[The Kraken]

WTF pal?

Calling a hoax on people getting shot on air? Did you think this all the way through?

I'm confused by you right now. You've got a respected degree from a respected university, so you're obviously a smart guy. But you're acting like an Alex Jones groupie right now.

I think you need to challenge your own beliefs right now and not be afraid to admit you're wrong. It's one of the most important things we can do, self-introspection. Don't let your ego get in the way Sour. I'm wrong all the time, but I don't think I am this time.

[bobbywaves]

I'm wrong all the time

not be afraid to admit you're wrong. It's one of the most important things we can do, self-introspection. Don't let your ego get in the way

How about taking your own advice?

[The Kraken]

I'm not always wrong, like in your case. Quite simple. You get $10/month internet, the only people Comcast allows to do this are peoplle that live in poverty, hence you live in poverty.

Normally I wouldnt care but you are always boasting about how much money you have in sportsbooks, as if thats an indicator of actual wealth. Tell me Bobby, how are you still getting enough down per game to make it worth keeping such large balances?

[The Giant]

Like the great Johnny Cochran once said:

If you don't think the panels fit, you must be a conspiratorial misfit.

[TheMoneyShot]

I think sour knows he's wrong. He's so far in deep with that thread... he can't change his mind now.

[Jayvegas420]

Not up to date with the sour situation but is this true Bob?
You get $10 monthly Comcast?
Did you really out yourself like that in a public forum?

Please someone send me the link before he deletes it.

Priceless.

[bobbywaves]

I'm not always wrong

Originally Posted by The Kraken I'm wrong all the time

Normally I wouldnt care but you are always boasting about how much money you have in sportsbooks, as if thats an indicator of actual wealth.

Obvious indicator of wealth, as broke dikk fukks like you & Jay aren't firing away $500 parlays like Waves:

[recon1]

What's going on here? did Kraken prove without a doubt no shananigans took place or just taking shots?

[bobbywaves]

You get $10 monthly Comcast?

Yep, I take full advantage of Comcast at $9.95/month.

Now if you were smart enough to take advantage of your internet provider Canuck, you would have enough $ to buy a computer & play online poker.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Yep, I take full advantage of Comcast at $9.95/month.

Now if you were smart enough to take advantage of your internet provider Canuck, you would have enough $ to buy a computer & play online poker.

Internet way more expensive here.

Same with cell service.

[greenhippo]

What's going on here? did Kraken prove without a doubt no shananigans took place or just taking shots?

You literally could not be more wrong.

See the way the world works, the real world and not some down's syndrome make-believe world, when someone thinks that 99.9% of the world is wrong, the onus of persuasion rests solely on the .1%. People like yourself with such limited intellect think that they must be the ones shown proof of their wild and downright embarrassing beliefs. Fortunately the world in general just laughs and shakes their head at people like yourself and the few here who give themselves mini-strokes because the world is too scary and hard to understand.

[recon1]

You literally could not be more wrong.

See the way the world works, the real world and not some down's syndrome make-believe world, when someone thinks that 99.9% of the world is wrong, the onus of persuasion rests solely on the .1%. People like yourself with such limited intellect think that they must be the ones shown proof of their wild and downright embarrassing beliefs. Fortunately the world in general just laughs and shakes their head at people like yourself and the few here who give themselves mini-strokes because the world is too scary and hard to understand.

You may have quoted the wrong person. Did you see the "?" in my comment?

Have i taken a position on this matter, if so show me or be known as the idiot you appear to be.

[The Kraken]

Yep, I take full advantage of Comcast at $9.95/month.

Now if you were smart enough to take advantage of your internet provider Canuck, you would have enough $ to buy a computer & play online poker.

You can spin this however you want pal



If I were telling the truth and I was in your shows, I would do the same thing

Your kid was on the free lunch program and you get $10 internet from Comcast, solely reserved for broke dikk fukks, and you have an excuse for both

Of course you do

[The Kraken]

What's going on here? did Kraken prove without a doubt no shananigans took place or just taking shots?

