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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn View Post
    Because if I have not seen it for myself then I Ian forming my thoughts and beliefs around something some one just told me to believe.

    How could I verify the existence of something I have not experienced.

    I am not one for art and I don't think I have ever applauded rembradts work but it's probably pretty good.
    I will refer back to post #207 for a response here

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    Quote Originally Posted by recon1 View Post
    You like your freedom so you'd give up your AR's?

    Kraken, do you harbor those weapons because deep down you think maybe in the remote possibility things pop-off in this country you could join some type resistance that identifies Christians as the enemy?
    I have already answered the question as to why I own the guns. I was very honest in my answers. The AR's I bought at a time I could re-sell them and make money, and I did. I just ended up with a few extras. I love shooting them but I don't need them. The rest of the guns serve a purpose. I could care less about Christianity, I am not a Christian, I don't believe in god, maybe there is a god maybe not, but on a given month, I probably think about Christianity on average of less than 30 seconds.

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    Kraken in nutshell:
    Is a quasi Communist via Socialist first.
    Socialist yes, communist no

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    Is a schedule one user
    I tried cocaine one time and hated it, that certainly doesn't make me a user. "User" implies continued using, I will never do coke again. Oxy is a schedule 2 medication and I take it under the care of a physician and have it prescribed legally. I feel sorry that you view pain meds as having a negative stigma attached to them when so many people in the world are physically dependent upon them. Not because of addiction but because of chronic pain, botched surgeries, accidents etc.... dont' be so quick to judge unless you've experienced years of pain like I have.
    Quote Originally Posted by recon1 View Post
    Talks of hatefulness of Christians
    Again, I don't hate christians, you're putting words in my mouth. I am not a christian and I personally think the religion is silly. But many of my closest family and friends are christians and I love them all, regardless of their religious affiliations. I have even said two of my favorite posters here are Sour and Brainfreeze, despite our differences of opinions about religion. Life is more than religion and I find that many times I agree with them, they're interesting and I have a feeling if I were to meet either of them in real life we would probably ignore our religious differences, find common interests and get along great. You, I'm not so sure about, you seem more judgmental and I'm not sure you could set our differences aside, or recognize that regardless how strongly you feel about something, you may be wrong.

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    Thinks that somehow white people are guilty of the socioeconomic disposition of others.
    White privilege is real whether you want to recognize it or not. It doesn't mean you've done anything to promote it, nor have I, but we benefit from being born white. Beyond that, yes, we set African Americans back decasdes, if not centuries by enslaving them and neglecting them fundamental education. They have yet to recover. So ya, we are partially responsible.

    Quote Originally Posted by recon1 View Post
    The fact is: you bought a firearm and had to answer a specific question on an application. The question is do you use narcotics? you answered "no" or you would not own those firearms. Therefore, you are in an unlawful possesion of firearms and you criminally circumvented a safety net in place to stop people who consume narcotics from owning peacemakers. In your hands these firearms are known as: 'Another criminal on narcotics murdering'.
    You just show how little you know about the process of owning a gun. I have filled out applications in multiple states and each one I said "yes", that I do take narcotics and I provided my PCP's information. I have never been denied a gun, I have a clean record and and it's all legal. You are 100% wrong here.

    Quote Originally Posted by recon1 View Post
    People like me, Sourtwist, kvb, brain freeze would own weapons for noble causes and you not for noble causes.
    There are 50 shades of grey, not everything is black and white. People like you own guns out of fear, as do I. I don't want to be eaten by a grizzly, I fear that, so when I hike in grizzly country, I carry bear spray and a 45cal. But at least I can admit it. I fear someone will break into my house one night and I won't be able to protect my pregnant wife, so I own a 40cal handgun that stays next to my bed. This coming from someone that has done years of boxing and BJJ. In a street fight, I'd hold my own, in my house with my families life on the line, I want a gun next to me. I think those intentions are noble enough. I do not however factor in owning guns just because I have a right to. I could care less about that aspect of it. You apparently do and more power to you, but it doesn't make your intentions any more noble, just different. A different shade of grey.

