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  • Dukebluejms
    SBR MVP
    • 10-21-09
    • 1633

    #1
    Giants -1.5 has great value
    I know the Giants have been playing poorly and that Wellenmeyer has been awful, but I think this is the best VALUE on the board. I stress value because I am not saying it is my strongest play in terms of my confidence, but the best bet for your money. I always enjoy betting west coast teams at home against east coast teams, which is why this one struck my eye to begin with. Now I know this isn't the same Nats team as last year or in years past, but it is tough to fly cross country and play well.

    The first area I looked into were each teams past successes/failures in similar situations as in tonight’s game. The Giants have had a lot of success against the NL East when playing at home. The Giants are 27-13 in these situations since 2008, but if you exclude their games against the Mets they are 23-8. Since 2006, the Nats are just 17-46 when playing an NL West team on the road. Furthermore, since 2009, the Giants are 26-7 in game ones of a home series, while the Nats are just 10-23 in game ones of road series.

    Next, I looked at the pitching matchup. If you just look at the season statistics, it looks like the Nats have the major advantage. But if you look more closely at past stats, you will see that the Giants have the advantage. Livan Hernandez has been great this year, but in his last 4 starts vs. the Giants he has allowed 4+ runs in every start. Most of Hernandez's success is due to his unorthodox finesse style. But this style favors the Giants. Baseball-reference.com keeps an abundance of stats, one of which is a teams offensive success agianst certain pitching styles. Against finesse pitchers, the Giants are batting .282, with 73 runs scored and 14 HR's. This is very significant if you compare it to their stats agianst power pitchers where they bat .193, with 25 runs and 9 HR's. Also, the Giants current roster has had great success against Hernandez in their career. The team totals vs. Hernandez is a .387 batting avg (41 for 106) with 8 HR's.

    Wellenmeyer, on the other hand, has been bad, but he has had success against the Nats in the past. In 2 career starts, Wellenmeyer is 2-0 with only 2 earned runs allowed. Another positive for this matchup is the fact that the Giants are playing at home. In his 3 home starts this season, Wellenmeyer has a 3.48 ERA. This may not be great, but comparing it to his overall ERA it is very good. Furthermore, no one on the Nats roster has faced Wellenmeyer very much. As a team, the Nats roster has posted a mere .200 batting average (9 for 45) with 2 HR's.
    My play is based on the fact that I expect the Giants to score on the Nats with ease tonight and I do not expect the Nats to be able to keep up. The Nats team batting average is 45 points lower on the road, and that gap is higher when facing a right handed pithcher. I'm not telling anyone to tail, but it's definitely worth a shot for me. My play SFG -1.5 (+185).

    Other trends that favor this pick are:
    ·Nationals are 1-4 in Hernandezs last 5 road starts vs. a team with a winning record.
    ·Nationals are 0-5 in Hernandezs last 5 starts vs. National League West.
    ·Giants are 5-1 in their last 6 home games vs. a team with a losing road record.
    ·Giants are 6-2 in their last 8 games following an off day.
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63167

    #2
    on it for a lot of the same reasons.... seeing tons of people on the nats tonight, so that makes me feel confident...

    nice write up

    and good luck
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    • gryfyn1
      SBR MVP
      • 03-30-10
      • 3285

      #3
      agree'd though i balk slightly at taking SF a -1.5; But Livan is living on borrowed time - his 4 wins and 1.62 ERA are flukes - represented by his 5.04 Fip and 5.17xFiP
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      • awholelottalumps
        SBR MVP
        • 12-14-07
        • 1049

        #4
        Livan is on borrowed time as he'll start pitching like his terrible sekf once again,as I see him being a fade pitcher after the All Star break.
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        • tatddy
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-02-10
          • 10779

          #5
          For what it's worth, the weather is pretty miserable here today. I'm staring at the park right now covered in rain and the forecast isn't so forgiving. It's supposed to relent a bit around game time but still light showers and back to the heavy stuff around 9 or 10. So a delay is possible as well.
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          • iifold
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-25-10
            • 11111

            #6
            Bad weather in the bay, may be delayed, I'll call my sources
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            • mlb
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-04-09
              • 10509

