Fade ESPN TV Winner --- Fade is Strong

fishmonger · 07-18-10, 11:01 PM

how about the home team on sunday night? They have been like 12-2!! I thought to myself no way cubs win today. So I took the Phils.

WeinketoWarrick · 07-18-10, 11:02 PM

big balls to take wandy on the road...

dynamite140 · 07-18-10, 11:02 PM

Where do you find these picks?

Foggy · 07-18-10, 11:20 PM

Yea I've been all over the ESPN Sunday night home team this year. Interesting, never checked out what they do the following night. Another good one for this game: Winds blowing out 10+ Wrigley is always over(11-0) like tonight, the following game if winds are blowing in it's always under, and winds will be blowing in tomo night.

No coincidences · 07-19-10, 01:11 AM

It'll be put to the test with road Wandy against red-hot Cub bats.

HOT WINGS · 07-19-10, 06:35 AM

Already locked it in for a smaller play. Good luck

2daBank · 07-19-10, 06:52 AM

houli have you been tracking what the sunday night loser does the next game? seems like i remember something about fade the winner, play on the loser, but wasnt sure how it was working for baseball.....

mandude · 07-19-10, 08:28 AM

Ok guys I went back and tracked what the winner/loser on Sun night did their next game.
As you all know home team on Sun night is 12-3.
The winner on Sun night is 7-8 intheir next game.
The loser on Sun night is 8-7 in their next game.
The home team on Sun night is 6-9 in their next game.
The away team on Sun night is 9-6 in their next game.

mandude · 07-19-10, 08:32 AM

I don't think it's an automatic fade on the winner/loser of the Sun night game based on those records. Pretty much a coin flip. The home/away next game after Sun night might be something to go on. We'll have to watch how that develops down the road. It's hitting a 60% clip but it's not a strong fade in my opinion. The only automatic bet is the home team on Sun night as of now.

superman613 · 07-19-10, 08:34 AM

like the Stros also!

2daBank · 07-19-10, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by mandude

I don't think it's an automatic fade on the winner/loser of the Sun night game based on those records. Pretty much a coin flip. The home/away next game after Sun night might be something to go on. We'll have to watch how that develops down the road. It's hitting a 60% clip but it's not a strong fade in my opinion. The only automatic bet is the home team on Sun night as of now.

good work, yea i had no idea in baseball, the 1st i heard of this was from dexter i believe last NFL season...then houli has mentioned the fade after a win a few times with baseball, but yea to me the only one worth a auto play is home team on the actually sunday night game (and i doubt i can even just do that blindly)....

HoulihansTX · 07-19-10, 08:53 AM

Nice job tracking.

The fade is meant to identify overvalued favs. Cubs -170 is overvalued.

2daBank · 07-19-10, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Nice job tracking.

The fade is meant to identify overvalued favs. Cubs -170 is overvalued.

no doubt....shit crazy that ppl would bet them at that number....

FCMedina · 07-19-10, 09:13 AM

Agreed....couldn't bet Cubs at that price against anyone. I'll take a small shot on the Stros.

WvGambler · 07-19-10, 09:53 AM

I'm considering stros based strictly on Cub inconsistencies.

capper123 · 07-19-10, 09:57 AM

this man was right. mayby we should all start listening to him now!

Duby · 07-19-10, 10:02 AM

I hate the Cubs!

mandude · 07-19-10, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Nice job tracking.

The fade is meant to identify overvalued favs. Cubs -170 is overvalued.

I agree with you on this one Houli. Everybody is seeing the Scrubs take 3 of 4 from Philly & now playing the lowly Astros with probably their best pitcher. I do think the Cubs should be favored but not this high. -170 is insane & poor betting if you take them at that price. I'm not sure what I'm doing with this game yet but I know I wont be taking the Cubs.

mandude · 07-19-10, 12:28 PM

Hey 2dabank whats your take on the Philly/Cards game tonight? I havent dug into it yet but I'm tempted to take Philly because everybody is probably riding the hot Cards against the struggling Phillies. Like I said I havent dug into the pitching matchups yet. Just leaning that way.

