[DiggityDaggityDo]

I'll let you boys know in 2 months.

Wish me luck.

[KVB]

Sooo many STDs out there......
Trichomomas, gonorhea, chlamydia, herpes,
AIDS, syphalis, chancre, etc

True, but it's all about the long story that is shortened to "I need to get tested"

Right???

For example, this guy's long story starts with a dance to impress the girl.

I wonder which one she'll give him...

[DiggityDaggityDo]

That guy has tremendous dance moves.

He should get tested.

[KVB]

That guy has tremendous dance moves. = THE BEGINNING OF A LONG STORY

He should get tested. = LONG STORY SHORT

Right????

[KVB]

Some long stories go a little different than others.

But the shortened version is always the same...

[KVB]

If I do I'll just go to the lake and go thumb fishing.

Excellent thumb and finger motion DDD, I bet that translates to other areas of life as well.

I'm more of the start with two fingers and see how far you can get kind of guy...



Nomsayin'.

[KVB]

Alright I was going to analyze results as I thought we had a play going off here.

But no play going off and it's late. I know there were some questions in the last couple of pages. I'll go back and see tomorrow.

Really getting the neuritis coming on, it could get a lot worse.

Feeling the fire...

[KVB]

It currently says this at the bottom of the page...

There are currently 2686 users online. 160 members and 2526 guests

I think this thread alone has gotten 2800 views in the last 3 hours.

Forget the views, that's a terrible ratio of members to guests, isn't it?

Feeling the fire...

[DiggityDaggityDo]

[dlowilly]

Some long stories go a little different than others.

But the shortened version is always the same...

This is the sort of thing that creates mudsharks. She definitely looks like she's at risk

Guy needs to just man up and take one for the betterment of society

[KVB]

This is the sort of thing that creates mudsharks. She definitely looks like she's at risk

Guy needs to just man up and take one for the betterment of society

She's got a few holes, they've presumably got a few rods.

I say they all three get down.

[KVB]

I think Washington is in a good position to win the Series and tonight it looks like them or no play.

I don't think they get it tonight though, but who knows?" They've had a good run and may have to endure a loss or two, it seems.

But don't count them out, it's looking to be one of those years.



Don't let it go unnoticed.

The underboob. Don't let the underboob go unnoticed.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

She's got a few holes, they've presumably got a few rods.

I say they all three get down.

I call

[DiggityDaggityDo]

[KVB]

I call

I have a 69 in the hole...

[KVB]

Did you see it?

Did you see that ass^^^?

[DiggityDaggityDo]

I have a 69 in the hole...

[DiggityDaggityDo]

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Did you see it?

Did you see that ass^^^?

[dlowilly]

I have a 69 in the hole...

Well played cheerleader dude...well played

[KVB]

Well played cheerleader dude...well played

Indeed, he was taught that if she's gonna fall on you, make sure she falls a certain way!

Not everyone was taught the physics of these ever so risky moves...

[KVB]

I was waiting for her to take a break and sit on the bicycle seat.

[KVB]

Here's the KVB NCAAF Totals Fund through week 8 with links to each play and a crude closing line comparison.

This Fund went 1-2, -1.13 units this week. Overall this Fund is -7.59 units with an atrocious win loss record but seems improving and steady against the closer...

