[sourtwist]

Lol...lost what argument?

You're re buried here kid, and your grammar sucks while calling other people stupid. You can't call people stupid while you're doing something stupid. I don't know how you get by in life. You're the type of piece of shit person who would give someone the finger after cutting them off instead of apologizing. You're a scumbag.

If i had to guess, you're no older than 24, and your liking of the word for the male genitalia is kind of disgusting, use the work dick or rooster...you use the P word several times in your rant that sounds like it's coming from a 16 year old homo who just took his first load. Don't fukking talk to me about dicks anymore, ok fruitcake?

[sourtwist]

Kraken, you see what I have to deal with? I don't even know where this fukkbag came from. Kid needs a bitchslap. Thanks for starting this thread, otherwise I would have never met jayflylikefruittyguy

[rkelly110]

Don't know what's up with jayfly, he used to be a good guy. He's trolling you hard, sour.

[jayfly]

Don't know what's up with jayfly, he used to be a good guy. He's trolling you hard, sour.

I am a good guy lol, i just dislike limp dick clueless idiots like sour. Buried? lol

[Jayvegas420]

Yeah JFly. I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Twister. You seem irritated & you aren't being productive in this thread.


Also Kraker. I get the impression that you are saying, " Doing nothing is better than doing something."
Of course black markets emerge when there's Prohibition.
But.....in other countries where guns of all types are prohibited, they/we aren't killing people daily with guns.
You guys have such rampant access to guns that you are killing over 100 a day with them.
100 a day.

No other country has this problem & I'm supposed to beleive that it has nothing to do with the obscene availability of guns in the US


I'm sorry Kraker, I'm just not buying it.

If I got the wrong impression, I'm sorry.

But when consertaves use that argument to suit the gun agenda I can never help bit to wonder why liberal don't apply it to the pot issue.
Everyone seems to bend & contort the Constitution to suit their own agenda & they abandon its principals when it doesn't suit them.

[jayfly]

I am not trying to be productive lol, I just want to impress upon sour what an idiot he is

[sourtwist]

It's OK jayfly, it's not the first time a gay boy chased me around. It's nice to get attention no matter where it comes from.

[jayfly]

it's not the first time a gay boy chased me around.

Prob the most accurate thing you have ever said, no wonder you are referred to as twist lmao

[sourtwist]

Lol, I made the name idiot. It was not referred to me. You're dumb as a brick.

[brainfreeze]

Lol, I made the name idiot. It was not referred to me. You're dumb as a brick.

Why entertain him sourtwist, ...

[sourtwist]

Why entertain him sourtwist, ...

Honestly, I'm not sure. I'll ignore him. Thanks for waking me up. Been a while, hope all is well with you.

[brainfreeze]

Honestly, I'm not sure. I'll ignore him. Thanks for waking me up. Been a while, hope all is well with you.

Yes sir, everything is good.

[jayfly]

Lol, I made the name idiot. It was not referred to me. You're dumb as a brick.

Wow you got me good that time twist lmao

[recon1]

if you think we evolved from monkeys, you dont have a clue about evolution...
can i prove there is no god? i know 100% that the god, as depicted in the infamous bible, is fictional... science proves the earths age, the age of its inhabitants, Long before the bible would lead you to believe that adam and eve were first... throw in the FACT that every single "miracle" has been scientifically explained or 100% completely debunked and you have a fictional book, much like all the others...sure there might be a few things sprinkled in, that occurred in those days, but what you have is a proven fictional book = fictional characters = no bible god ... set aside some incredibly illogical biblical threats for one instance and think like an adult...

big bang, who knows, but sure a shit makes more logical and scientific sense than a magic man creator...shit out there is who know how many billions of years old and endless... evolution makes sense, considering the time... evolution has fossils to back up the claims... god has an ancient book, written and rewritten over thousands of years, by tons of different authors, with tons of interpretations written to please certain people... its no more evidence of a magic man than a harry potter book... religion is embarrassing the world with idiocy...

Good-luck ray dog, and i truly mean a well wish towards you. You have chosen to learn the difficult lesson and your types are talked about. Man is corrupt and you choose to invest in them.
It's absolutely insane to debate big bangs, monkey evolution, dinosaurs, ice age etc. they've all been proven flawed theories.
You will have a moment and time where you and your ideologies will appear to be 'winning' and this is the even bigger deception.

Good-luck

[recon1]

Wow, an astute intellect, you have provoked some deep thoughts that i'll need to ponder.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Wow, an astute intellect, you have provoked some deep thoughts that i'll need to ponder.

It sounds like you have enough to ponder without my contributions.

[recon1]

Good, informative post. I havent checked out the links yet but I will. I was being short-sighted, or more narrow sighted.

