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what are the rules for when several of the bets go against each other like this? the net result of the washington/dodgers series would be dodgers for +1u so do you just play the dodgers?
i know stifler just plays all his plays in order to keep track of everything but for someone who is tailing, you only need to make 1 bet, correct?
Im playing both games. Playing just 1 series is plain stupid.
Do you have soccer thread?
No, im doing all soccer plays on my own without posting.
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whtsox13
SBR MVP
05-02-12
1401
#1437
Originally posted by FearTheBeard
what are the rules for when several of the bets go against each other like this? the net result of the washington/dodgers series would be dodgers for +1u so do you just play the dodgers?
i know stifler just plays all his plays in order to keep track of everything but for someone who is tailing, you only need to make 1 bet, correct?
Beard I'm clueless on this toilet bowl system but get what you're saying. I read it for the levity but am staying away from the big flush.
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#1438
Originally posted by Stifler
20.07.2013
S1
(D Bet) Stl fade:Hou 3,45 0,408u | Hou 3,36 0,597u | SD 2,59 1,261u | San Diego 2,75 1,866u
(D Bet) Z.Greinke fade: SD 2,09 0,917u | Col 2,05 1,826u | Ari 1,962 3,891u| Washington 1,794 9,615u
(C Bet) G.Gonzalez fade:Ari 2,29 0,775u | SD 2,46 1,216u| LA Dodgers 2,16 2,578u
(A Bet) Z.Greinke: LA Dodgers 2,16 0,862u
(A Bet) M.Cain fade: Arizona 2,26 0,794u
P3 Z.Greinke fade series lost = -15,249 units
records: S1: W 30 | L 0 (+30,00 units)
S2: W 29 | L 3 (-4,001 units)
S3: W 152 | L 5 (+6,345 units)
P1: W 18 | L 1 (+9,971 units)
P2: W 30 | L 2 (+10,536 units)
P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 C.Kershaw, B Bet on next start
- P2 C.Kershaw, B Bet on next start
- P1 D.Haren fade, B Bet on next start
- P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
- S3 Balti fade, C Bet on 21.07.2013
- S3 Tex, C Bet on 21.07.2013
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
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ghost212
SBR High Roller
10-28-11
142
#1440
Stifler, if you have got that, can you write down some stats ?
1. Stats for A bet, b bet, c bet, d bet... how many lose how many wins.
2. All lose series stakes on all bets.
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#1441
Originally posted by ghost212
Stifler, if you have got that, can you write down some stats ?
1. Stats for A bet, b bet, c bet, d bet... how many lose how many wins.
2. All lose series stakes on all bets.
i dont have those stats and its not that important to me tbh.
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challa8
SBR Sharp
05-28-13
303
#1442
great job.but whe u dont like baseball when did u start looking into baseball stats and made this systems what made u research on a boring game (in ur view)?
records: S1: W 30 | L 0 (+30,00 units)
S2: W 29 | L 3 (-4,001 units)
S3: W 152 | L 5 (+6,345 units)
P1: W 19 | L 1 (+10,971 units)
P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren fade, B Bet on next start
- P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
- S3 Balti fade, D Bet on 22.07.2013
- S3 Tex, D Bet on 22.07.2013
- S1 Col fade, B Bet on 22.07.2013
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
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tommpae
SBR Rookie
04-18-13
22
#1445
Big night tonight!:-)
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tommpae
SBR Rookie
04-18-13
22
#1446
Big night tonight!:-)
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knugen
SBR MVP
12-09-09
2612
#1447
Not looking Good for france, Theo are staying reality bad and are Down 0-1
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knugen
SBR MVP
12-09-09
2612
#1448
Its still Alive 1-1 with 20 min left
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knugen
SBR MVP
12-09-09
2612
#1449
And there we lose the D bet parlay
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tommpae
SBR Rookie
04-18-13
22
#1450
Yepp.....
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sportscreep1
SBR Sharp
03-02-10
292
#1451
Now you gotta follow it as it's intended....Texas d bet.... Or try parlay again with Oak....
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illisdre
SBR Sharp
06-22-12
360
#1452
I hate those 2 d bets. Both against teams that can hit. naturally I would be taking NYy and BAL ..bol!
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skyscrapers
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-11
6343
#1453
Now that the soccer bet has lost I'm hoping TEX loses too so I don't feel as crappy.
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Greg242
SBR Wise Guy
11-07-11
551
#1454
Texas looking better then KC lol
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knugen
SBR MVP
12-09-09
2612
#1455
Famn, that was a bad night
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#1456
Originally posted by knugen
Famn, that was a bad night
just when u played it like i did. Dont follow blindly just because im making this parlay. I should have known better, but thats what u get betting on women soccer. Unfortunately the big soccer leagues arent running, otherwise i would have found a better game to parlay. But no excuses at all, just my bad. Onto the next ones...maybe i will put some 2 unit plays on A bets out there to get back a little (but just when i feel more comfortable with a series)
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#1457
Originally posted by Stifler
22.07.2013
S1
(B Bet) Col fade:Cubs 2,49 0,671u | Miami 2,53 1,092u (A Bet) NYY:Yankees 2,73 0,578u
S2
(A Bet) Pit fade:Washington 1,775 1,29u (A Bet) LAA:LA Angels 1,613 1,63u (A Bet) Cle fade:Seattle 1,833 1,20u
- S3 Balti fade series lost = -20,985 units - S3 Tex series lost = -21,805 units
records: S1: W 31 | L 0 (+31,00 units)
S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
- S1 NYY, B Bet on 23.07.2013
- S2 LAA, B Bet on 23.07.2013
- S2 Pit fade, B Bet on 23.07.2013
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
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knugen
SBR MVP
12-09-09
2612
#1459
Im not blaming you stiff. That was my choice. I felt thatt france wasnt worth Only 1,3. But you did Good parlays before so i trusted you
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SuperHappyTime
SBR Rookie
01-14-13
42
#1460
Originally posted by Stifler
- S3 Balti fade series lost = -20,985 units - S3 Tex series lost = -21,805 units
records: S1: W 31 | L 0 (+31,00 units)
S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
- S1 NYY, B Bet on 23.07.2013
- S2 LAA, B Bet on 23.07.2013
- S2 Pit fade, B Bet on 23.07.2013
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Is it really fair To the system to count the Texas series as a loss? They did win.