				1 Unit	Closing	Beat	BTC
	Record	Date	NCAAF Totals Fund	per bet	Line	Closer?	Average
136	0-1	29-Aug	G TECH/CLEMSON UNDER 61.5 (-105)	-1	60.5	Y	1
158	0-2	30-Aug	PURDUE/NEVADA UNDER 58.5 (-105)	-1	58.5	PUSH	0
181	0-3	31-Aug	SC/NC OVER 63 (-105)	-1	62	N	-1
216	0-3-1	1-Sep	HOU/OK UNDER 80 (-105)	0	80.5	N	-0.5
312	1-3-1	7-Sep	ARMY/MICH UNDER 48 (-105)	0.95	48	PUSH	0
376	1-4-1		NEVADA/OREGON UNDER 61.5 (-105)	-1	62	N	-0.5
392	2-4-1		ORE ST/HAWAII UNDER 77.5 (-105)	0.95	78	N	-0.5
106	2-5-1	13-Sep	KANSAS/BC UNDER 51 (-105)	-1	51	PUSH	0
108	3-5-1		WASH ST/HOU UNDER 74.5 (-105)	0.95	74	Y	0.5
128	4-5-1	14-Sep	SDSU/N MEX ST UNDER 51 (-105)	0.95	51	PUSH	0
138	4-6-1		ALABAMA/SC UNDER 61.5 (-105)	-1	59.5	Y	2
314	4-7-1	21-Sep	MIA (OH)/OHIO ST UNDER 56.5 (-105)	-1	56.5	PUSH	0
398	4-8-1		UCLA/WASH ST UNDER 58.5 (-105)	-1	59.5	N	-1
116	5-8-1	28-Sep	WAKE/BC UNDER 69.5 (-108)	0.93	69.5	PUSH	0
134	5-9-1		AKRON/UMASS UNDER 62.5 (-108)	-1	60.5	Y	2
142	6-9-1		M TENN ST/IOWA UNDER 52 (-102)	0.98	51	Y	1
146	7-9-1		WASH ST/UTAH UNDER 57 (-105)	0.95	57	PUSH	0
170	7-10-1		T TECH/OKLAHOMA UNDER 70.5 (-110)	-1	69	Y	1.5
341	7-11-1	5-Oct	LIBERTY/N MEX ST OVER 62.5 (-105)	-1	63.5	Y	1
367	7-12-1		W MICH/TOLEDO OVER 72.5 (-105)	-1	73.5	Y	1
385	7-13-1		AUBURN/FLORIDA OVER 48.5 (-109)	-1	48.5	PUSH	0
109	7-14-1	11-Oct	VA/MIA OVER 43 (-105)	-1	43.5	Y	0.5
168	8-14-1	12-Oct	MIA (OH)/W MICH UNDER 57 (-105)	0.95	57.5	Y	0.5
196	8-15-1		MASS/LOUIS TECH UNDER 63 (-105)	-1	64	Y	1
205	9-15-1		WYOMING/SDSU OVER 38 (-107)	0.93	37.5	N	-0.5
331	9-16-1	19-Oct	FLORIDA ST/WAKE OVER 68 (-110)	-1	68.5	Y	0.5
372	10-16-1		COLORADA/WASH ST UNDER 71 (-115)	0.87	68.5	Y	2.5
416	10-17-1		RICE/UTSA UNDER 42.5 (-105)	-1	43	N	-0.5
	10-17-1		Total	-7.59		13-7-8	0.375

Again, what adversity this Fund had last year was mostly above water but it did dip close to zero and with this years -7.59 units, we have given up all of last years gains in this Fund...



Here's this year's charts. We have a situation where the closing average comparison started out slow but seems to be improving overall while the units have dropped...







While this year's closing comparison has caused an overall dip so that we are no enjoying a near .6 point advantage, we are still well over half a point (.54848) in the comparison over 195 plays...



It's best to keep an eye on that closing value momentum and the overall give and take trend of the market here, as some adjustments to this Fund are market based.

It's been a pretty rough start to this season so let's see if the Units can follow that closing comparison as we get deeper into the second half of the season.

[KVB]

Here's the KVB NCAAF ATS/ML Fund through week 8 with links to each play and a crude closing line comparison.

This Fund went 3-3-1, -.18 units this week and has been steadily rising against the closer.