    Quote Originally Posted by recon1 View Post
    It's your types who have been doing the shootings lately, not my kind.
    I encourage you to go to your local Police station and turn in those firearms, you do not own them for good causes and while on those Schedule I's you are a time bomb waiting to happen.
    Again, you show how ignorant you are about certain things. I do not take schedule 1's, I take a schedule 2 and a schedule 4. Neither have ever been associated with violence, if anything, probably just the opposite. If you were educated on the matter, you would understand that it's the antidepressants, which aren't scheduled, that are associated with killings. Those I am not on.

    Quote Originally Posted by recon1 View Post
    Just talkin' on the real.
    I think my reality and your reality are quite different. I don't care that you see the world differently than I, I just wish you would get some simple facts straight before putting your opinion out there, like the difference between a sch1 and a sch2, and how sch2 have never been correlated with the type of crime you describe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post


    I think my reality and your reality are quite different. I don't care that you see the world differently than I, I just wish you would get some simple facts straight before putting your opinion out there, like the difference between a sch1 and a sch2, and how sch2 have never been correlated with the type of crime you describe.
    It's a opiate, correct ? I would agree that it's different then a antidepressant, but I'm sure manipulating serotonin levels and pain do have an impact on how we think and feel. The addiction to such things will make us do things we wouldn't normally do also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    Kraken, you see what I have to deal with? I don't even know where this fukkbag came from. Kid needs a bitchslap. Thanks for starting this thread, otherwise I would have never met jayflylikefruittyguy
    I created this thread to have more interaction with you, and to get the opinions of others about the subject, or else I would have just PM'd you. But I've had very little interaction with you in this thread, especially regarding the OP and I hope that changes.

    I enjoy reading posts from JayVegas, Brain and KVB, 2 posters I tend to not always agree with but have useful insight and challenge how i view things or at least my rationale. I even appreciate Recon, I would grow bored without him. I wish GuitarJosh or Scumbag would check in, they usually have well thought responses. And of course it goes without saying, The Giant. I think he's a psychologist or something, guy is smart like that.

    With that said, I don't agree with you at all about Sandy Hook, this last shooting or 9/11 and I want to fight you for being so stupid to believe they're actually conspiracies. Someone would have leaked info, there's no evidence, and honestly, it makes no sense. If our gov't was looking to create a situation that would allow them to enable gun control, Sandy Hook was it. They had so much support for gun reform after Sandy Hook and guess what, they did nothing. They did nothing because it wasn't a conspiracy. Same with 9/11, they could have basically rewritten the constitution after 9/11 and with the exception of the fukking ridiculous Patriot Act, they did very little. So it makes no sense.

    The magnitudes of these conspiracies are getting smaller, which means their leverage for gun control is less and less than it would have been after one of the earlier events. Again, come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainfreeze View Post
    It's a opiate, correct ? I would agree that it's different then a antidepressant, but I'm sure manipulating serotonin levels and pain do have an impact on how you think and feel. The addiction to such things will make us do things we wouldn't normally do.
    Correct, it's an opiate. But first, it's a sch2, not a sch1, I know you didn't call it a sch1 but facts are important and I wanted to re-iterate it.

    Beyond that, I can't say I entirely disagree with you but the reality is, the people committing these ridiculous crimes, they're on antidepressants, not pain killers.

    Also, any addiction can change the chemical hardwiring in the brain and affect serotonin levels, smoking or alcohol can do the same. So it's important to look at the facts and ask "which meds are these people actually on", and the answer is antidepressants. In theory, you're statement is correct, in reality, it's not what we're seeing.

    Addiction to prescription opiates does have it's own set of problems that I can't deny but theatre shootings aren't one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Correct, it's an opiate. But first, it's a sch2, not a sch1, I know you didn't call it a sch1 but facts are important and I wanted to re-iterate it.

    Beyond that, I can't say I entirely disagree with you but the reality is, the people committing these ridiculous crimes, they're on antidepressants, not pain killers.

    Also, any addiction can change the chemical hardwiring in the brain and affect serotonin levels, smoking or alcohol can do the same. So it's important to look at the facts and ask "which meds are these people actually on", and the answer is antidepressants. In theory, you're statement is correct, in reality, it's not what we're seeing.

