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  • Hardbodyfacts
    SBR Rookie
    • 06-30-13
    • 21

    #1
    Jays Under Lots of Vaule
    Weathers Perfect For The Under
  • drfunkmaster
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-29-08
    • 11162

    #2
    i would stay away from under... jays at home..
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    • Hardbodyfacts
      SBR Rookie
      • 06-30-13
      • 21

      #3
      I Know But Weather Is Perfect Winds 11MPH
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      • curtrambus
        SBR MVP
        • 09-13-12
        • 1118

        #4
        It's spelled value not vaule
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        • MonkeyMoney
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-31-13
          • 579

          #5
          haha the vaule is in the over.. its canada day and tdot is hot at home... even tho no fire power from lind
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          • MagicDiceFlow
            SBR MVP
            • 01-15-12
            • 4585

            #6
            Originally posted by Hardbodyfacts
            I Know But Weather Is Perfect Winds 11MPH

            11mph isnt much wind. More importantly if you're going for the weather angle, you have to see what direction it's blowing. If those flags are blowing out to center, that under can backfire.
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            • PerfectGrape
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-20-11
              • 6761

              #7
              Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow
              11mph isnt much wind. More importantly if you're going for the weather angle, you have to see what direction it's blowing. If those flags are blowing out to center, that under can backfire.
              I disagree, 11mph winds is pretty significant in most places. Hard to figure out stadium though, wind supposedly has less of an effect because of the high walls, yet balls are flying out of there.
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              • GoldGlove
                SBR Sharp
                • 08-10-12
                • 383

                #8
                Wind blowing from the RF to the LF
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                • face
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-31-11
                  • 14740

                  #9
                  toronto is a home run paradise, ball just sails there
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                  • billysink
                    Restricted User
                    • 03-29-09
                    • 5172

                    #10
                    Learn your stadiums boys. That place is a wind tunnel with the roof open. See here where the roof stacks up and tell me about the wind after that

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                    • Bluedragon
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-30-10
                      • 3484

                      #11
                      Originally posted by billysink
                      Learn your stadiums boys. That place is a wind tunnel with the roof open. See here where the roof stacks up and tell me about the wind after that

                      Nah man. Not a wind tunnel at all. Been to countless games. Barely ever feel any breeze. Look how high the stadium rises. Not a wind tunnel by any means IMO
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bluedragon
                        Nah man. Not a wind tunnel at all. Been to countless games. Barely ever feel any breeze. Look how high the stadium rises. Not a wind tunnel by any means IMO
                        yea but really doesnt matter what wind doing the ball always flys with roof opened correct? i mean op saying perfect weather cause of a 11 mph wind id assume he thinks is blowing in which really not a nig deal most places but i know it not here cause ive seen the wind needle on my site saying hard in in tor and ball still flys out, like someone told me earlier that i never really knew but makes sense that wind doesnt get to field much with those high ass walls.
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                        • billysink
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                          • 03-29-09
                          • 5172

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bluedragon
                          Nah man. Not a wind tunnel at all. Been to countless games. Barely ever feel any breeze. Look how high the stadium rises. Not a wind tunnel by any means IMO
                          Brother. You sitting down in a box telling folk you don't feel a breeze is entertaining. You sitting in a damn chair not flying through the air @ 50-85 ft.

                          There is a vacum extending 30-40 feet toward second base in that outfield because no wind can permeate the roof structure. Whether blowing in or out, air is going to flow towards that dead space.

                          The place is a launch pad period with the roof open. Every park factor stat in creation supports that.
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                          • GoldGlove
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 08-10-12
                            • 383

                            #14
                            BJ's stadium is 4th when it comes to runs scored this season.
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #15
                              Originally posted by billysink
                              Brother. You sitting down in a box telling folk you don't feel a breeze is entertaining. You sitting in a damn chair not flying through the air @ 50-85 ft.

                              There is a vacum extending 30-40 feet toward second base in that outfield because no wind can permeate the roof structure. Whether blowing in or out, air is going to flow towards that dead space.