	Record	Date	NCAAF ATS/ML Fund	1 Unit	Closing	Beat	BTC ATS
	ATS			per bet	Line	Closer?	Average
141	1-0	29-Aug	KENT ST +24.5 (-105)	0.95	24.5	PUSH	0
144	1-1		BYU +6.5 (-105)	-1	5	Y	1.5
235	2-1		S DAKOTA ST +15.5 (-110)	0.91	14.5	Y	1
150	2-2	30-Aug	S FLORIDA +10.5 (-105)	-1	10	Y	0.5
161	3-2	31-Aug	FAU +27.5 (-105)	0.95	28	N	-0.5
183	3-3		Duke +33.5 (-105)	-1	33.5	PUSH	0
204	3-4		PIT +2.5 (+100)	-1	2.5	PUSH	0
319	3-5	7-Sep	WV +14 (-107)	-1	13.5	Y	0.5
334	3-6		CLEMSON -16.5 (-105)	-1	-16.5	N	-0.5
349	4-6		SDSU +9 (-105)	0.95	7.5	Y	1.5
360	4-7		FAU +10.5 (-102)	-1	13.5	N	-3
364	4-8		KANSAS -7 (-110)	-1	-7	PUSH	0
389	4-8-1		MINNESOTA -3 (-110)	0	-3	PUSH	0
110	4-9-1	14-Sep	INDIANA +18 (-105)	-1	17.5	Y	0.5
114	5-9-1		WV +7 (-105)	0.95	7	PUSH	0
116	6-9-1		TEMPLE +7 (-105)	0.95	5	Y	2
121	7-9-1		E MICHIGAN +7 (+100)	1	7	PUSH	0
150	7-10-1		TULSA +14 (-103)	-1	14	PUSH	0
164	7-11-1		BGSU +12 (-105)	-1	12.5	N	-0.5
306	8-11-1	20-Sep	USC +3.5 (-105)	0.95	3.5	PUSH	0
307	8-12-1		FL INT +7.5 (-112)	-1	7	Y	0.5
347	9-12-1	21-Sep	N MEX ST +4.5 (-105)	0.95	4	Y	0.5
362	10-12-1		MISS ST -6 (-105)	0.95	-6	PUSH	0
370	10-13-1		TULSA -3.5 (-105)	-1	-5.5	Y	2
394	11-13-1		FLORIDA ST -6.5 (-110)	0.91	-6.5	PUSH	0
396	11-14-1		UTEP +14.5 (-112)	-1	14	Y	0.5
108	11-15-1	27-Sep	MD +6.5 (-109)	-1	6.5	PUSH	0
113	12-15-1	28-Sep	N'WESTERN +24.5 (-105)	0.95	23	Y	1.5
125	12-16-1		G TECH +8.5 (-102)	-1	9	N	-0.5
172	12-17-1		CHARLOTTE -1 (-105)	-1	1	N	-2
192	13-17-1		W KENTUCKY +3.5 (-110)	0.91	3	Y	0.5
308	14-17-1	4-Oct	CINCI +4 (-108)	0.93	3.5	Y	0.5
332	15-17-1	5-Oct	T TECH +10 (-109)	0.92	9.5	Y	0.5
333	15-18-1		KENT ST +35 (-107)	-1	35	PUSH	0
354	15-19-1		SMU -12.5 (-105)	-1	-12	N	-0.5
362	15-20-1		NEBRASKA -7 (-115)	-1	-7.5	Y	0.5
366	16-20-1		NAVY +3.5 (-110)	0.91	3	Y	0.5
382	17-20-1		GA ST +6.5 (-101)	0.99	6.5	PUSH	0
124	17-21-1	12-Oct	TULSA +1.5 (-108)	-1	-1	Y	2.5
136	18-21-1		PURDUE +3.5 (-110)	0.91	4	N	-0.5
160	18-22-1		AKRON +14.5 (-105)	-1	14.5	PUSH	0
170	19-22-1		S FLORIDA +5 (-103)	0.97	4.5	Y	0.5
177	19-23-1		MICHIGAN ST +10.5 (-105)	-1	8	Y	2.5
190	20-23-1		S MISS -3 (-105)	0.95	-3	PUSH	0
311	21-23-1	18-Oct	PITT -3.5 (-115)	0.87	-3.5	PUSH	0
328	21-23-2	19-Oct	MD +6 (-102)	0	6.5	N	-0.5
346	21-24-2		OHIO -7.5 (-105)	-1	-9	Y	1.5
356	22-24-2		BYU +7 (+100)	1	7	PUSH	0
362	23-24-2		BALL ST -2 (-105)	0.95	-3	Y	1
374	23-25-2		SC +5.5 (-107)	-1	3.5	Y	2
392	23-26-2		ARKANSAS +19.5 (-102)	-1	20	N	-0.5
	23-26-2		Total	-4.32		23-10-18	0.314

This year there have been 51 plays and last year it took 57 plays for this Fund to reach positive territory...



The Fund is basically at the same level against the close as last year but this year's charts show it trending upwards from the slower start...





Let's see how the next couple of weeks unfold here. Let's see if this can turn positive, last year it really took off once it flipped, let's hope for the same.

