2014 MLB thread with friends

**t-bone** · 05-24-14, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Porcello is definitely pitching above his head, but he's also been a perennial underachiever, so the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I'm sure a regression is coming, and I agree that it's insane he's favored like that. He was actually a higher-rated prospect than Verlander coming up and he's still only 25. Typical sinkerball pitcher who took a while to get things figured out. -180/-190 is crazy, though.

Yeah, the price on Texas looks like an auto play for at least a small amount.

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 09:32 AM

CLE -115 (2.3U to win 2)
NYY -105 (1.05U to win 1)
TOR +103 (1U to win 1.03)
TEX +165 (1U to win 1.65)

**t-bone** · 05-24-14, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

CLE -115 (2.3U to win 2)
NYY -105 (1.05U to win 1)
TOR +103 (1U to win 1.03)

Good luck buddy!

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by t-bone

Good luck buddy!

Thanks. You too. Added TEX for a unit. Working on the night side of the card now.

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 09:36 AM

Tribe just went back to -105. Shit. Had a feeling I was locking in the worst possible number there.

**Tommy Karate** · 05-24-14, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by t-bone

I need someone to talk me out of Texas today. Porcello's numbers are a fvckin joke.

what do you expect his #'s should be?
by seasons end he'll likely have an ERA of 3.20/3.30 and a WHIP around 1.10
he's a 4 pitch pitcher, on a great team and finally has a good defense behind him (GB pitcher)

not sure why people keep thinking this huge correction is coming. he would be a 2/3 on most other teams.
hes a 5 on detroit b/c they have the best staff in baseball.

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Tommy Karate

what do you expect his #'s should be?
by seasons end he'll likely have an ERA of 3.20/3.30 and a WHIP around 1.10
he's a 4 pitch pitcher, on a great team and finally has a good defense behind him (GB pitcher)

not sure why people keep thinking this huge correction is coming. he would be a 2/3 on most other teams.
hes a 5 on detroit b/c they have the best staff in baseball.

Because he has 7 wins in 8 starts and is suddenly being favored by -180/-190 against Texas. He's not going to win 25 games.

**t-bone** · 05-24-14, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Tommy Karate

what do you expect his #'s should be?
by seasons end he'll likely have an ERA of 3.20/3.30 and a WHIP around 1.10
he's a 4 pitch pitcher, on a great team and finally has a good defense behind him (GB pitcher)

not sure why people keep thinking this huge correction is coming. he would be a 2/3 on most other teams.
hes a 5 on detroit b/c they have the best staff in baseball.

He's been in the league 6 years with an era over 4.40. Add in the fact that he doesn't miss bats. The real rick porcello will come back to earth sooner than later.

Texas ML +165

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by t-bone

He's been in the league 6 years with an era over 4.40. Add in the fact that he doesn't miss bats. The real rick porcello will come back to earth sooner than later.

Texas ML +165

As a sinkerballer, you're always walking a thin line.

The infield D is as good as it's been behind him in Detroit this season, though. He's definitely benefited from that.

**Tommy Karate** · 05-24-14, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Because he has 7 wins in 8 starts and is suddenly being favored by -180/-190 against Texas. He's not going to win 25 games.

not the same texas team you and the public are thinking of.
they are a sub 500 team, poor bullpen, and a lot of departures that arent being offset by new faces...

plus they still have washington managing them.
this is why detroit is favored by 180, more then porcellos win/loss record.

**leetreaper** · 05-24-14, 10:02 AM

don't like texas at all

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Tommy Karate

not the same texas team you and the public are thinking of.
they are a sub 500 team, poor bullpen, and a lot of departures that arent being offset by new faces...

plus they still have washington managing them.
this is why detroit is favored by 180, more then porcellos win/loss record.

Texas isn't good. Agree. But they also aren't +165 against Porcello bad.

I have them +140 here.

**Tommy Karate** · 05-24-14, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by t-bone

He's been in the league 6 years with an era over 4.40. Add in the fact that he doesn't miss bats. The real rick porcello will come back to earth sooner than later.