                              The place is a launch pad period with the wind open. Every park factor stat in creation supports that.
                              i wish we could clone you and inject some more posters worth a fukk into this dump..new sbr idea, when someone signs up they have to read at least 500 billysink post and then turn in a copy of their 1st post and prove they capable of posting something worth reading..
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                              • 4seasons
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-04-11
                                • 1793

                                #16
                                Windy field would help Dickey I'd think.
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                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 19734

                                  #17
                                  will the roof be open or closed?

                                  looks like it's gonna rain.
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 4seasons
                                    Windy field would help Dickey I'd think.
                                    only blowing out but as has been mentioned it seems that it not as windy on the field but more in air above.. either way dont think it blowing out anyway which is really only way it helps it dance far as i know..
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                                    • billysink
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 03-29-09
                                      • 5172

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                      i wish we could clone you and inject some more posters worth a fukk into this dump..new sbr idea, when someone signs up they have to read at least 500 billysink post and then turn in a copy of their 1st post and prove they capable of posting something worth reading..
                                      Its all good banker. I am here to help and to learn myself. Don't be too hard on folk, they will prove themselves capable of learning if they want. Some just want to talk ball and we can point them in the right direction.

                                      Some posters have varying degrees of interest in this stuff. Some are fans, others hobbyists, others serious investors.

                                      If they want a pointer or two, I can help.


                                      If not I can fukkin talk shit like a champ too.
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                                      • ridims
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-15-10
                                        • 3863

                                        #20
                                        looks like dome is closed fellas
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                                        • jsleeeee
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-16-12
                                          • 504

                                          #21
                                          theres just value in the under 9 even without the weather affecting the game.
                                          Im on under 9 as well.
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                                          • Allen24
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-15-10
                                            • 857

                                            #22
                                            jays line went from -135 to -130?
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                                            • ThingsFallApart
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 12-24-10
                                              • 880

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ridims
                                              looks like dome is closed fellas
                                              The twitter account said open this morning. Unless they've closed it recently you may be wrong that.
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                                              • billysink
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 03-29-09
                                                • 5172

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Allen24
                                                jays line went from -135 to -130?
                                                be in the teens by first pitch
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                                                • Bluedragon
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-30-10
                                                  • 3484

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by billysink
                                                  Brother. You sitting down in a box telling folk you don't feel a breeze is entertaining. You sitting in a damn chair not flying through the air @ 50-85 ft.

                                                  There is a vacum extending 30-40 feet toward second base in that outfield because no wind can permeate the roof structure. Whether blowing in or out, air is going to flow towards that dead space.

                                                  The place is a launch pad period with the roof open. Every park factor stat in creation supports that.
                                                  At field level though brother? I think the initial discussion was how it would affect Dickey's pitches, not the bats. I don't think the wind affects pitches much at field level. When the ball is in the air, that's different. What do you think?

                                                  I don't sit in boxes either lol...if you do, hook a brother up!
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                                                  • billysink
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                                                    • 03-29-09
                                                    • 5172

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Bluedragon
                                                    At field level though brother? I think the initial discussion was how it would affect Dickey's pitches, not the bats. I don't think the wind affects pitches much at field level. When the ball is in the air, that's different. What do you think?

                                                    I don't sit in boxes either lol...if you do, hook a brother up!
                                                    Dragon you get to Detroit and I got you covered.

                                                    I did not comment on Dickey because to be quite honest I would just be making shit up. Ain't nothing like a knuckleballer to make a damn liar out of everyone.

                                                    Know the batted ball at Rogers pretty good though.
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Bluedragon
                                                      At field level though brother? I think the initial discussion was how it would affect Dickey's pitches, not the bats. I don't think the wind affects pitches much at field level. When the ball is in the air, that's different. What do you think?