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sportscreep1
SBR Sharp
03-02-10
292
#1461
Originally posted by Stifler
- S3 Balti fade series lost = -20,985 units - S3 Tex series lost = -21,805 units
records: S1: W 31 | L 0 (+31,00 units)
S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Stif,
can you amend record to show that system won, but you personally lost on the series? Put actual number on it, but maybe in parenthesis put your loss.
S3: W 153 | 6 (-14.640 units) (personal loss -36,445 with Tex parlay loss)
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FearTheBeard
SBR Hustler
05-28-13
62
#1462
Originally posted by sportscreep1
Stif,
can you amend record to show that system won, but you personally lost on the series? Put actual number on it, but maybe in parenthesis put your loss.
S3: W 153 | 6 (-14.640 units) (personal loss -36,445 with Tex parlay loss)
^^This.
I personally laid off the Baltimore fade bet as I had a good feeling they'd sweep Texas. Only chance was the (A) bet when Holland was pitching, Texas offense is mediocre at best right now and they had spot-start / former relief pitchers pitching games 2-3. I decided to chase Texas anyway, ended up cashing the D-bet with no parlay and laid off the Baltimore fade series so I feel pretty good.
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calebepley93
SBR Hustler
02-23-13
98
#1463
Other losses have been tallied with reduced juice due to parlays/run line. It wouldn't be fair to strike this loss just because Texas won.
I've never been a fan of recording the results differently when something is used to reduce the juice. If you're gonna play an individual chase differently, make note but record the numbers with the original system rules. You will never get an accurate tally of how the system performs until you do so.
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#1464
Other series were listed like i played them aswell, so i will stick to it. This thread shows the live performance based on the system rules. It will never be as accurate as the backtested number. But its not important at all, because i will backtest everything after the season again and note down the numbers. There´s no other person who needs an accurate record at all, because im setting up rules/teams for the whole system. If anyone want to have live numbers based on exact system rules - feel free to backtest everything daily on ur own.
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shadow13
SBR Rookie
08-10-11
25
#1465
Great job Stifler just keep posting my friend!
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Wallco99
SBR Hall of Famer
01-01-11
7271
#1466
Originally posted by SuperHappyTime
Is it really fair To the system to count the Texas series as a loss? They did win.
NO, but it doesn't really matter because the system records are completely tainted anyway from other games that did lose that were also tied in with these ridiculous parlays. The system unit counts are just a mirage and don't even remotely reflect how bad the sysetm is actually doing anyway.
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Grinder12000
SBR MVP
04-21-11
1809
#1467
Seriously - system numbers are meaningless unless you are betting pennies. It's what YOU are doing and YOUR bankroll does. Many people do their own thing and use Stifflers system as just one tool in the tool box. Stiffler himself uses this Chase as just a tool in his tool box.
So you can be anal and ONLY play the system and when you win you can pound your chest and when you lose you can blame the system and not yourself. Or you can follow Stiffler who has the systems heartbeat. I would follow the guy that lives and breaths the system
I've been using a modified version with much less risk but also much less potential. In the last month,110 games, up 30 units but using Stiffs chase as a model. A system/handicapping fusion LOL
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#1468
Originally posted by Stifler
23.07.2013
S1
(B Bet) NYY:Yankees 2,73 0,578u | Yankees 2,60 0,986u (A Bet) SD fade:2u play Milwaukee 1,87 2,30u
records: S1: W 32 | L 0 (+32,00 units)
S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P2 B.Chen fade, B Bet on next start
- S2 LAA, C Bet on 24.07.2013
- S2 Pit fade, C Bet on 24.07.2013
- S1 SD fade, B Bet on 24.07.2013
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#1469
- everything is back to win 1unit. Parlayed S2 Angels with Bayern Munich today vs Barcelona. I first didnt wanna parlay that game, but its the Angels. Also i do like Bayern today, Barca without some of their big players (Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar), Barca also just started training + coach problems.
24.07.2013
S1
(B Bet) SD fade:Milwaukee 1,87 2,30u | Milwaukee 1,641 5,148u (A Bet) Pit fade: Washington 1,709 1,41u (A Bet) Stl: St.Louis 1,578 1,73u
S2
(C Bet) Pit fade:Washington 1,775 1,29u | Washington 1,926 2,473u | Washington 1,709 6,718u (C Bet) LAA:LA Angels 1,613 1,63u | LA Angels 1,571 4,606u | LAA+Bayern 1,974 7,429u
P3
(A Bet) J.Weaver: LA Angels 1,408 2,45u
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jesramos
SBR Rookie
03-02-13
25
#1470
Solid parlay !
Barca key players are still on vacation , while German league started early. Bayern will dominate this game (IMO) I took the run line. I also like the Angels strong today, they been playing solid in the last games.
Good luck