[KVB]

Here's the KVB NCAAF UPSET Basket after week 8 with links to each play and a closing line comparison.

This Fund had 6 plays going 1-5 for -3.7 units this week but was 4-2 against the close, beating the closing line by more than 11 cents...

	Date	NCAAF UPSET Basket	1 Unit	Closing	Beat	BTC ML
			per bet	Line	Closer?	Average
133	29-Aug	UCLA +140	-1	116	Y	0.25
137		FL INT +135	-1	128	Y	0.07
147	30-Aug	UTAH ST +150	-1	174	N	-0.24
175	31-Aug	MISSISSIPPI +145	-1	139	Y	0.06
193		SMU +140	1.4	105	Y	0.35
281		ILLINOIS ST +155	-1	220	N	-0.65
305	7-Sep	OHIO +160	-1	161	N	-0.01
317		SYRACUSE +115	-1	102	Y	0.13
343		ARKANSAS ST +115	1.15	-106	Y	0.21
355		N TEXAS +160	-1	152	Y	0.08
357		BYU +145	1.45	134	Y	0.11
385		STANFORD +135	-1	146	N	-0.11
401		KENNESAW ST -110	-1	165	N	-0.75
409		S ILLINOIS +145	1.45	190	N	-0.45
103	13-Sep	NC +150	-1	132	Y	0.18
125	14-Sep	AIR FORCE +155	1.55	130	Y	0.25
133		AKRON +140	-1	119	Y	0.21
153		IOWA -125	0.8	-123	N	-0.02
167		S MISS +130	1.3	130	PUSH	0.00
185		TCU +105	1.05	-155	Y	0.60
303	19-Sep	HOUSTON +155	-1	162	N	-0.07
321	21-Sep	UL LAFAYETTE +145	1.45	132	Y	0.13
343		MICHIGAN +150	-1	145	Y	0.05
347		N MEX ST +167	-1	159	Y	0.08
353		CAL -103	0.97	126	Y	0.29
357		GEORGIA ST +120	-1	119	Y	0.01
365		APP ST +140	1.4	109	Y	0.31
367		AUBURN +160	1.6	156	Y	0.04
369		WYOMING +135	-1	188	N	-0.53
105	27-Sep	DUKE +115	1.15	124	N	-0.09
123	28-Sep	BUFFALO +115	-1	-124	Y	0.39
137		MINNESOTA -110	0.91	108	N	-0.18
149		HAWAII +115	1.15	111	N	-0.04
157		KENTUCKY +110	-1	148	N	-0.38
165		K STATE +160	-1	165	N	-0.05
171		FAU -103	0.97	-126	Y	0.23
179		E CAROLNA -102	0.98	136	N	-0.38
197		HOUSTON +115	1.15	256	N	-1.41
321	5-Oct	BALL ST +160	1.6	152	Y	0.08
327		BAYLOR +110	1.1	-114	Y	0.24
343		ARIZONA +135	1.35	120	Y	0.15
367		W MICHIGAN +115	-1	106	Y	0.09
373		TCU +155	-1	137	Y	0.18
395		UTSA +105	1.05	-110	Y	0.15
101	9-Oct	APP ST +130	1.3	118	Y	0.12
107	10-Oct	SYRACUSE +155	-1	159	N	-0.04
109	11-Oct	VIRGINIA -103	-1	122	N	-0.25
123	12-Oct	NAVY +105	1.05	102	Y	0.03
141		BALL ST +102	1.02	102	PUSH	0.00
147		WASH ST +130	-1	-136	Y	0.66
181		SJST +125	-1	121	Y	0.04
197		FRESNO ST +155	-1	124	Y	0.31
317	19-Oct	DUKE +160	-1	149	Y	0.11
331		FLORIDA ST +125	-1	-136	Y	0.61
361		TOLEDO +110	-1	146	N	-0.36
383		S MISS +105	-1	-140	Y	0.45
389		BAYLOR +130	1.3	188	N	-0.58
395		TULANE +165	-1	121	Y	0.44
		Total	-0.35		36-20-2	0.019

A unit slide was predicted in this Fund and last week's -1.63 outing was compounded this week with the -3.7 unit week but we continue to see a rise in the sluggish closing line comparison.