Its not my place to disprove, I'm simply pointing out a different perspective based on aerial photos, photo feom the shooters angle and woeking almost 30 years in healthcare

None of it adds up, this is all

you are aware that after every shooting, regardless of how real and how much proof, there is a group of people that claim false flag and hoax. It happened after Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, it happened after 9/11, it happened after Sandy Hook, and it has happened again now after this shooting.

The common denominator is the conspiracy theorists dont have a shred of actual proof in any of the cases, they have shreds of circumstantial evidence, misco trued data (such as the photos shared in the other thread) and then they mold them to fit their preconceived idea of a conspiracy. Then they come along and say "prove me wrong"

But thats not how it works in the real world. A dose of skepticism is needed, paranoia without evidence or fact is dangerous.

[The Kraken]

Obvious indicator of wealth, as broke dikk fukks like you & Jay aren't firing away $500 parlays like Waves:

Again, how and where are you getting down $500 on parlays?????



I haven't been able to get down $500 n a single bet in years Bobby

You're so big time

[greenhippo]

You may have quoted the wrong person. Did you see the "?" in my comment?

Have i taken a position on this matter, if so show me or be known as the idiot you appear to be.

English must not be your first language, if it is please get the help you desperately need. You asked Kraken if he showed proof without a doubt that nothing fishy happened. That is you taking a position that someone needs to prove beyond a doubt what 99.9% of the intellectual community already knows. God bless you.

[recon1]

Its not my place to disprove, I'm simply pointing out a different perspective based on aerial photos, photo feom the shooters angle and woeking almost 30 years in healthcare

None of it adds up, this is all

you are aware that after every shooting, regardless of how real and how much proof, there is a group of people that claim false flag and hoax. It happened after Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, it happened after 9/11, it happened after Sandy Hook, and it has happened again now after this shooting.

The common denominator is the conspiracy theorists dont have a shred of actual proof in any of the cases, they have shreds of circumstantial evidence, misco trued data (such as the photos shared in the other thread) and then they mold them to fit their preconceived idea of a conspiracy. Then they come along and say "prove me wrong"

But thats not how it works in the real world. A dose of skepticism is needed, paranoia without evidence or fact is dangerous.

I'll agree to appoint.

To say that no shenanigans has taken place in the aforementioned incidents is wrong.

To stay on topic of the Virginia shooting i only have 3 things that stand out.

1. The manner in which the shooter approached alleged victims.

2. The Father and alleged boyfriend on air same-day calling for gun laws shedding no tears.

3. The grain of the boards going different direction than in actual shooting. This is big and i'd like to think i know something about these things. I noticed the second i saw the aerial view. it just stand out like a sore thumb.

The first two are circumstantial, but #3 is straight up red flag.

reasons it could happen:

1. alleged shooter was a homosexual

2. on-top of #1 he was a racist and radical at that, clearly displaying very disturbing hatred for people who was not like himself.

3. HR having him allegedly removed off of property due to violent tendencies and complaints by coworkers of his temperament.

It's still under investigation, i don't suppose anything than what we've been told will come out of investigation. I'd like to ask investigators about the pier boards going in different directions, if they've seen those photos and what they thought. Could be someone messing with photos, but i saw the images live on a major network live shot.
Overall, nobody knows except what they are told, therefore it is the duty of everybody to be speculative.

[recon1]

English must not be your first language, if it is please get the help you desperately need. You asked Kraken if he showed proof without a doubt that nothing fishy happened. That is you taking a position that someone needs to prove beyond a doubt what 99.9% of the intellectual community already knows. God bless you.

You still make no sense. Just wanting to attack with nothing to add. i must have stepped on your petunia in the past. Oh, well.
Nothing wrong with my english and yes i do speak three languages

[bobbywaves]

Your kid was on the free lunch program and you get $10 internet from Comcast

Yep, before stepson became a part of my family.

Mistakes happen Kraken, kind of like when your Dad didn't pull out in time.

[bobbywaves]

Again, how and where are you getting down $500 on parlays?????

Not hard when you have a sizeable bankroll like myself, with multiple outs to play at.