Texas ML +165

he doesnt miss bats because he is a ground ball pitcher..
he was a top pitching prospect and not the 4.40 era type guy you are thinking of.
go look at his BABIP for prior years (when they had a horrible defense)...getting kinsler and moving cabrera off 3B is HUGE for him..

porcello is the classic scenario of a young prospect learning on the job. you do realize hes still just 26?
he was a full time major league pitcher at 21 after spending 1 year in A ball..
not all prospects do what a strasburg/kershaw did..

**JamesBrown** · 05-24-14, 10:10 AM

Cleveland looks good for the early game. BOL today NC

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 10:11 AM

Anyone know anything about this cat pitching for Philly today?

**Tommy Karate** · 05-24-14, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Texas isn't good. Agree. But they also aren't +165 against Porcello bad.

I have them +140 here.

im also not willing to lay that much in this spot..
youre going to be happily surprised with him come Sept/October..

a correction will of course come - but nothing like what T-Bone is anticipating...

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by JamesBrown

Cleveland looks good for the early game. BOL today NC

Hey JB! Where you been pal? Don't be a stranger.

I'm adding a unit to Tribe -105 and Rangers TT over 3.5 (-110).

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Tommy Karate

im also not willing to lay that much in this spot..
youre going to be happily surprised with him come Sept/October..

a correction will of course come - but nothing like what T-Bone is anticipating...

I hope you're right, though unless they address the issues in that bullpen, I have a feeling it's going to be another lost postseason.

**Tommy Karate** · 05-24-14, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Anyone know anything about this cat pitching for Philly today?

all i found...

"Phillies righty David Buchanan. It will be his major league debut. Perhaps you have not heard of Buchanan. Perhaps you are a Phillies fan and still haven’t heard of Buchanan. This is because he profiles as an organizational soldier rather than a major league asset."

**Tommy Karate** · 05-24-14, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I hope you're right, though unless they address the issues in that bullpen, I have a feeling it's going to be another lost postseason.

their bullpen whip is very good.
the era should get better...

**echun32** · 05-24-14, 10:27 AM

3 units on tribe?

**No coincidences** · 05-24-14, 11:35 AM

CLE FF -108 (2.16U to win 2)

**2daBank** · 05-24-14, 11:37 AM

Well got good number on tribe at least, also played ov 9 in toronto

**IllyPhilly[DOC]** · 05-24-14, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Anyone know anything about this cat pitching for Philly today?

Buchanan is 5-1 with a 3.98 era in AAA starts. He is filling in for Cliff Lee and today's start is right on point for Buchanan's rotation too.

**You mad bro** · 05-24-14, 11:54 AM

RA DICKEY!

boom

**2daBank** · 05-24-14, 11:58 AM

This ump squeezing kluber

**leetreaper** · 05-24-14, 12:03 PM

jays baby, gl nc!

**You mad bro** · 05-24-14, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by leetreaper

jays baby, gl nc!

with you on jays

first baseball play in over a week

**2daBank** · 05-24-14, 12:09 PM

Jimenez all over the place throwing ton of pitches, we just need a hit now..

**2daBank** · 05-24-14, 12:11 PM

Ive been all over the place w the stl gm and admittedly dont have a good read but for whatever, talked myself into the over 7, lol..

**leetreaper** · 05-24-14, 12:11 PM

jimenez 3 walks through 1 and 2/3 lol...

**You mad bro** · 05-24-14, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by leetreaper

jimenez 3 walks through 1 and 2/3 lol...

timmy had 6 walks in 6 innings last night

only half of his pitches thrown were stirkes

(btw he threw 112 pitches)

**2daBank** · 05-24-14, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by leetreaper

jimenez 3 walks through 1 and 2/3 lol...

Already over 50 pitches and I thought punk ump bailed him out on couple called strikes, same ump squeezing kluber! Prick..

**leetreaper** · 05-24-14, 12:18 PM

kluber is straight up dealing...

**2daBank** · 05-24-14, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by leetreaper

kluber is straight up dealing...

Only a matter of time till tribe hang a crooked number on ubaldo the way he throwin, maybe just nobody swing!