This year's chart shows the slow steady rise in the closing comparison as the season has progressed even though we are basically even against the close for the season...



This isn't saying much and the two year chart shows why the bigger news is that we stopped the decline in the closing line comparison...





I posted the units chart there so we can see how the closing line comparison dropped at the end of last season and beginning of this season, with the units. Then the average continued to drop as the units rose.

As the units peaked and then dropped, the average has been recovering.

Units aside, this is a good sign as the closing line comparison has completed the "cycle" when lined up with the units.

But before we start doubling our bets, I want to bring up some technicals in an attempt to see the direction of the units.

[KVB]

Remember this chart? It showed how we get extra "legs" in whatever direction we are moving after those moving averages cross...



Let's look at current chart.



The line on the right side goes through the point where the moving averages cross and it crosses the line at 2.85 units, and consistent with the metric, the units dropped one more unit to 1.85 units before bouncing.

But let's be weary of that "bounce' we just saw.

I highlighted in yellow two other instances where we had further drops after similar to right now as it tends to happen here.

The other option is that a bounce up pushes through the averages and we see a sideways market of volatility, a similar situation is circled in red on the chart.

So the bad news is that we may not see a sharp rise here in this Fund and may even see a further drop while at best the outlook would be a small rise and sideways market before the next move one way or the other. Notice we may be in that 2-4 unit range, if we're lucky.

Let's see how the next set of plays play out but what I'm saying is there could some volatility ahead, as if we haven't seen some already here, but it may not go directly to the upside.

I know we have only tracked this Fund here since last year but I wanted to put the long chart up, to provide even more context. Looking at the chart, you can see the case to stay in the Fund, even through this near term volatility...

[KVB]

Here's the KVB NCAAF Visiting Dog Fund after week 8 with links to each play and a crude closing line comparison.

This Fund was 6-5, +.53 units this week but struggled against the closer going 5-5-1, only beating it by .05.

There was an error this week as I missed posting the Purdue +17.5, as mentioned after the game started, which turned out to be a winner...

