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    Quote Originally Posted by jt315 View Post
    He says there were two tests then when I ask him to find the other he says I’m not looking for something I don’t know for sure exists .

    see here it is in black and white. you are wrong again, I am assuming you are getting accustomed to being wrong.

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    New study--bad drug--dated may 22nd. Lol

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    you take the bag of fresh shit and you push it in their face and they produce #70


    neither one has any shame, but they are two really stupid individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dante1 View Post
    New study--bad drug--dated may 22nd. Lol


    Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says

    1 day ago ·
    An analysis of 96000 patients shows those treated with hydroxychloroquine were also more ... for seriously ill patients who were hospitalized or for whom a clinical trial was not



    Here’s another article you dumb f**k . What does the bold say ?

    Time to put on those sneakers Forrest .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dante1 View Post
    see here it is in black and white. you are wrong again, I am assuming you are getting accustomed to being wrong.
    Have you found the March test yet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt315 View Post


    Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says

    1 day ago ·
    An analysis of 96000 patients shows those treated with hydroxychloroquine were also more ... for seriously ill patients who were hospitalized or for whom a clinical trial was not



    Here’s another article you dumb f**k . What does the bold say ?

    Time to put on those sneakers Forrest .
    Yeah, it was that OTHER Lancet study of exactly 96,000 seriously ill COVID patients.....

    Dante, just stop. It’s enough already.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Yeah, it was that OTHER Lancet study of exactly 96,000 seriously ill COVID patients.....

    Dante, just stop. It’s enough already.....



    He just started another thread looking for some help .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt315 View Post

    You can’t really be this stupid .

    And you have company .

    Show me any other study with results published by Lancet besides the one yesterday .

    FACT CHECK:



    Since you chose to challenge me too,



    1/ THE LANCET Published: May 22, 2020

    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis


    NOTE the authors are: Mehra, Desai, Ruschitzcka, and Patel (all MDs)
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext






    2/ THE LANCET Published: April 15, 2020


    Hydroxychloroquine in the management
    of critically ill patients with COVID-19:
    the need for an evidence base


    NOTE the authors are: Taccone, Gorham, and Vincent
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...172-7/fulltext







    3/ THE LANCET Published: April 17, 2020

    Chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine
    for prophylaxis of COVID-19




    Note the authors are: Susanna Esposito
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...296-6/fulltext




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    Last edited by mezmurized2; 05-23-20 at 07:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezmurized2 View Post
    FACT CHECK:



    Since you chose to challenge me too,



    1/ THE LANCET Published: May 22, 2020

    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis


    NOTE the authors are: Mehra, Desai, Ruschitzcka, and Patel (all MDs)
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext






    2/ THE LANCET Published: April 15, 2020


    Hydroxychloroquine in the management
    of critically ill patients with COVID-19:
    the need for an evidence base


    NOTE the authors are: Taccone, Gorham, and Vincent
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...172-7/fulltext







    3/ THE LANCET Published: April 17, 2020

    Chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine
    for prophylaxis of COVID-19




    Note the authors are: Susanna Esposito
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...296-6/fulltext




    .

    .

    Originally Posted by dante1
    so you are claiming it is still the same study. well if so tell me why did every news outlet report on it the same day months and months after that first study was accomplished. that is particularly confusing, is it not.

    no my friend this was a huge study involving 5 or 6 countries.





    Hey wannabe . Do any of those involve a study of 96,000 people across several countries involving seriously ill people ?




    96 032 patients (mean age 53·8 years, 46·3% women) with COVID-19 were hospitalised during the study period and met the inclusion criteria. Of these, 14 888 patients were in the treatment groups (1868 received chloroquine, 3783 received chloroquine with a macrolide, 3016 received hydroxychloroquine, and 6221 received hydroxychloroquine with a macrolide) and 81 144 patients were in the control group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt315 View Post
    Show me any other study

    with results
    published by Lancet

    besides the one yesterday
    .




    FACT CHECK:


    1/ THE LANCET Published: May 22, 2020

    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis


    NOTE the authors are: Mehra, Desai, Ruschitzcka, and Patel (all MDs)
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext






    2/ THE LANCET Published: April 15, 2020


    Hydroxychloroquine in the management
    of critically ill patients with COVID-19:
    the need for an evidence base



    NOTE the authors are: Taccone, Gorham, and Vincent
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...172-7/fulltext






    3/ THE LANCET Published: April 17, 2020

    Chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine
    for prophylaxis of COVID-19




    Note the authors are: Susanna Esposito
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...296-6/fulltext
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezmurized2 View Post


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    FACT CHECK:


    1/ THE LANCET Published: May 22, 2020

    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis


    NOTE the authors are: Mehra, Desai, Ruschitzcka, and Patel (all MDs)
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext






    2/ THE LANCET Published: April 15, 2020


    Hydroxychloroquine in the management
    of critically ill patients with COVID-19:
    the need for an evidence base



    NOTE the authors are: Taccone, Gorham, and Vincent
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...172-7/fulltext






    3/ THE LANCET Published: April 17, 2020

    Chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine
    for prophylaxis of COVID-19




    Note the authors are: Susanna Esposito
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...296-6/fulltext
    .
    Not to rain on your parade, but take a look at all the “references” at the bottom of each of your “different” trials. Maybe different dates posted, but it’s all the same trial.

