Donald Trump's US President Odds Improving!!

[khicks26]

being from Canada, I know single payer isn't perfect but it works pretty darn well overall. Maybe a version of that will work. Surely the US can design a plan that everyone can agree with. Crazy that they can't seem to.

Agree, if the Dem's won't do it. What makes you think Trump & the Rep's will.

8 years of Obama & all we got was a crappy Right Wing Healthcare Bill. The Rep's want an even crappier bill.

[khicks26]

LOL, watched.

LOL Thanks RK you the man.

[rkelly110]

was I supposed to discuss that goofy TYT video? No thanks. They are liars and race baiters and I won't deal with the stupidity.

As far as Trumpcare goes, I think it is an improvement over Obamacare but it doesn't sound like what Trump promised. Do I blame him? Not really. But if they don't get the votes, then I agree with him to move on to tax reform etc and let Obamacare implode on itself. He should start over and implement a single payer plan. Bunch of crybabies in congress still.

Everything hinges on the healthcare act/ law. You can't do tax cuts or the budget w/o knowing what the
act/ bill will cost. It's like buying a house not knowing what your income is.

[DwightShrute]

Everything hinges on the healthcare act/ law. You can't do tax cuts or the budget w/o knowing what the
act/ bill will cost. It's like buying a house not knowing what your income is.

you didn't seem to have a problem with "we have to pass it so we can see what's in it"

[rkelly110]

you didn't seem to have a problem with "we have to pass it so we can see what's in it"

I thought that quote was dumb. I think Nancy is dumb. But, it wasn't implemented for 5 years to save up
for medicare expansion so they had money to pull from. Since when does the govt save for anything?

[JIBBBY]

Obamacare was a ponzi scheme and a disaster from the start. Thank you Obama for dumping this pile of garbage on Trump and the republican party...

Obama is to blame for our current healthcare problems and issues.. Dems didn't think it out long term when they passed Obamacare.. Shitting on the people..

[rkelly110]

Obamacare was a ponzi scheme and a disaster from the start. Thank you Obama for dumping this pile of garbage on Trump and the republican party...

Obama is to blame for our current healthcare problems and issues.. Dems didn't think it out long term when they passed Obamacare.. Shitting on the people..

You can thank your Repubs way back in 2001 for allowing hospitals and doctors to demand more money
making insurance companies put the burden on us, because employers couldn't handle the extra cost.

Premiums and deductibles were going up every year before Obama care. Maybe you weren't old enough
to remember or just need someone to blame.

[khicks26]

Obamacare was a ponzi scheme and a disaster from the start. Thank you Obama for dumping this pile of garbage on Trump and the republican party...

Obama is to blame for our current healthcare problems and issues.. Dems didn't think it out long term when they passed Obamacare.. Shitting on the people..

I don't remember Trump running on, "I'm going to blame Obama"

It was Its going to be Amazing, Terrific, Winning. Now its SAD, BABY. What a snowflake.

Why are the Koch Brothers so mean to me Daddy.

[JIBBBY]

I don't remember Trump running on, "I'm going to blame Obama"

It was Its going to be Amazing, Terrific, Winning. Now its SAD, BABY. What a snowflake.

Trump obviously didn't know what he was getting into with Obamacare when he was campaigning.. He quickly found out when he took office..

It's a real problem that is not easily fixed. Is what it is.. Not Trumps fault and you can't blame him... He inherited this mess.

[khicks26]

[jtoler]

Khicks be killing em with the vids. Pubs have no answers against the truth.

[JIBBBY]

You can thank your Repubs way back in 2001 for allowing hospitals and doctors to demand more money
making insurance companies put the burden on us, because employers couldn't handle the extra cost.

Premiums and deductibles were going up every year before Obama care. Maybe you weren't old enough
to remember or just need someone to blame.

I blame everyone before Trump in power, both Rep and Dems.. I also blame Obama for not thinking long term with Obamacare and forcing the American tax payers to pick up the bill for poor and uninsured.. Tax penalties if you don't sign up was just rude also. Felt communistic in nature.. I didn't like any of it and either did my friends.

Med costs, hospital stays, and Doctor fees are astronomical and over inflated.. If I owned an health insurance company I wouldn't want to insure anyone either unless I was able to charge massive premiums with huge deductibles..

Medical and corporate greed is really the American enemy in all this.. Is Ryancare the answer IDK? I will say this though it's probably better then Obamacare long term that's for sure!!!!! I'd pass it for the people..

[JIBBBY]

Well the new healthcare deal is dead and pulled.. Back to Obamacare enjoy until it blows up....

[Hareeba!]

Well the new healthcare deal is dead and pulled.. Back to Obamacare enjoy until it blows up....

False president fukked up on this.
Many more fuk ups coming.

[itchypickle]

Here'e a laugh out loud Friday for all of you red blooded Americans who love a good prank. Laughed my ass off at this one and will be doing this myself this summer.

[5mike5]

This was a huge embarrassment for Him and all them overall

[DwightShrute]

False president fukked up on this.
Many more fuk ups coming.

I don't think he fukked up. No reasonable person thinks so. Most us have been saying for many years how incompetent both parties are. Its not a dictatorship and there were both reps and dems against this plan saying it wasn't much better than the disaster Obamacare. It was better but it has to be much better. Go back and get it right. That is how things usually go.

In the meantime, Trump will go on making America great again. He just created 20,000 new jobs today. The guy is unstoppable.

[JIBBBY]

False president fukked up on this.
Many more fuk ups coming.

Right, I know Obama focked up with this Obamacare disaster that can't be fixed.. Not even Trump and all the political heads can fix this mess that Obama created..