				1 Unit	Closing	Beat	BTC
	Record	Date	NCAAF Visiting Dog Fund	per bet	Line	Closer?	Average
385	0-1	7-Sep	STANFORD +3.5 (-115)	-1	3	Y	0.5
387	1-1		CAL +14 (-110)	0.91	13.5	Y	0.5
401	1-2		KENNESAW ST +1.5 (-120)	-1	3.5	N	-2
423	1-3		G WEBB +28 (-120)	-1	31	N	-3
425	2-3		MAINE +10.5 (-120)	0.83	7.5	Y	3
427	2-4		NC A&T +29.5 (-120)	-1	27.5	Y	2
117	2-5	14-Sep	MIA (OH) +16 (-105)	-1	17	N	-1
133	2-6		AKRON +6 (-105)	-1	2.5	Y	3.5
147	3-6		UNLV +20 (-105)	0.95	18.5	Y	1.5
171	4-6		OHIO +5.5 (-105)	0.95	4	Y	1.5
225	5-6		WEBER ST +10 (-120)	0.83	7.5	Y	2.5
233	5-7		MISSOURI ST +29 (-120)	-1	31.5	N	-2.5
339	5-8	21-Sep	W MICHIGAN +5.5 (-110)	-1	3.5	Y	2
343	5-9		MICHIGAN +3 (+100)	-1	3	PUSH	0
361	5-10		KENTUCKY +6 (-102)	-1	6	PUSH	0
367	6-10		AUBURN +4 (-105)	0.95	4	PUSH	0
411	7-10		S ILLINOIS +21.5 (-120)	0.83	23	N	-1.5
111	8-10	27-Sep	ARIZONA ST +5.5 (-105)	0.95	4	Y	1.5
113	9-10	28-Sep	N' WESTERN +24 (-105)	0.95	23	Y	1
123	9-11		BUFFALO +2 (-110)	-1	2.5	N	-0.5
135	9-12		RUTGERS +27.5 (-110)	-1	27.5	PUSH	0
143	9-13		UNLV +9.5 (-105)	-1	8	Y	1.5
153	10-13		INDIANA +14.5 (-110)	0.91	14	Y	0.5
163	10-14		KANSAS +16 (-105)	-1	14.5	Y	1.5
167	10-15		MISS ST +11 (-105)	-1	7.5	Y	3.5
187	11-15		UTEP +25.5 (-110)	0.91	26	N	-0.5
325	12-15	5-Oct	PITT +5 (-107)	0.93	3.5	Y	1.5
337	13-15		V TECH +13.5 (-105)	0.95	14	N	-0.5
349	14-15		CAL +18 (-105)	0.95	21	N	-3
355	14-16		IOWA +4 (-105)	-1	4	PUSH	0
359	14-17		RICE +8.5 (-105)	-1	10	N	-1.5
361	15-17		N'WESTERN +7 (-110)	0.91	7.5	N	-0.5
373	15-18		TCU +4 (-105)	-1	3	Y	1
391	15-19		MICHIGAN ST +20 (-111)	-1	20	PUSH	0
109	15-20	11-Oct	VIRGINIA +3 (-115)	-1	2.5	Y	0.5
131	16-20	12-Oct	GTECH +18.5 (-105)	0.95	18	Y	0.5
143	17-20		ODU +14.5 (-110)	0.91	16.5	N	-2
163	18-20		ARKANSAS +7.5 (-110)	0.91	3.5	Y	4
175	19-20		UNLV +16.5 (-110)	0.91	15	Y	1.5
177	19-21		MICHIGAN ST +10.5 (-110)	-1	8	Y	2.5
181	20-21		SJST +4 (-110)	0.91	3	Y	1
205	21-21		WYOMING +4.5 (-105)	0.95	3.5	Y	1
317	21-22	19-Oct	DUKE +4 (-105)	-1	3.5	Y	0.5
319	22-22		G TECH +18 (-105)	0.95	18.5	N	-0.5
333	23-22		COAST CAR +7 (-125)	0.8	7	PUSH	0
339	24-22		TULSA +17.5 (-105)	0.95	16	Y	1.5
353	24-23		NEVADA +21.5 (-105)	-1	22.5	N	-1
359	24-24		ARIZONA ST +13.5 (-105)	-1	16	N	-2.5
365	25-24		OREGON ST +11.5 (-105)	0.95	10.5	Y	1
375	26-24		KENTUCKY +25 (-105)	0.95	24	Y	1
385	26-25		ODU +16 (-105)	-1	16.5	N	-0.5
411	26-26		CHARLOTTE +9 (-102)	-1	9.5	N	-0.5
421	27-26		MICHIGAN +9 (-107)	0.93	7.5	Y	1.5
	27-26		Total	-1.22		29-17-7	0.415

Remember, as a crude comparison we want to be better than .5 points against the close and this Fund finished at better than .6 against the close last year.

This year the Fund is averaging .415 against the close but combined with last year, it is still averaging .548 against the close.

We should keep an eye on that closing performance and should expect to see it improve as this Fund turns positive in units.

Here's the unit chart since last year and the Fund has come back from a low of -6.29 for this season...

[KVB]

Here's the KVB NCAAF Visiting Dog ML Fund after week 8 with links to each play and a closing line comparison.

This Fund had 14 plays this week for -2.9 units. It was 7-7 against the closer for -.18 average against it this week.

The haymaker fund also should have had Baylor trigger at +170 this week, but was mistakenly omitted as mentioned before, which was a winner...