I haven't been able to get down $500 n a single bet in years Bobby

Of course you haven't...We already established you're a broke dikk fukk, who can't afford a measly $100 for pro status.

You're so big time

Now you get it.

[brainfreeze]

You may have quoted the wrong person. Did you see the "?" in my comment?

Have i taken a position on this matter, if so show me or be known as the idiot you appear to be.

Yes, I haven't taken a position either, though I think sourtwist's thoughts and questions are healthy. There is all types of things that are put out to make you think and double think about a particular event. Some things put out have a double and most time a deeper meaning to them. Some things are put out just to distract or divert attention.

As soon as someone starts to question the official narratives they are labeled a conspiracy theorist. What people forget is that some conspiracies of the past have turned out to be true.

[muldoon]

The fact that 2 people were gunned down on live TV - yet people are on the fence about "taking a position" is stunning.

[brainfreeze]

The fact that 2 people were gunned down on live TV - yet people are on the fence about "taking a position" is stunning.

I never said I didn't believe two people were gunned down. As recon said, I wouldn't be on the tv within hours talking about gun laws, I doubt any one human could talk to me about anything at that point. Some things are strange about it but I never said it didn't happen.

[brainfreeze]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-migrants.html

Around 167,000 migrants have entered Hungary illegally so far this year, with most crossing the border around the Roszke area.


Here's an example of covert agenda, the story is of a camera woman losing her job for tripping a " refugee " running from police. The thought placed is to not like this woman because she tripped a man carrying a child even though this man was breaking the law.

[muldoon]

Here's an example of covert agenda, the story is of a camera woman losing her job for tripping a " refugee " running from police. The thought placed is to not like this woman because she tripped a man carrying a child even though this man was breaking the law.

Did you put refugee in quotes because you're implying he's not really a refugee?


They aren't running to steal a cool job from someone. They're running from fûcking war where the belligerents are indiscriminately dropping bombs and using chemical weapons.


And yeah, the oyster camerawoman from the far right news channel TRIPPING A MAN CARRYING HIS CHILD is the story in this instance.

[recon1]

Yes, I haven't taken a position either, though I think sourtwist's thoughts and questions are healthy. There is all types of things that are put out to make you think and double think about a particular event. Some things put out have a double and most time a deeper meaning to them. Some things are put out just to distract or divert attention.

As soon as someone starts to question the official narratives they are labeled a conspiracy theorist. What people forget is that some conspiracies of the past have turned out to be true.

Look at how the believers in Christ actually question humans and the motivations that may be hidden.
Now look at how the unbelievers in Christ will believe in what corrupted man will put in front of them……like leading sheep to the slaughter.

[greenhippo]

You still make no sense. Just wanting to attack with nothing to add. i must have stepped on your petunia in the past. Oh, well.
Nothing wrong with my english and yes i do speak three languages

You're confused. You said you've taken no stance on the subject and are just a messenger. However right in this very thread you state that it is wrong to think that no shenanigans have taken place. That my remedial friend is indeed taking a stance. Your mental retardation is severe, your handler should seek immediate medical attention. A normal healthy brain does not struggle as much as you are right now. God bless.

[The Kraken]

Yes, I haven't taken a position either, though I think sourtwist's thoughts and questions are healthy. There is all types of things that are put out to make you think and double think about a particular event. Some things put out have a double and most time a deeper meaning to them. Some things are put out just to distract or divert attention.

As soon as someone starts to question the official narratives they are labeled a conspiracy theorist. What people forget is that some conspiracies of the past have turned out to be true.

This is the main point of your post, and how a lot of people feel. But in reality, it means nothing, zip, zilch, nada.

What happened in the past is independent of what is happening today, it in no way correlates nor affects todays events. Each must be looked at individually.

Look, I'm not saying everyone should trust our gov't, I know I don't, nor do I believe they always have our best interest at hand but that's apples and oranges. We're talking about two people getting gunned down on live TV and people saying they were actors with absolutely no proof to back it up.

This is on a much grander scale than a reporter tripping a refugee, that's like comparing cupcakes to broccoli. The only thing similar is that a reporter was involved.