I was simply addressing the basic concept that if the government were to outlaw guns, it would only cause a lot of good otherwise law abiding citizens to become instant criminals because they're hiding guns they've safely owned for years. But you already understand this, as do most other people. Prohibition didn't work and created one hell of a black market. This would be no different.

i know these numbers are arbitrary number but I bet 90% of politicians own guns. And I bet at least 66% of Americans own a gun. The NRA is a huge, very powerful lobby. The short of it is, as you said, our guns are fine.

And if the gov't came for my guns, they could buy my AR-15's if they really wanted them. In reality, they could have them, I wouldn't risk my freedom for them. I would however keep my shotgun, a 9mm and my 40 and 45. The difference between those funs is that they serve a purpose, they are for my safety. The AR's aren't.

You like your freedom so you'd give up your AR's?

Kraken, do you harbor those weapons because deep down you think maybe in the remote possibility things pop-off in this country you could join some type resistance that identifies Christians as the enemy?

Kraken in nutshell:

- Is a quasi Communist via Socialist first.

- Is a schedule one user

- Talks of hatefulness of Christians

- Thinks that somehow white people are guilty of the socioeconomic disposition of others.

- Most liberals with the so far mentioned attributes do not own firearms, but ones who do are known as the "Militant order"

- The fact is: you bought a firearm and had to answer a specific question on an application. The question is do you use narcotics? you answered "no" or you would not own those firearms. Therefore, you are in an unlawful possesion of firearms and you criminally circumvented a safety net in place to stop people who consume narcotics from owning peacemakers. In your hands these firearms are known as: 'Another criminal on narcotics murdering'.

- People like me, Sourtwist, kvb, brain freeze would own weapons for noble causes and you not for noble causes.

It's your types who have been doing the shootings lately, not my kind.
I encourage you to go to your local Police station and turn in those firearms, you do not own them for good causes and while on those Schedule I's you are a time bomb waiting to happen.

think about it!

Just talkin' on the real.

[sourtwist]

Yeah JFly. I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Twister. You seem irritated & you aren't being productive in this thread.


Also Kraker. I get the impression that you are saying, " Doing nothing is better than doing something."
Of course black markets emerge when there's Prohibition.
But.....in other countries where guns of all types are prohibited, they/we aren't killing people daily with guns.
You guys have such rampant access to guns that you are killing over 100 a day with them.
100 a day.

No other country has this problem & I'm supposed to beleive that it has nothing to do with the obscene availability of guns in the US


I'm sorry Kraker, I'm just not buying it.

If I got the wrong impression, I'm sorry.

But when consertaves use that argument to suit the gun agenda I can never help bit to wonder why liberal don't apply it to the pot issue.
Everyone seems to bend & contort the Constitution to suit their own agenda & they abandon its principals when it doesn't suit them.

Your first paragraph..... I don't even know what to say.

It makes me realize that even though most of us have a difference of opinion, we can still agree on some things that are in plain sight.

[sourtwist]

Good-luck ray dog, and i truly mean a well wish towards you. You have chosen to learn the difficult lesson and your types are talked about. Man is corrupt and you choose to invest in them.
It's absolutely insane to debate big bangs, monkey evolution, dinosaurs, ice age etc. they've all been proven flawed theories.
You will have a moment and time where you and your ideologies will appear to be 'winning' and this is the even bigger deception.

Good-luck

Brother, you have taken us to a new depth that most cannot even try to explain.

[greenhippo]

It sounds like you have enough to ponder without my contributions.

Mo, this is a guy who thinks dinosaurs are a flawed theory. Dinosaurs, only a theory. There is a level of such low intellect I couldn't imagine being half that low in order to get into any further discussion with someone who thinks dinosaurs are a theory. Scary, scary shit this person is allowed behind the wheel of a car, literally putting countless people's lives in danger.

[recon1]

Mo, this is a guy who thinks dinosaurs are a flawed theory. Dinosaurs, only a theory. There is a level of such low intellect I couldn't imagine being half that low in order to get into any further discussion with someone who thinks dinosaurs are a theory. Scary, scary shit this person is allowed behind the wheel of a car, literally putting countless people's lives in danger.

No, no, no my blind friend. The atheist think since dinosaurs are not mentioned in the bible that the bible is flawed. Did dinosaurs roam the earth? yes and so did lots of animal creatures that aren't mentioned.

I know you wanted so hard to make a point, but failed again….sorry, maybe next time idiot.

[recon1]

Brother, you have taken us to a new depth that most cannot even try to explain.

Thanks, heads up Brother

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Mo, this is a guy who thinks dinosaurs are a flawed theory. Dinosaurs, only a theory. There is a level of such low intellect I couldn't imagine being half that low in order to get into any further discussion with someone who thinks dinosaurs are a theory. Scary, scary shit this person is allowed behind the wheel of a car, literally putting countless people's lives in danger.

