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  • buddha
    SBR Sharp
    • 09-03-10
    • 480

    #771
    Originally posted by vegasreaper
    Very good analogy Buddha makes alot of sense and takes a whole another thing to add to handicapping something that I often overlook. The human psyche and the whole mental attitude of the players themselves. However I haven't look into this as a whole but this year at least it doesn't hold true only 15 out of 45 games have seen the underdog the victor
    That 33 % yes on the surface unimpressive but improves when one "chooses their spots, of course" combines the perception of saturdays with their other handicapping conclusions.

    How many LARGE Dogs (+185 or greater) were found amongst those 15 out of 45? Especially after one had concluded based on their other handicapping that this Large Dog held Value?

    Just Food for Thought really, all of this....it has been "my take" over many years of MLB betting. I have cashed many more LARGE Dogs on Saturday than any other day.

    When this take on saturdays in MLB was used as a filter to apply to leans born from normal handicapping process.

    Saturday Overs/Large Dog success....in part, at least, may be due to my own betting behavior/perception.

    If nothing else the "psychological" had to be considered where regards Hot or Cold Streaks of Teams....loss of a key player that might affect teams psyche....

    Psychology may explain why Baseball is such a Streaky game, teams go on Winning or Losing streaks, Low or High Scoring Streaks etc.


    On Saturday also though.....there are more kids in the crowd so possibly this motivates players to do better (more excitement/enthusiasm from the crowd)....possibly there is a better overall "vibe" in the stadium bcuz the crowd is more fun than on weekdays or Sundays?
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    • vegasreaper
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-27-11
      • 5656

      #772
      Originally posted by buddha
      That 33 % yes on the surface unimpressive but improves when one "chooses their spots, of course" combines the perception of saturdays with their other handicapping conclusions.

      How many LARGE Dogs (+185 or greater) were found amongst those 15 out of 45? Especially after one had concluded based on their other handicapping that this Large Dog held Value?

      Just Food for Thought really, all of this....it has been "my take" over many years of MLB betting. I have cashed many more LARGE Dogs on Saturday than any other day.

      When this take on saturdays in MLB was used as a filter to apply to leans born from normal handicapping process.

      Saturday Overs/Large Dog success....in part, at least, may be due to my own betting behavior/perception.

      If nothing else the "psychological" had to be considered where regards Hot or Cold Streaks of Teams....loss of a key player that might affect teams psyche....

      Psychology may explain why Baseball is such a Streaky game, teams go on Winning or Losing streaks, Low or High Scoring Streaks etc.


      On Saturday also though.....there are more kids in the crowd so possibly this motivates players to do better (more excitement/enthusiasm from the crowd)....possibly there is a better overall "vibe" in the stadium bcuz the crowd is more fun than on weekdays or Sundays?
      Really appreciate your input Buddha, I will definitely add it to my arsenal makes alot of sense. So many things to analyze and handicap when it comes to baseball thats why so many people just don't bother with it. Stats stats and more stats, personality traits, first game back after long road trip having to hear the wives, friends etc want tickets and what not. I personally though think that it is the best to make money at with alot of hard work and shoot for those that want to do totals, overs and unders you can through in the umpire rotations
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      • vegasreaper
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-27-11
        • 5656

        #773
        Late add 977 BOSTON-100
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        • vegasreaper
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-27-11
          • 5656

          #774
          Well we got 2.95 back from yesterday to bring us back up to 27.30
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          • buddha
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-03-10
            • 480

            #775
            Originally posted by vegasreaper
            Really appreciate your input Buddha, I will definitely add it to my arsenal makes alot of sense. So many things to analyze and handicap when it comes to baseball thats why so many people just don't bother with it. Stats stats and more stats, personality traits, first game back after long road trip having to hear the wives, friends etc want tickets and what not. I personally though think that it is the best to make money at with alot of hard work and shoot for those that want to do totals, overs and unders you can through in the umpire rotations
            So Much....as you mention.

            I probably rely, focus on the psychological aspects too much really....wish I was more like cappers like yourself who have the special patience to delve deeply into the numbers.

            Appropriate that with all that you mention above ^^^^ that your final Two Words = "umpire rotations".