I'm not sure why everytime something happens people come out of the wood works to disprove it. It's not healthy. It comes from years of feeding paranoia and skepticism. It's simply not healthy, nor is it logical for a science major. And I think he knows it.

And ftr, I like sour about as much as anyone here regardless of our disagreements, much like I have a certain affinity to Recon, regardless of our constant bickering.

[greenhippo]

There are some great books that delve into the psychology of people who believe in wild stories like the ones here Kraken. The Psychology of Conspiracy is a good one. One of the main points you'll read in any of these papers or books is the intellectual state of those who believe in them. Research shows they have a very limited intellect, their brain can't handle the real world like the majority can. Because they're brains are inferior they have to look for ways to take what happens in the world and put it in the hands of mysterious beings. They're unable to process basic information so it scares them into thinking they and everyone is being controlled. It's a remarkable thing if you think about it, adolescent brains in the body of full grown adults.

[muldoon]

They're unable to process basic information so it scares them into thinking they and everyone is being controlled. It's a remarkable thing if you think about it, adolescent brains in the body of full grown adults.

We see it every day. Be it the "God" thread where the crux of the religious argument seems to be that faith and a bronze age book trumps observation, science and logic.

See it in every sport about how it's rigged here. One crooked ref in NBA makes many people believe the games are rigged to come down to a 3-pointer at the end. Often, it's the same racists who think blacks can't put 2 and 2 together that believe that 10 players (mostly black) can coordinate an intricate "fix" night after night.

Is it any wonder that touts still cash in with the "I've got inside info" or televangelists clean up on these minds?

[greenhippo]

There's no wonder here. It's insane the sheer number of people who can't think for themselves. I love the political nuts. People think our government is run by a secret organization or that certain people are already annointed to win. It's hilarious.

[The Kraken]

Ive actually read some papers about the psychology of conspiracy theorists but I've never read a book. Thanks for the insight, I'll have to make a trip to the livrary, I find it fascinating that people reject reality.

Not just question it, or have suspicions but flat out reject it and formulate an alternative that suits there beliefs or their fantasies

I'm not talking about religion, Im talkig about Samdy Hook, the VT shooting, this most recent shooting

The "GOD" thread is completely different

[The Kraken]

Did you put refugee in quotes because you're implying he's not really a refugee?


They aren't running to steal a cool job from someone. They're running from fûcking war where the belligerents are indiscriminately dropping bombs and using chemical weapons.


And yeah, the oyster camerawoman from the far right news channel TRIPPING A MAN CARRYING HIS CHILD is the story in this instance.

Great post

[brainfreeze]

There's no wonder here. It's insane the sheer number of people who can't think for themselves. I love the political nuts. People think our government is run by a secret organization or that certain people are already annointed to win. It's hilarious.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...ctions2000.usa

I don't find it hilarious though...

[brainfreeze]

This is the main point of your post, and how a lot of people feel. But in reality, it means nothing, zip, zilch, nada.

it proves the new conspiracies we talk about now, could be shown true in the future, that was my point.
What happened in the past is independent of what is happening today, it in no way correlates nor affects todays events. Each must be looked at individually.

Look, I'm not saying everyone should trust our gov't, I know I don't, nor do I believe they always have our best interest at hand but that's apples and oranges. We're talking about two people getting gunned down on live TV and people saying they were actors with absolutely no proof to back it up.

I only used it to show how they can shape views and perception with a particular event. That's all...

This is on a much grander scale than a reporter tripping a refugee, that's like comparing cupcakes to broccoli. The only thing similar is that a reporter was involved.

I'm not sure why everytime something happens people come out of the wood works to disprove it. It's not healthy. It comes from years of feeding paranoia and skepticism. It's simply not healthy, nor is it logical for a science major. And I think he knows it.

Well I think him questioning things is a very good thing, it keeps you searching for truths and understanding, your actually putting in concern to research something instead if just eating whatever is being fed through a source that has been proven unreliable

And ftr, I like sour about as much as anyone here regardless of our disagreements, much like I have a certain affinity to Recon, regardless of our constant bickering.

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