Let Obamacare self destruct as it will in time... Then maybe the Dems and Reps can come together and figure something out for the American people... Obama was an idiot for starting and passing this crap...

Trump will take out ISIS though another Obama blunder he created..

[Foxx]

Med costs, hospital stays, and Doctor fees are astronomical and over inflated.. If I owned an health insurance company I wouldn't want to insure anyone either unless I was able to charge massive premiums with huge deductibles..

This was as still is the main problem with health care in the US. The prices are too high for everything compared to everywhere else in the the world. In most cases, much much higher. It's actually quite obscene.

Obamacare did basically zero to address this. I doubt the Republicans have any great ideas either.

[JIBBBY]

This was a huge embarrassment for Him and all them overall

Not really, certainly not Trumps fault.. He did everything he could... Time to move on to other important issues.. Like ISIS, the Wall, jobs, economy, other world threats...

[chico2663]

I blame everyone before Trump in power, both Rep and Dems.. I also blame Obama for not thinking long term with Obamacare and forcing the American tax payers to pick up the bill for poor and uninsured.. Tax penalties if you don't sign up was just rude also. Felt communistic in nature.. I didn't like any of it and either did my friends.

Med costs, hospital stays, and Doctor fees are astronomical and over inflated.. If I owned an health insurance company I wouldn't want to insure anyone either unless I was able to charge massive premiums with huge deductibles..

Medical and corporate greed is really the American enemy in all this.. Is Ryancare the answer IDK? I will say this though it's probably better then Obamacare long term that's for sure!!!!! I'd pass it for the people..

the penalty was 690. It is worth that to live in this country

[Foxx]

Here'e a laugh out loud Friday for all of you red blooded Americans who love a good prank. Laughed my ass off at this one and will be doing this myself this summer.

What a dick. I hope they beat his ass afterwards.

[JIBBBY]

Here'e a laugh out loud Friday for all of you red blooded Americans who love a good prank. Laughed my ass off at this one and will be doing this myself this summer.

Very cruel but very funny.. OMG!!!! That dude is a total dick......

[Andy117]

I don't think he fukked up. No reasonable person thinks so. Most us have been saying for many years how incompetent both parties are. Its not a dictatorship and there were both reps and dems against this plan saying it wasn't much better than the disaster Obamacare. It was better but it has to be much better. Go back and get it right. That is how things usually go.

In the meantime, Trump will go on making America great again. He just created 20,000 new jobs today. The guy is unstoppable.

Are you talking about the Charter jobs? That deal was in the works 2 years ago when they merged with Time Warner Cable and announced in Feb 2016.

[5mike5]

Not really, certainly not Trumps fault.. He did everything he could... Time to move on to other important issues.. Like ISIS, the Wall, jobs, economy, other world threats...

jibby,

Is there tax implications that makes it more diff to pass big tax reform because this health care bill isn't happening? I thought I heard that today but didn't hear how/why or if I even heard that correctly.

Thanks

[JIBBBY]

This was as still is the main problem with health care in the US. The prices are too high for everything compared to everywhere else in the the world. In most cases, much much higher. It's actually quite obscene.

Obamacare did basically zero to address this. I doubt the Republicans have any great ideas either.

Yep, I've been preaching this for years.. Greed in the medical industry from A-Z is the problem here in America as it's gotten out of control.. Regulate that shiiiit and put limits on medical charges and our healthcare problems will be fixed for everyone.. Penalize the greedy doctors, hospital owners, and med companies for over charging instead of tax payers..

Instead Obamacare just regulated the tax payers and fined them for not signing up to that expensive crap. White working middle class got stiffed again with Obama, still carries over to this day....

Even Bernie got this one right I must say!!!

[JIBBBY]

jibby,

Is there tax implications that makes it more diff to pass big tax reform because this health care bill isn't happening? I thought I heard that today but didn't hear how/why or if I even heard that correctly.

Thanks

I honestly don't know the details as I didn't read the bill.. My understanding of the basics were there would be no tax penalties or implications with the new plan, premiums would have continued to go up but over time they would go down...

Like I said it would have been better then Obamacare but it still wasn't good enough to pass I suppose...

I think it needs to start with regulating medical charging in the industry.. Every doctor visit should be no more $50, hospital stay overnight no more then $100, same goes with meds and surgeries as well.. Cut all that shiit in half and our healthcare system would be fixed over night..

[Andy117]

[d2bets]

Trumpp has still accomplished nothing other than more FBI investigations. Sad!

[DwightShrute]

^

doesn't look like Obama

[DwightShrute]

Trumpp has still accomplished nothing other than more FBI investigations. Sad!

you are truly the most intelligent poster on this forum. The most honest too.

[JIBBBY]

^

doesn't look like Obama

Dwight don't bother responding to the Trump haters that are clearly uniformed on what he has done and is doing.. Hardest working President in history thus far IMO.. On a mission to make America Great Again..

After 4 years I think we'll all be impressed if he doesn't drop dead from working so hard..

[Chi_archie]

or sunstroke from golfing in mar a lago 100x per year

[Hareeba!]

Not really, certainly not Trumps fault.. He did everything he could... Time to move on to other important issues.. Like ISIS, the Wall, jobs, economy, other world threats...

This is the bloke who promised to fix it. Millions of dumbfuks voted for him because of what he promised.
He's made promises he can't deliver on because he doesn't understand what he's dealing with. Very much his fault.
His travel ban measures fukked up, now healthcare. Stand by for several more embarrassing failures. It won't be too long before Americans come to realise what a mess they've been landed in after being duped by a lying incompetent.

[d2bets]

you are truly the most intelligent poster on this forum. The most honest too.

Thanks for your rare moment of honesty. Now go ahead and go back to being yourself.