	Date	NCAAF Visting Dog ML	1 Unit	Closing	Beat	BTC ML
			per bet	Line	Closer?	Average
361	7-Sep	W KENTUCKY +265	2.65	262	Y	0.03
373		ARKANSAS +230	-1	194	Y	0.36
387		CAL +415	4.15	447	Y	0.32
133	14-Sep	AKRON +195	-1	119	Y	0.21
139		E CAROLINA +235	-1	237	N	-0.02
189		FLORIDA ST +240	-1	241	N	-0.01
307	20-Sep	FL INT +275	-1	222	Y	0.53
309		AIR FORCE +260	-1	274	N	-0.14
351	21-Sep	COLORADO +240	2.4	260	N	-0.20
361		KENTUCKY +230	-1	196	Y	0.34
371		S CAROLINA +290	-1	308	N	-0.18
375		OK ST +170	-1	241	N	-0.71
377		BGSU +290	-1	328	N	-0.38
393		LOUISVILLE +265	-1	205	Y	0.60
103	26-Sep	NAVY +320	-1	326	N	-0.06
111	27-Sep	ARIZONA ST +180	1.8	173	Y	0.07
127	28-Sep	NC ST +160	-1	212	N	-0.52
143		UNLV +310	-1	281	Y	0.29
145		WASH ST +210	-1	188	Y	0.22
167		MISS ST +325	-1	258	Y	0.67
183		ARKANSAS ST +215	2.15	215	PUSH	0.00
201		USC +315	-1	380	N	-0.65
203		UCLA +245	-1	138	Y	1.07
309	4-Oct	N MEXICO +220	-1	211	Y	0.09
313	5-Oct	BC +160	-1	156	Y	0.04
321		BALL ST +184	1.84	152	Y	0.32
325		PITT +175	1.75	151	Y	0.24
337		V TECH +415	4.15	447	N	-0.32
347		OREGON ST +190	1.9	163	Y	0.27
353		TULSA +370	-1	351	Y	0.19
355		IOWA +170	-1	174	N	-0.04
357		ILLINOIS +425	-1	427	N	-0.02
359		RICE +270	-1	318	N	-0.48
361		N'WESTERN +230	-1	258	N	-0.28
375		VANDY +225	-1	214	Y	0.11
121	12-Oct	LOUISVILLE +210	2.1	216	N	-0.06
129		NEBRASKA +230	-1	244	N	-0.14
133		GA ST +220	2.2	143	Y	0.77
139		HAWAII +340	-1	356	N	-0.16
153		MISSISSIPPI +340	-1	369	N	-0.29
161		N ILLINOIS +210	2.1	177	Y	0.33
163		ARKANSAS +240	-1	168	Y	0.72
165		T TECH +310	-1	314	N	-0.04
167		MIA (OH) +415	-1	376	Y	0.39
177		MICH ST +310	-1	296	Y	0.14
179		FLORIDA +400	-1	450	N	-0.50
185		M TENN ST +345	-1	353	N	-0.08
189		N TEXAS +170	-1	123	Y	0.47
193		CHARLOTTE +180	-1	195	N	-0.15
205		WYOMING +165	-1	154	Y	0.11
307	17-Oct	UCLA +290	2.9	159	Y	1.31
309	18-Oct	MARSHALL +180	1.8	150	Y	0.30
315		UNLV +425	-1	537	N	-1.12
333	19-Oct	COAST CAR +195	-1	237	N	-0.42
345		KENT +240	-1	253	N	-0.13
359		ARIZONA ST +415	-1	533	N	-1.18
365		OREGON ST +340	3.4	325	Y	0.15
369		ARIZONA +275	-1	350	N	-0.75
371		COLORADO +415	-1	381	Y	0.34
403		S FLORIDA +370	-1	527	N	-1.57
411		CHARLOTTE +320	-1	275	Y	0.45
413		M TENN ST +275	-1	228	Y	0.47
417		TEMPLE +220	-1	273	N	-0.53
421		MICHIGAN +240	-1	250	Y	0.10
		Total	-11.71		33-30-1	0.014

With such big moneylines you just never know over the short term how the average comparison will play out. In this case it has been pretty much even with the closer this season.

Sure, the units have dropped again and the charts show the same. I know this is the first year of this Fund but we are on it this year because of last year's drop. Here's the two year chart...



This chart pattern, for a market function, may not be as bad as it looks. Remember these are haymakers and we endure droughts before the larger moneylines pay out.

So when are we getting the rise? Even with Baylor +170, when combined, this Fund equals nearly half of the NCAAF Family of Funds' losses.

Well, through 64 plays this season, this Fund has 15 losses giving us a win percentage of 23%.

Here are the win percentages and units through the years...

Year	%	Units
2018	0.26	-7.00
2017	0.28	4.54
2016	0.33	27.15
2015	0.31	13.86
2014	0.33	30.49
2013	0.27	-3.18
2012	0.24	-18.07
2011	0.30	15.35
2010	0.35	41.83
2009	0.24	-10.01
2008	0.27	1.78
2006	0.26	3.28
2005	0.38	59.98

If we remove 2005 we get average percentage of 29 and the median there is 28. It's never closed lower than 24 percent so we could and should have potential for upside here.