            Tiny % of cappers go that deep, those that do have better win %.

            Thats why I don't worry if you have down days or even cold streaks...bcuz you do the work, those that do the work and do that to the level that you do, I believe they have better overall results.

            I grasp that your mention of Umpires was for guys who bet O/Us, not your focus but mentioning them just indicates you know what to use for what.

            Thanks again for the thread and your generosity in sharing here, in past NCAAFootball/NFL....we have even messed with some Horses on occasion lol, Kentucky Derby and the like. You're among the most Solid Guys on here.
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            • vegasreaper
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-27-11
              • 5656

              #776
              Originally posted by buddha
              So Much....as you mention.

              I probably rely, focus on the psychological aspects too much really....wish I was more like cappers like yourself who have the special patience to delve deeply into the numbers.

              Appropriate that with all that you mention above ^^^^ that your final Two Words = "umpire rotations".

              Tiny % of cappers go that deep, those that do have better win %.

              Thats why I don't worry if you have down days or even cold streaks...bcuz you do the work, those that do the work and do that to the level that you do, I believe they have better overall results.

              I grasp that your mention of Umpires was for guys who bet O/Us, not your focus but mentioning them just indicates you know what to use for what.

              Thanks again for the thread and your generosity in sharing here, in past NCAAFootball/NFL....we have even messed with some Horses on occasion lol, Kentucky Derby and the like. You're among the most Solid Guys on here.
              Thanks my friend for all the kind words. I really do try to do this with my best effort and help those that struggle make some cash. This is why when things struggle and the naysayers and trashtalkers in here start stepping in I always take it personal. Thats why so many people here I talk with tell me why do you even bother with the forums you get the grief and insults from people who don't really understand the longevity of this endeavor all things will go through their phases but through money management we expect to have more good days than bad and at the end we come out a little ahead and as our bankroll grows so do our wagers. Well anyways thanks again for the compliments I appreciate it and I shall continue the hard work it takes for us to hopefully succeed
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              • vegasreaper
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 04-27-11
                • 5656

                #777
                Glad we could finish the week off on a positive note. Now let's start the new one off on a positive. Here we go!!!

                906-ARI-125
                907-MIA+130
                910-SFG-190
                914-DET-160
                919-CLE-145
                921-KCR+115
                924-SEA-145

                AS ALWAYS GOOD LUCK TO US ALL
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                • vegasreaper
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-27-11
                  • 5656

                  #778
                  Going to add two more plays to todays games. Would have been three games but line has completely flipped in the NYY/TEX game was NYY-140 which would have been a play but now TEX favored -110 so we'll pass

                  912-TOR-175
                  916-TBR-135

                  AS ALWAYS GOOD LUCK TO US ALL
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                  • iloseagain
                    Restricted User
                    • 06-29-10
                    • 10681

                    #779
                    GL today reaper
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                    • Coolice
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 03-08-16
                      • 238

                      #780
                      Thanks Vegas, keep up the good work,...very much appreciated. Luke.
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                      • vegasreaper
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-27-11
                        • 5656

                        #781
                        Well glad to say we start the week off with another nice profitable day of +2.10 which brings us to +29.40 so far. Here we go with tomorrows,well actually think I will put off and do in the morning as there is some serious chalk and not sure if I care to lay 300 on anybody, even my boy Kershawwould be risking 17.50 units to make 11.00
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                        • vegasreaper
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-27-11
                          • 5656

                          #782
                          Results from Monday 4-25

                          906-ARI-125
                          907-MIA+130
                          910-SFG-190

                          914-DET-160
                          919-CLE-145
                          921-KCR+115

                          924-SEA-145
                          912-TOR-175
                          916-TBR-135
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                          • vegasreaper
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-27-11
                            • 5656

                            #783
                            Well I will go ahead and put the less chalky ones so all can take advantage of reduced lines

                            952-WAS-195
                            954-NYM-160
                            956-CHC-200
                            957-PIT-130
                            962-LAD-1.5-125
                            965-CWS-125
                            967-OAK-115
                            972-TEX+120
                            974-MIN-115
                            977-HOU-125
                            979-BOS-170