              #7
              Originally posted by tatddy
              For what it's worth, the weather is pretty miserable here today. I'm staring at the park right now covered in rain and the forecast isn't so forgiving. It's supposed to relent a bit around game time but still light showers and back to the heavy stuff around 9 or 10. So a delay is possible as well.
              Originally posted by iifold
              Bad weather in the bay, may be delayed, I'll call my sources
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              • giants06
                SBR High Roller
                • 03-25-10
                • 142

                #8
                Like this. It's time for Giants to finally win one game.
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                • SportsAddict
                  Restricted User
                  • 05-18-10
                  • 250

                  #9
                  nice write up
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63167

                    #10
                    I don't wanna hear about delays
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                    • Smogs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-31-08
                      • 4173

                      #11
                      Would either team benefit from the poor weather? I love the Giants in this spot, and especially with the public on Washington.
                      Hernandez is getting too much love from Joe
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                      • pats3peat
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-23-05
                        • 1163

                        #12
                        good info i like that the teams batting .387 against that brother
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #13
                          I agree in theory, but it's hard to take this anemic Giants offense on the RL against anyone.
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                          • WeinketoWarrick
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-30-09
                            • 1698

                            #14
                            on the giants, but don't think i can bet them on the runline with that offense...
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                            • Crayzee
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-27-06
                              • 4945

                              #15
                              good luk wit dat
                              i'll take da nats
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                              • nickluva
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 04-05-10
                                • 322

                                #16
                                Nats will win. Wellemeyer will get rocked tonight
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                                • French Tickler
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-25-10
                                  • 817

                                  #17
                                  Ill give it a go for $50
                                  Men get fifty dollars for a sperm donation. I've got a towel at home thats worth $250,000. It's leaning up against the wall in my bedroom
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                                  • darrell74
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-16-07
                                    • 14648

                                    #18
                                    Frisco has scored 1 or less in 5 of the last 7.
                                    Hitting has slumped in the last series vs. Oakland.

                                    Nats pitchers are fighting for their jobs (Strausberg is on the way).
                                    Nats are the better value.

                                    Frisco tt under is the better value.
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                                    • keyboarding
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-30-09
                                      • 6817

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                      I agree in theory, but it's hard to take this anemic Giants offense on the RL against anyone.
                                      For sure. Or with that bullpen and their tendency to give up leads.
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                                      • Cuse0323
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 30169

                                        #20
                                        It's hard to back Wellenmeyer and that offense but I like it. GL
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                                        • Chi_archie
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-22-08
                                          • 63167

                                          #21
                                          c'mon
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                                          • Afrot69
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 06-23-09
                                            • 231

                                            #22
                                            giants are holding up well
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                                            • Dukebluejms
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-21-09
                                              • 1633

                                              #23
                                              Looking good now, but I have had terrible luck as of late. Hope they can hold on.
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                                              • WeinketoWarrick
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-30-09
                                                • 1698

                                                #24
                                                let's see how the bullpen holds up...would be a good call if they hang on...
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                                                • Chi_archie
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-22-08
                                                  • 63167

                                                  #25
                                                  in a jam now
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                                                  • Shortstop
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 01-02-09
                                                    • 27281

                                                    #26
                                                    Nice write up!
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                                                    • Shortstop
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 01-02-09
                                                      • 27281

                                                      #27
                                                      You could definitely use some insurance here...
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                                                      • SKiLLsSoLoN
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 07-22-09
                                                        • 905

                                                        #28
                                                        I was really thinking about taking the Nats too!
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                                                        • STAY STRONG
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 2498

                                                          #29
                                                          good chance to pick up some runs here
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                                                          • Shortstop
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 01-02-09
                                                            • 27281

                                                            #30
                                                            San Fran missed a golden opportunity right there. I hope that doesn't come back to haunt...
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                                                            • Chi_archie
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-22-08
                                                              • 63167

                                                              #31
                                                              suck
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                                                              • netinfo
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-12-09
                                                                • 955

                                                                #32
                                                                Oh man, it was definitely a good chance there at the bottom of the 7th for some insurance runs, but oh well. I hope they hang onto the two run lead!

                                                                netinfo
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                                                                • HenPrivilege
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-10-09
                                                                  • 1720

                                                                  #33
                                                                  We're going to see Brian Wilson in the 9th fellas. This will be a roller coaster.
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                                                                  • netinfo
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 02-12-09
                                                                    • 955

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Nice easy top of the eighth.

                                                                    netinfo
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                                                                    • netinfo
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-12-09
                                                                      • 955

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Hoping for an easy ninth!

                                                                      netinfo
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