    Happy Memorial Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Not to rain on your parade, but take a look at all the “references” at the bottom of each of your “different” trials. Maybe different dates posted, but it’s all the same trial.

    Happy Memorial Day!
    Not to be picky
    but different authors, for what reads as DIFFERENT observational studies which are NOT identical
    but do share some information about "other studies"
    Bottom line.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mezmurized2 View Post
    Not to be picky
    but different authors, for what reads as DIFFERENT observational studies which are NOT identical
    but do share some information about "other studies"
    Bottom line.



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    .


    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis

    WTF do you think “A multinational registry analysis” means?

    And seriously - think about it before you respond.....

    Please.....

    Seriously.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis

    WTF do you think “A multinational registry analysis” means?

    And seriously - think about it before you respond.....

    Please.....

    Seriously.....
    Seriously.
    This is what it means





    FACT CHECK:


    1/ THE LANCET Published: May 22, 2020

    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis


    NOTE the authors are: Mehra, Desai, Ruschitzcka, and Patel (all MDs)
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext






    2/ THE LANCET Published: April 15, 2020


    Hydroxychloroquine in the management
    of critically ill patients with COVID-19:
    the need for an evidence base



    NOTE the authors are: Taccone, Gorham, and Vincent
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...172-7/fulltext






    3/ THE LANCET Published: April 17, 2020

    Chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine
    for prophylaxis of COVID-19




    Note the authors are: Susanna Esposito
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...296-6/fulltext

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis

    WTF do you think “A multinational registry analysis” means?

    And seriously - think about it before you respond.....

    Please.....

    Seriously.....
    you are talking to a guy who calls the president "Adolf"

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    .....
    Quote Originally Posted by mezmurized2 View Post
    Seriously.
    This is what it means





    FACT CHECK:


    1/ THE LANCET Published: May 22, 2020

    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine
    with or without a macrolide for
    treatment of COVID-19:
    a multinational registry analysis


    NOTE the authors are: Mehra, Desai, Ruschitzcka, and Patel (all MDs)
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext






    2/ THE LANCET Published: April 15, 2020


    Hydroxychloroquine in the management
    of critically ill patients with COVID-19:
    the need for an evidence base



    NOTE the authors are: Taccone, Gorham, and Vincent
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...172-7/fulltext






    3/ THE LANCET Published: April 17, 2020

    Chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine
    for prophylaxis of COVID-19




    Note the authors are: Susanna Esposito
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...296-6/fulltext

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    https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/22/...hat-it-doesnt/

    {The study, which was published in the Lancet, cannot answer the question of whether or not hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can help patients fight off Covid-19 or whether the drugs increase or decrease the death rates in those patients. Those answers can only come from large studies in which patients are randomly assigned to either receive the drugs or a placebo. Dozens of such studies are ongoing.}

    IT'S
    THE
    SAME
    MUTHAFU##IN'
    STUDY!

    STOP
    IT
    ALREADY!

    Not only that, results were inconclusive - and, there's other better controlled studies currently going on worldwide.

    Happy Memorial Day.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    Costa Rica has been using this drug rather successfully to treat COVID.

    https://qcostarica.com/hydroxychloro...ight-covid-19/
    I dont think Costa Rica is using it successfully to treat Covid patients. At least according to thelink you posted it says they’re giving it to patients that have mild to moderate symptoms to prevent them from progressing to severe. The reality is a very large majority people never get severely sick, so if you give the drug to people that aren’t severely sick, and aren’t likely to get severely sick, it could appear the drug is working

    On the flip side of that coin, the link that Dante posted this AM in another thread shows the drug has an increase in mortality. The problem with some of the studies in that cohort was that they were giving the drug to really sick people moreso than mild and moderately sick people, so it showed more people that received the medication died more often, thus an increase in mortality. Problem is, once you get severely sick from Covid you already have a fairly high mortality risk

    Its not easy to build proper studies and account for all the variables to come up with a meaningful conclusion, especially when patients are very sick because informed consent becomes an issue. Ultimately the researchers end up just analyzing all the data retrospectively and thats not the proper way to do a study

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    And where is Dante getting buried, JT??? Quite the opposite

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    And where is Dante getting buried, JT??? Quite the opposite
    Read post #32 .

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