Screw the Pirates!

MexicanStallion · 07-30-09, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Sons of bitches, trading within the division to help the Cubs again! All this time I thought Chicago's Triple-A club was in Iowa, and it turns out to be in Pittsburgh.

I feel awfully bad for the good folks of Pittsburgh and the oldtime Pirates fans. But jesus h. christ, this franchise needs to be dissolved and anyone who has been involved in ownership or the front office the past 10-12 years should never be allowed to screw up a team again. Ever.

Hmmm... I was thinking Boston's Triple-A club was Pawtucket, but also seems to be out in Pittsburgh

brandon m · 07-30-09, 06:45 PM

Yeah I don't understand that at all how do you trade players, decent players to a rival division team. It just makes no sense its almost like they don't want to win.

Willie Bee · 07-30-09, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by MexicanStallion

Hmmm... I was thinking Boston's Triple-A club was Pawtucket, but also seems to be out in Pittsburgh

A dual AAA team, interesting and I concur. What came to mind for me as an Astros fan was when Pittsburgh dealt Lofton and Aramis Ramirez to Chicago in '03, and the way the schedule worked out was Houston ended up facing those two players in about 20-21 games instead of 15-16 if they were with one NL Central club the whole year. The Bucs got Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez out of the deal. It would be one thing if Pittsburgh actually ever fcuking built around a player they get in one of these deals, but as it is the whole thing has simply become the Pirates serving as a staging point to help the bigger clubs for a playoff run.

G's pks · 07-30-09, 07:45 PM

Willie does it matter...houston could never beat the Cubs anyways.. 24 runs last two days by Cubs...

RICHIE801 · 07-31-09, 03:32 AM

You should try bein a fan a the Pirates

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Then when the Cubbies dont go to the world series I gotta hear all those uptight crybabys? Gimme a break.

wangichu · 07-31-09, 04:17 AM

I was talking to my friend about this the other day. The pirates have had some talent roll through their organization, but they never get anything legitimate in return. The brian giles trade seems to be the only time i can remember them making a trade that even helped their team. Poor players. At least they all find a ticket out of town soon enough.

Beastxxx · 07-31-09, 09:06 AM

I have always said this dating back ten years ago that the pirates are the farm team for mlb.

MexicanStallion · 07-31-09, 09:13 AM

The Pirates need to push hard to trade Duke. Then in a couple years they will be able to trade Andrew McCutchen and Garrett Jones.

element1286 · 07-31-09, 11:47 AM

Gotta tear it down before you build it back up. Go look at any knowledgeable baseball outlet, Baseball Prospectus, Keith Law, Fangraphs, John Sickels, etc, and they will all say the Pirates are doing the right thing. The Franchise had no minor league talent, and no major league talent, that was the real embarassment, Hunington is trying to clear up Littlefields's mess. There is nothing wrong with that.

The Pirates are doing what your Astros should be doing, Willie.

BamaBill67 · 07-31-09, 12:16 PM

Ok, funny stuff today here

, but don't we or shouldn't we take the Pirates today against the Nationals????? Pit +107

element1286 · 07-31-09, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by BamaBill67

Ok, funny stuff today here

, but don't we or shouldn't we take the Pirates today against the Nationals????? Pit +107

Yes, value on the Pirates.

Flight · 07-31-09, 01:03 PM

The Pirates and the Indians as well - really grinds my gears.

yisman · 07-31-09, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Gotta tear it down before you build it back up.

Except they've been tearing it down for 15 years and they've never built a damn thing. It's the same old cycle. You think the Pirates will be contenders in 2 or 3 years? I'd bet against it. They'll be doing the same thing: trading away any major leaguers they have for pennies on the dollar.

Originally posted by element1286

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Originally Posted by BamaBill67
Ok, funny stuff today here

, but don't we or shouldn't we take the Pirates today against the Nationals????? Pit +107

Yes, value on the Pirates.

No, no value on the Pirates. Nationals have the better starter and the better team.

specialedbob · 07-31-09, 02:32 PM

well i think the pirates,should win.

popadopoulos · 07-31-09, 02:34 PM

the nationals have a better hitting team and better pitcher starting tonight

Nats -115 !

GL

element1286 · 07-31-09, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Except they've been tearing it down for 15 years and they've never built a damn thing. It's the same old cycle. You think the Pirates will be contenders in 2 or 3 years? I'd bet against it. They'll be doing the same thing: trading away any major leaguers they have for pennies on the dollar.

No, no value on the Pirates. Nationals have the better starter and the better team.

They really haven't.