All it takes is that one week of upsets, and not like 30 point upsets, like Wisky, but some of those games that are more within range on this Funds target circle, to get back many of these units.

As the market rotates away from the Wisky's and Georgia's, we should be able to catch what's next. If not, we could see this venture go well into next year before we see profit...

[KVB]

Here's the KVB NCAAF Family of Funds Summary of Summaries.

There were 41 plays for week 8 for a loss of -7.38 units...

NCAAF	Week 8		Season	to Date
Funds	# Plays	Units	# Plays	Units
Totals	3	-1.13	28	-7.59
ATS/ML	7	-0.18	51	-4.32
UPSET Basket	6	-3.7	58	-0.35
Visiting Dog	11	0.53	53	-1.22
Visiting Dog ML	14	-2.9	64	-11.71
Total:	41	-7.38	254	-25.19

[KVB]

Here are the win/loss records for the Funds that have Spreads and Totals through week 8 this season and combined with last year...

2019...

NCAAF	Season	to Date		ATS and Totals Records			Win %	% + Tie
Funds	# Plays	Units		W	L	P
Totals	28	-7.59		10	17	1	0.370	0.357
ATS/ML	51	-4.32		23	26	2	0.469	0.451
UPSET Basket	58	-0.35
Visiting Dog	53	-1.22		27	26		0.509	0.509
Visiting Dog ML	64	-11.71
Total:	254	-25.19		60	69	3	0.465	0.455

Again slightly up from the week before, but this time it's very slight...

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28983592

Here are the records of the current Funds going back to last year (Note I say current Funds because it does not include the Market Reads Fund that isn't being tracked this year)...

2018-Present...

2018-Present	ATS and Totals Records			Win %	% + Tie
NCAAF Funds	W	L	P
Totals	84	79	2	0.515	0.509
ATS/ML	75	59	4	0.560	0.543
UPSET Basket
Visiting Dog	79	56	1	0.585	0.581
Visiting Dog ML
Total:	238	194	7	0.551	0.542

Some guy in the Think Tank said he didn't think there was anyone at SBR that could hit 55% over 300 plays. Last year it was 57.6% over 314 plays and while this year it's pulled back a bit, I believe he is wrong.

That poster probably didn't think she was going to get these pulled up...

[KVB]

...

NCAAF	Week 8		Season	to Date
Funds	# Plays	Units	# Plays	Units
Totals	3	-1.13	28	-7.59
ATS/ML	7	-0.18	51	-4.32
UPSET Basket	6	-3.7	58	-0.35
Visiting Dog	11	0.53	53	-1.22
Visiting Dog ML	14	-2.9	64	-11.71
Total:	41	-7.38	254	-25.19

...

One last thing here.

Here's how it ended last season...

NCAAF	2018-19	Season
Funds	# Plays	Units
Totals	137	7.58
ATS/ML	92	13.01
UPSET Basket	126	2.5
Visiting Dog	83	18.73
Market Reads	14	-6.02
Total:	452	35.8

Here's where the Funds were after week 8 last year....

NCAAF	Week 8		Season	to Date
Funds	# Plays	Units	# Plays	Units
Totals	13	-1.32	83	1.48
ATS/ML	8	3.71	58	1.24
UPSET Basket	10	-0.18	66	0.15
Visiting Dog	11	0.67	40	10.39
Market Reads	0	0	11	-3.02
Total:	42	2.88	258	10.24

We saw a 25 units rise after week 8 last year with the Market Reads Fund going -3 units during that time.

It would be nice to see that again but clearly the haymaker fund is going to be a defining factor in that.

Still, some things would be nice to see again...

[KVB]

The KVB NBA Contrarian Fund, but I may combine Funds for NBA, has picked up...

517		13-Oct	NY/SA over 214 (-110)
521			OKC +9 (-105)

[turtledoves]

sex sells

[KVB]

sex sells

The NBA needs to rethink their WNBA investment. They might get a better return on their money with a simple uniform change.



I suppose when it comes down to it, we'd all watch the Hula Hoop league if they all dress right...

[KVB]

I'm out for a while, shit to do and having a terrible time with neuritis. May need to cancel a trip to Tahoe because of it.