People can choose to believe what they want I guess. It has no effect on my life. That is really what is important.

Just seems so illogical. Maybe I just don't get it.

So glad that the vast majority of people under 40 up here don't ever think about this kinda stuff let alone debate it.

[brainfreeze]

People can choose to believe what they want I guess. It has no effect on my life. That is really what is important.

Just seems so illogical. Maybe I just don't get it.

So glad that the vast majority of people under 40 up here don't ever think about this kinda stuff let alone debate it.

Sad really, stand for nothing and fall for anything...
what do the vast majority around you discuss Mo ?

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Sad really, stand for nothing and fall for anything...
what do the vast majority around you discuss Mo ?

Anything and everything but religion.

Weather

Clothing fabric

Recipes

Alarm Clocks

18th century Tuscany

Don't you think it is naive to assume that one who is not religious stands for nothing?

Why must one stand for anything?

[brainfreeze]

See Mo, in our Declaration of Independence here in America ...God is a big part of that.

in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

[muldoon]

Sad really, stand for nothing and fall for anything...
what do the vast majority around you discuss Mo ?

The former scumbag drug dealer sits in judgement of others who didn't feel the need/guilt to fall into a fantasy belief (cult like) system from the bronze age to try rationalize previous life choices.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

See Mo, in our Declaration of Independence here in America ...God is a big part of that.

in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

I know, Freezer.

I have studied American History rather extensively, most because it is much more interesting than Canadian.

But this doesn't mean the belief is anymore valid. It was a different time in which life was much more fragile and cheap. I just don't think it holds the same weight in the modern age.

[brainfreeze]

Anything and everything but religion.

Weather

Clothing fabric

Recipes

Alarm Clocks

18th century Tuscany

Don't you think it is naive to assume that one who is not religious stands for nothing?

Why must one stand for anything?

Well without God, there is no purpose. I understand your position because at one point I didn't have to much faith either. What I mean by falling for anything, if we don't search out the truths for ourselves, we are bound to accept any half truths from a third party, and forming thoughts and molding ideas from another mans philosophy.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Well without God, there is no purpose. I understand your position because at one point I didn't have to much faith either. What I mean by falling for anything, if we don't search out the truths for ourselves, we are bound to accept any half truths from a third party, and forming thoughts and molding ideas from another mans philosophy.

But isn't that the same as belief in a god? Molding ideas from another mans philosophy?

I attempt to form my truth based on my empirical experience. How cannot I believe that which I have not seen for myself?

[brainfreeze]

I know, Freezer.

I have studied American History rather extensively, most because it is much more interesting than Canadian.

But this doesn't mean the belief is anymore valid. It was a different time in which life was much more fragile and cheap. I just don't think it holds the same weight in the modern age.

It means that, that document is valid and the people that fought and died for the words on that document is valid. The document is not time sensitive, it held true in 1776 as it does now...

[brainfreeze]

But isn't that the same as belief in a god? Molding ideas from another mans philosophy?

I attempt to form my truth based on my empirical experience. How cannot I believe that which I have not seen for myself?

Gods Word is pure, the Spirit speaks like no other, If we immerse ourselves into his Words, we fill ourselves with truth and His love. This overtime with the Spirt involved will show us things, giving us better understanding of God, and others. This will also give us different experiences, choices, and perceptions.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

It means that, that document is valid and the people that fought and died for the words on that document is valid. The document is not time sensitive, it held true in 1776 as it does now...

But that's an opinion. Not an objective truth.

People have fought and died for plenty of things that we now all accept as false. I understand why you feel the way you do and am not trying to push your buttons. We are both likely set in our ways and nothing anyone says or does will change that.

But closed mindedness is equally dangerous whether one is right or wrong.

[brainfreeze]

But that's an opinion. Not an objective truth.

People have fought and died for plenty of things that we now all accept as false. I understand why you feel the way you do and am not trying to push your buttons. We are both likely set in our ways and nothing anyone says or does will change that.

But closed mindedness is equally dangerous whether one is right or wrong.

I don't understand how people don't think there is more to life then what meets the eye or that they wake up everyday see the trees, squirrels, birds, and butterflies and say all this just bing bang came from nothing, why not thank the Artist, the Creator, God. No, we'd rather look at a Rembrandt and say how awesome he is for drawing these things.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

I don't understand how people don't think there is more to life then what meets the eye or that they wake up everyday see the trees, squirrels, birds, and butterflies and say all this just bing bang came from nothing, why not thank the Artist, the Creator, God. No, we'd rather look at a Rembrandt and say how awesome he is for drawing these things.

Because if I have not seen it for myself then I Ian forming my thoughts and beliefs around something some one just told me to believe.

How could I verify the existence of something I have not experienced.

I am not one for art and I don't think I have ever applauded rembradts work but it's probably pretty good.