2daBank · 07-19-10, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by mandude

Hey 2dabank whats your take on the Philly/Cards game tonight? I havent dug into it yet but I'm tempted to take Philly because everybody is probably riding the hot Cards against the struggling Phillies. Like I said I havent dug into the pitching matchups yet. Just leaning that way.

i wouldnt put 10 cents on philly right now...

HoulihansTX · 07-19-10, 01:29 PM

Philly can't hit. If you can hit you don't win. Hawksworth is not bad, and Kyle Kendrick is average.

2daBank · 07-19-10, 01:36 PM

i feel pretty confident i can get a win out of stl this series (im not a chaser but will decide this from time to time on a series) and starting with a pretty low price tonight i may get my win early and be talking about how im going for 2 wins in this series......

HoulihansTX · 07-19-10, 01:44 PM

That game screams Over. Hawk will probably be in for 5 inn, then a lot of bullpen till the finish.

lyon804 · 07-19-10, 01:45 PM

Sup Houli! How's that lifestyle treating you in Vegas?

HoulihansTX · 07-19-10, 01:48 PM

Pimpin' aint easy when you are Houli! LOL

lyon804 · 07-19-10, 01:50 PM

Perhaps when I come out to Vegas I can hit you up when you aint' pimpin.. Not sure the wife would accept my pimpin

HoulihansTX · 07-19-10, 01:55 PM

What happens in Vegas Stays...

Its Summertime and I doing the Summer school thing and laying low. Betting much more than I expected.

How's your business?

2daBank · 07-19-10, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

Perhaps when I come out to Vegas I can hit you up when you aint' pimpin.. Not sure the wife would accept my pimpin

hey, what happens in vegas.....never mind i forgot oj screwed that all up.....

lyon804 · 07-19-10, 02:09 PM

Doin well Houli! I am growing. I am in the insurance business and get renewals so I get a raise every year. It is tuff to get started but I would reccomend it to anybody that has the staying power to stick it out. I am on my third year now and the future is brighter but I am far from wealth at this point. Most people that are in it 10 yrs + live a very nice life. That's what I am banking on.

How about you? What are you going to go into once out of school? Are you going to stay in Vegas? Hopefully!!LOL

floridagolfer · 07-19-10, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

i feel pretty confident i can get a win out of stl this series (im not a chaser but will decide this from time to time on a series) and starting with a pretty low price tonight i may get my win early and be talking about how im going for 2 wins in this series......

Philly was quite fortunate to win the one game in Chicago it did manage to steal. If you're going to chase anyone in this series, St. Louis has to be the one.

HoulihansTX · 07-19-10, 02:24 PM

I will never leave. I like this place too much$ I'm a low key kind of guy, and do a lot of hanging out when I'm not in school. My fav place to chill is the sportsbook, and TX doesn't have the.. LOL

I have one more semester at UNLV, and I have an intership at the Wynn in their Audit department. They just are teaching interns how to manage databases. Sounds easy, but you have to be knowledgeable in programming. I'm doing well.

$Burm$ · 07-19-10, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by mandude

Ok guys I went back and tracked what the winner/loser on Sun night did their next game.
As you all know home team on Sun night is 12-3.
The winner on Sun night is 7-8 intheir next game.
The loser on Sun night is 8-7 in their next game.
The home team on Sun night is 6-9 in their next game.
The away team on Sun night is 9-6 in their next game.

hey mandude..i was curious on the records of the home/away or winning/losing team on if they travel or not..such as since the cubs played at home last night and won and now there at home again as to opposed going on the road to travel..i wonder if this would bring on a fade or play system

lyon804 · 07-19-10, 02:55 PM

I here you Houli.. Why leave? I certanly never would had I been in your shoes. It's a good thing what you have and I would hold on to it. Congrats on your upcoming graduation at UNLV. It would be nice if you could get on with Wynn or another Hotel once you complete your program.

Just curious.. How did you choose UNLV while you were living in TX? Did you get a scholarship or something or was just wanting to live the lifestyle?

Peregrine Stoop · 07-19-10, 02:56 PM

should fade losers as well (moreso fade the team leaving town)
with the stricter testing for uppers, baseball teams are having a tougher time making the turn around from a night game to the next day if the opponent has more rest