Why would you not FADE Cliff Lee @ Home until

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  • JMUplayer
    SBR MVP
    • 08-27-09
    • 2765

    #1
    Why would you not FADE Cliff Lee @ Home until
    he proves he can pitch in arlington......
  • cappinthepigs
    SBR MVP
    • 10-07-09
    • 1864

    #2
    Never fade him, are you crazy?
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    • JR007
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-21-10
      • 5279

      #3
      He has a bad record in that heat in Arlington
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      • clonecat
        SBR MVP
        • 08-29-05
        • 1225

        #4
        He pitched well in Philly which is a hitters ballpark and will pitch well in Arlington.
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        • xyzky
          SBR MVP
          • 08-23-07
          • 1577

          #5
          Originally posted by JMUplayer
          he proves he can pitch in arlington......
          I have to agree with this statement.
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          • Flight
            Restricted User
            • 01-28-09
            • 1979

            #6
            LOL, He pitched 9 innings in both of his games in Arlington

            Sure his ERA is 4.0 in those two games, but his K/BB ratio looks good, and he's pitching just like he always has.

            I say the opposite, bet him until he loses!
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            • Flight
              Restricted User
              • 01-28-09
              • 1979

              #7
              Fans aren't happy with Cliff Lee unless he throws 2 shutouts per week.

              Unreal
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              • JMUplayer
                SBR MVP
                • 08-27-09
                • 2765

                #8
                Have you seen his overall record in arlington? not just this year.....
                Sometimes there are just places you dont play well.......If you were never a college level athlete or above you may not realize this is totally true.

                ERA in 8 games pitched there... 7.33
                OPS against there .814
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                • jcljack25
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-12-08
                  • 619

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JMUplayer
                  Have you seen his overall record in arlington? not just this year.....
                  Sometimes there are just places you dont play well.......If you were never a college level athlete or above you may not realize this is totally true.

                  ERA in 8 games pitched there... 7.33
                  OPS against there .814
                  You can not go by that at all, most of those games were pitching AGAINST Texas @ home. Texas has had a very good line up for years, most pitchers ERA will be bad there.
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                  • MUHerd37
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-23-09
                    • 12816

                    #10
                    Cliff Lee is probably the best pitcher in baseball. To say he just can't pitch in Arlington is bogus. All those previous games before his first in a Rangers uniform were road games. That factors in some.
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                    • Sawyer
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-01-09
                      • 7761

                      #11
                      Really liked Texas in this spot EXCEPT one thing..

                      This is first game for Rangers at home after a loooong road trip.
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                      • Rixsaw
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-23-08
                        • 4532

                        #12
                        1) Never fade C.Lee
                        2) Texas at home and LAA is on the road
                        3) Have you seen Texas's bat lately?
                        4) They are 1, 2 in their division. Texas ain't gonna give LAA an inch if they can help it.

                        Anything can happen, so good luck.
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                        • dodger33
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-14-09
                          • 3962

                          #13
                          Although I love weaver he is 1-3 with a 4.59 era lifetime in Rangers Ballpark. Maybe the over is the bet here folks.
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                          • make$take$
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 06-15-10
                            • 333

                            #14
                            I could see a no play, but why fade one of the best pitchers on one of the best teams so far this year at home? It's not like he is -250 or some sht
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                            • stakagrp
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 01-05-09
                              • 237

                              #15
                              You can make the same argument to fade Weaver because he loses against Texas. I will go with Lee on this game. He's loss the first 2 games as a Ranger and has plenty of rest and pitches well against the Angels. Hope I'm right here.
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                              • thebayareabeast
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-22-10
                                • 1475

                                #16
                                He will mow LA down today, thats why

                                LA's ass is grass and Lee is a lawnmower tonight
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                                • pinnerpsk
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-16-09
                                  • 1687

                                  #17
                                  Texas is due to come back to earth. Their normal 2nd half fade will kick off tonight
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                                  • Brock Landers
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 06-30-08
                                    • 45359

                                    #18
                                    Texas 0-2 in Lee's starts so far....including a -400 Fave LOL

                                    Fade his fukking ass when you can get Jerrod Weaver at +160
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      No

                                      Maybe under though
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                                      • make$take$
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 06-15-10
                                        • 333

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                        Texas 0-2 in Lee's starts so far....including a -400 Fave LOL Fade his fukking ass when you can get Jerrod Weaver at +160
                                        I didn't realize what a long undeniable trend Texas was on in his starts. 0-2 damn!...fade away
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                                        • make$take$
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 06-15-10
                                          • 333

                                          #21
                                          LAA would have to +200 to consider playing them tonight. I'm not on Texas but I see no value in fading them
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                                          • KKoz9
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-07-06
                                            • 1982

                                            #22
                                            Lee will roll tonight.

                                            Texas wins 4-1.
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                                            • keyboarding
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-30-09
                                              • 6817

                                              #23
                                              I got TEX tonight. Best of luck.
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                                              • Onefreedm1nd
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 06-15-10
                                                • 282

                                                #24
                                                Like Texas but Lee hasn't looked all that great since the trade
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                                                • jcljack25
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 12-12-08
                                                  • 619

                                                  #25
                                                  Its Texas or no play for me.
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                                                  • keyboarding
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-30-09
                                                    • 6817

                                                    #26
                                                    Big effort from Hamilton there.
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                                                    • 20Four7
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-08-07
                                                      • 6703

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by KKoz9
                                                      Lee will roll tonight.

                                                      Texas wins 4-1.
                                                      I hope so cuz it's 1 1 now..... I am ON lee
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                                                      • keyboarding
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-30-09
                                                        • 6817

                                                        #28
                                                        Insurance run could be key here.
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                                                        • keyboarding
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 07-30-09
                                                          • 6817

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by keyboarding
                                                          I got TEX tonight. Best of luck.
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                                                          • ehp6737
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-11-08
                                                            • 4185

                                                            #30
                                                            fade one of the top 3 pitchers in the game? this whole premise wasnt supported by anything and it showed (again) last night
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