                            AS ALWAYS GOOD LUCK TO US ALL
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                            • Puffdog
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 04-09-16
                              • 109

                              #784
                              906-ARI-125
                              907-MIA+130
                              910-SFG-190

                              914-DET-160
                              919-CLE-145
                              921-KCR+115

                              924-SEA-145
                              912-TOR-175
                              916-TBR-135[/QUOTE]


                              Great job VR another soild day!
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                              • Coolice
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 03-08-16
                                • 238

                                #785
                                Good morning VegasR. David Letterman always had his top 10 list,.. May I respectfully ask what your TOP 3 picks would be from today's list,...excluding Kershaw/Dodgers which is an obvious favorite,.. Thanks as always and continued success my friend. Luke
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                                • vegasreaper
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-27-11
                                  • 5656

                                  #786
                                  Originally posted by coolice
                                  good morning vegasr. David letterman always had his top 10 list,.. May i respectfully ask what your top 3 picks would be from today's list,...excluding kershaw/dodgers which is an obvious favorite,.. Thanks as always and continued success my friend. Luke
                                  GOOD MORNING EVERYONE

                                  oakland
                                  cws
                                  was
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                                  • Coolice
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-08-16
                                    • 238

                                    #787
                                    Thanks for the reply,... I have simply been spreading myself too thin, betting 4 or 5 games,.. That's why I asked V.R. ... Yesterday I was on Cleveland, K.C. and Toronto.
                                    As many have said in the past, "If it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all." Appreciate your help, take care. Luke.
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                                    • vegasreaper
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-27-11
                                      • 5656

                                      #788
                                      Originally posted by Coolice
                                      Thanks for the reply,... I have simply been spreading myself too thin, betting 4 or 5 games,.. That's why I asked V.R. ... Yesterday I was on Cleveland, K.C. and Toronto.
                                      As many have said in the past, "If it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all." Appreciate your help, take care. Luke.
                                      Anytime my friend Luke, glad that I can be of assistance. However you do throw up a red flag to me my friend. The key ingredient to investing is money management,money management,money management.

                                      I know you've heard this preached over and over and I can't express how important it truly is. You should be doing 2-3 % of your BR per play and if you are aggresive no more than 5 % at most.

                                      This allows you to get through the tough times as all methods will encounter. Even if you say you only have 100.00 in BR then you should be betting 5.00 a game at most and I know it's not glamorous but this my friend,at least to me is what I do and it is a marathon and not a sprint.

                                      After 3 weeks of following me you would already be 150.00 ahead versus trying to filter games out. This is why I always would tell people in the past that I don't like filtering out plays. As if it comes up a play through my methods then it's a play.

                                      If you filter out like you did yesterday then you end up picking out the losers and tossing the winners. In the long run this is a very bad habit to form. As with those that follow different people who cap games it is inevitable that you will go broke.

                                      You wind up ,in the long run, catching everyone's losing streaks. So anyway my friend hope that I have made sense to you and I can't express enough to everyone to use sound money management in your investments. GOOD LUCK TO US ALL AND CONTINUED SUCCESS
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                                      • Coolice
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 03-08-16
                                        • 238

                                        #789
                                        True enough money management is key,... understood,... filtering as you say also can be detrimental,... Excellent advise well taken,... OK, true, a play is a play otherwise you wouldn't bother, good point,... Constructive advise,... Thank you.
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                                        • vegasreaper
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 04-27-11
                                          • 5656

                                          #790
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                                          • TanBanana
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-21-13
                                            • 212

                                            #791
                                            I'm pretty amazed at your thread thus far. Incredible that you are up nearly 30u so early in the season.

                                            My weakness in learning money management is parlay/teaser bets that seem "too good to be true"... Someone needs to get it into my thick skull that it's not a get rich overnight situation and that it's a long term thing.

                                            I will be tailing your bets and following this thread closely. Cheers!
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                                            • vegasreaper
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 04-27-11
                                              • 5656

                                              #792
                                              Originally posted by TanBanana
                                              I'm pretty amazed at your thread thus far. Incredible that you are up nearly 30u so early in the season.

                                              My weakness in learning money management is parlay/teaser bets that seem "too good to be true"... Someone needs to get it into my thick skull that it's not a get rich overnight situation and that it's a long term thing.