                                                      I don't sit in boxes either lol...if you do, hook a brother up!
                                                      i think this 100% spot on from the sounds of it. and yea field level was my concern, i didnt know what effect wind had on hit balls or why but always known doesnt really matter what direction wind blowing the ball jumps with roof opened..and as i said i didnt realize how the walls kept wind from effecting field level but makes a ton of sense as to why dickhead been clobbered by pretty much every good offense he has faced at rodgers and now i know to only look for a wind blowing out situation where the knuckle dances more when he on the road..det has a combined .371 ba against dickhead and think alvarez changeup that jays have never seen will keep them off balance for a while at least..no desire to get involved in a pen war cause det brings a stapler to a gunfight in that regard so i played tigers ff +125...your post were really helpful, between ou and billy think i have a much better understanding or rodgers center than i did before..
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                                                      • Bluedragon
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-30-10
                                                        • 3484

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by billysink
                                                        Dragon you get to Detroit and I got you covered.

                                                        I did not comment on Dickey because to be quite honest I would just be making shit up. Ain't nothing like a knuckleballer to make a damn liar out of everyone.

                                                        Know the batted ball at Rogers pretty good though.
                                                        Yes the batted ball flies here.

                                                        I think when I was talking about the wind it was because we were discussing the wind making dickey's pitch "dance" but I was simply saying that once the wind hits pitch-level it is almost, ALMOST, non-existent.


                                                        Oh you're in detroit eh? I have only ever been a couple of times. To Dearborn as well haha for hockey tourney.
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                                                        • Bluedragon
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-30-10
                                                          • 3484

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                          i think this 100% spot on from the sounds of it. and yea field level was my concern, i didnt know what effect wind had on hit balls or why but always known doesnt really matter what direction wind blowing the ball jumps with roof opened..and as i said i didnt realize how the walls kept wind from effecting field level but makes a ton of sense as to why dickhead been clobbered by pretty much every good offense he has faced at rodgers and now i know to only look for a wind blowing out situation where the knuckle dances more when he on the road..det has a combined .371 ba against dickhead and think alvarez changeup that jays have never seen will keep them off balance for a while at least..no desire to get involved in a pen war cause det brings a stapler to a gunfight in that regard so i played tigers ff +125...your post were really helpful, between ou and billy think i have a much better understanding or rodgers center than i did before..
                                                          Quote of the day brother! hahaha.
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                                                          • billysink
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 03-29-09
                                                            • 5172

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Bluedragon
                                                            Yes the batted ball flies here.

                                                            I think when I was talking about the wind it was because we were discussing the wind making dickey's pitch "dance" but I was simply saying that once the wind hits pitch-level it is almost, ALMOST, non-existent.


                                                            Oh you're in detroit eh? I have only ever been a couple of times. To Dearborn as well haha for hockey tourney.
                                                            Prolly stayed in that damn dump of a Doubletree, Right off Southfield freeway.

                                                            Come on down anytime pal. I can get chairs at will here.
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                                                            • Bluedragon
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-30-10
                                                              • 3484

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by billysink
                                                              Prolly stayed in that damn dump of a Doubletree, Right off Southfield freeway.

                                                              Come on down anytime pal. I can get chairs at will here.
                                                              That DOES ring a bell...

                                                              I saw the biggest street brawl of my life in Dearborn.

                                                              Thanks brother, invitation is reciprocated. Better beer and bud here lol
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                                                              • Gus Fring
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                                                                • 03-21-13
                                                                • 3423

                                                                #32
                                                                Dickey looks good today. This looks like a winner
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                                                                • 2daBank
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                                  • 88966

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Gus Fring
                                                                  Dickey looks good today. This looks like a winner
                                                                  gus why do i get the feeling you may struggle with premature ejaculation from time to time
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                                                                  • PerfectGrape
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-20-11
                                                                    • 6761

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Anyone have sources or hard evidence on breaking down wind in Tor? High walls minimize wind even for fly balls? Should wind mostly be ignored and and just apply the park factors regardless of wind conditions?
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                                                                    • neutral
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-29-12
                                                                      • 1002

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I have small play on the under not because of weather but metrics actually show both SP are pitching well.
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