    Addiction to prescription opiates does have it's own set of problems that I can't deny but theatre shootings aren't one of them.
    I would agree,

    Brain drugs will distort thoughts more then any..

    Yes, I know it's not a schedule I, recon just messes with you, because you guys are always squaring off. I'm glad it doesn't resort to you calling him a bunch of names, very respectable and mature. I'm sure deep down recon loves you, just wants you to grow in understanding, or he wouldn't waste his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    I have already answered the question as to why I own the guns. I was very honest in my answers. The AR's I bought at a time I could re-sell them and make money, and I did. I just ended up with a few extras. I love shooting them but I don't need them. The rest of the guns serve a purpose. I could care less about Christianity, I am not a Christian, I don't believe in god, maybe there is a god maybe not, but on a given month, I probably think about Christianity on average of less than 30 seconds.


    Socialist yes, communist no


    I tried cocaine one time and hated it, that certainly doesn't make me a user. "User" implies continued using, I will never do coke again. Oxy is a schedule 2 medication and I take it under the care of a physician and have it prescribed legally. I feel sorry that you view pain meds as having a negative stigma attached to them when so many people in the world are physically dependent upon them. Not because of addiction but because of chronic pain, botched surgeries, accidents etc.... dont' be so quick to judge unless you've experienced years of pain like I have.

    Again, I don't hate christians, you're putting words in my mouth. I am not a christian and I personally think the religion is silly. But many of my closest family and friends are christians and I love them all, regardless of their religious affiliations. I have even said two of my favorite posters here are Sour and Brainfreeze, despite our differences of opinions about religion. Life is more than religion and I find that many times I agree with them, they're interesting and I have a feeling if I were to meet either of them in real life we would probably ignore our religious differences, find common interests and get along great. You, I'm not so sure about, you seem more judgmental and I'm not sure you could set our differences aside, or recognize that regardless how strongly you feel about something, you may be wrong.


    White privilege is real whether you want to recognize it or not. It doesn't mean you've done anything to promote it, nor have I, but we benefit from being born white. Beyond that, yes, we set African Americans back decasdes, if not centuries by enslaving them and neglecting them fundamental education. They have yet to recover. So ya, we are partially responsible.


    You just show how little you know about the process of owning a gun. I have filled out applications in multiple states and each one I said "yes", that I do take narcotics and I provided my PCP's information. I have never been denied a gun, I have a clean record and and it's all legal. You are 100% wrong here.


    There are 50 shades of grey, not everything is black and white. People like you own guns out of fear, as do I. I don't want to be eaten by a grizzly, I fear that, so when I hike in grizzly country, I carry bear spray and a 45cal. But at least I can admit it. I fear someone will break into my house one night and I won't be able to protect my pregnant wife, so I own a 40cal handgun that stays next to my bed. This coming from someone that has done years of boxing and BJJ. In a street fight, I'd hold my own, in my house with my families life on the line, I want a gun next to me. I think those intentions are noble enough. I do not however factor in owning guns just because I have a right to. I could care less about that aspect of it. You apparently do and more power to you, but it doesn't make your intentions any more noble, just different. A different shade of grey.


    Again, you show how ignorant you are about certain things. I do not take schedule 1's, I take a schedule 2 and a schedule 4. Neither have ever been associated with violence, if anything, probably just the opposite. If you were educated on the matter, you would understand that it's the antidepressants, which aren't scheduled, that are associated with killings. Those I am not on.



    I think my reality and your reality are quite different. I don't care that you see the world differently than I, I just wish you would get some simple facts straight before putting your opinion out there, like the difference between a sch1 and a sch2, and how sch2 have never been correlated with the type of crime you describe.

    Bottom-line is if you answered 'yes' to the consumption of drugs that you have admitted to here you would not be allowed to purchase any firearms.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...7-cocaine.html

    Now, i don't have or really the care to know what narcotics you consume, but my experience is anybody who's done what you've admitted to has done much more.

    Personally i'd decriminalize most drugs if i could, but maintain laws that wouldn't allow firearm ownership while consuming narcotics.

    Your answer is fair enough. Thanks

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    The cocaine you have me on

    Otherwise


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    Let’s get an update Sour

    kiddos doing good? Life good? How many AR’s you up to?

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