                                              I will be tailing your bets and following this thread closely. Cheers!
                                              Just remember my friend parlays pay the large payouts because they are THAT hard to hit. Anyone can hit them but in the long run it is a losing proposition this is why all of the sportsbooks love those parlay betters. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU MY FRIEND
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                                              • robert1d
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 11-12-15
                                                • 136

                                                #793
                                                Hi VR,
                                                I am new to your thread. Are you going to post the rest of your picks for today?
                                                Thanks
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                                                • vegasreaper
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-27-11
                                                  • 5656

                                                  #794
                                                  Originally posted by robert1d
                                                  Hi VR,
                                                  I am new to your thread. Are you going to post the rest of your picks for today?
                                                  Thanks
                                                  They're already there my friend...why it's edited
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                                                  • robert1d
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 11-12-15
                                                    • 136

                                                    #795
                                                    Originally posted by vegasreaper
                                                    They're already there my friend...why it's edited
                                                    Tampa-Baltimore ?
                                                    I thought you said you play them all.
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                                                    • vegasreaper
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-27-11
                                                      • 5656

                                                      #796
                                                      Originally posted by robert1d
                                                      Tampa-Baltimore ?
                                                      I thought you said you play them all.
                                                      LOL I don't give plays for EVERY game my friend just the ones my numbers come out with an edge. Today is alot we have action in 11 of 15 games isn't that enough?
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                                                      • robert1d
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 11-12-15
                                                        • 136

                                                        #797
                                                        no, no...it's fine thank you anyway, since I don't follow baseball, but like to bet
                                                        It's more than enough!
                                                        Good luck to us all!
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                                                        • dvb02
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-30-09
                                                          • 2941

                                                          #798
                                                          Originally posted by vegasreaper
                                                          Well I will go ahead and put the less chalky ones so all can take advantage of reduced lines

                                                          952-WAS-195
                                                          954-NYM-160
                                                          956-CHC-200
                                                          957-PIT-130
                                                          962-LAD-1.5-125
                                                          965-CWS-125
                                                          967-OAK-115
                                                          972-TEX+120
                                                          974-MIN-115
                                                          977-HOU-125
                                                          979-BOS-170

                                                          AS ALWAYS GOOD LUCK TO US ALL
                                                          Let's keep the winning streak alive VR!!!!!!
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                                                          • vegasreaper
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 04-27-11
                                                            • 5656

                                                            #799
                                                            Sorry my friend Coolice almost went 3-0 for you
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                                                            • vegasreaper
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-27-11
                                                              • 5656

                                                              #800
                                                              First time in KERSHAWS career that he's given up five straight hits
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                                                              • vegasreaper
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-27-11
                                                                • 5656

                                                                #801
                                                                Well another solid day for us at +3.75 to bring us to a solid +33.15 units
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                                                                • vegasreaper
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 04-27-11
                                                                  • 5656

                                                                  #802
                                                                  Okay let's keep the money train rolling. Here are the plays for Wednesday 4-27

                                                                  906-NYM-210
                                                                  910-COL+110
                                                                  915-CWS+135
                                                                  919-BAL+125
                                                                  926-LAA-115
                                                                  928-SEA-130
                                                                  929-ATL+170

                                                                  AS ALWAYS GOOD LUCK TO US ALL
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                                                                  • shopbar picks
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-08-10
                                                                    • 2157

                                                                    #803
                                                                    You rock. But I have a bookie that sucks. His LAD odds were 1 to 5. I know you say get an offshore acct. Not happening. I take my locals best odds and your picks. Hit 4 out of 4 and a six team parlay. Once again I beg for a VR ML MLB parlay
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                                                                    • dvb02
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-30-09
                                                                      • 2941

                                                                      #804
                                                                      Keep up the awesome work VR!!!!!!!!!
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                                                                      • Puffdog
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 04-09-16
                                                                        • 109

                                                                        #805
                                                                        Originally posted by vegasreaper
                                                                        Well another solid day for us at +3.75 to bring us to a solid +33.15 units
                                                                        Best day yet VR, There is only one way to go and we are headed to the top!!
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