[mrpapageorgio]

Is Bookmaker.eu safe? I heard they were together with BetDSI.

They haven't been affiliated since the summer.

[bozeman]

I guess affiliation really impacts the score - for all we know SBR could just make this claim up as a reason to downgrade them - we all know US government went to war in IRAQ over money not freedom and made bullshit statements of mass chemical weapons, so it could be an SBR corporate secret - as a lot of us still do business with DSI as usual.
they always have been a sloppy book with minor bullshit, but they surely don't compare to some B and C rated books on the SBR rating list, like BWIN - who is well known for shutting down winning accounts and not paying the money!

So SBR rating is the best guide out there - but some personal judgement has to be used when looking at those ratings

[GradyFuson]

personal judgement has to be used when looking at those ratings

It's a shame that we can't blindly trust SBR here. My personal judgement is telling me that DSI is safe.

My guess is that after DSI split from Bookmaker they stopped paying SBR their cut on customers losses, for customers that had signed up prior to the split. Probably an agreement that was in place for Bookmakers ownership and but not with DSI's new ownership. Hopefully they sort this out, and the issue doesn't prevent business from going to DSI.

[Legions36]

Please read this thread that just popped back up from a poster.
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...38948-dsi.html
Look at post #43 where the poster was owed 23k then look at post #51 a few days later from that same poster saying he was paid.
Wasn't this the reason DSI was downgraded to a C? If he was paid how come the just went to D+? Not sure whats going on here something isn't correct and from what I know they have been paying big money to people no problem and posters here you can trust on also....

[SBR Forum]

Please read this thread that just popped back up from a poster.
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...38948-dsi.html
Look at post #43 where the poster was owed 23k then look at post #51 a few days later from that same poster saying he was paid.
Wasn't this the reason DSI was downgraded to a C? If he was paid how come the just went to D+? Not sure whats going on here something isn't correct and from what I know they have been paying big money to people no problem and posters here you can trust on also....

Hi Legions,

Post 43 by rodgethat was quoting PlayerPropKing's thread from The RX Forum. He has not been paid.

[Legions36]

Hi Legions,

Post 43 by rodgethat was quoting PlayerPropKing's thread from The RX Forum. He has not been paid.

Whoops you're right, I didn't see that he was quoting. Not sure what the dude was talking about. This still isn't even cool I know the only reason I ever even used DSI was because of Bookmaker anyway, so to feel like we cant trust DSI is bogus right now.

[DwightShrute]

It's a shame that we can't blindly trust SBR here. My personal judgement is telling me that DSI is safe.

My guess is that after DSI split from Bookmaker they stopped paying SBR their cut on customers losses, for customers that had signed up prior to the split. Probably an agreement that was in place for Bookmakers ownership and but not with DSI's new ownership. Hopefully they sort this out, and the issue doesn't prevent business from going to DSI.

DSI is as solid as any book out there. No one should have any qualms about betting there. I have been for over 10 years and will continue. This is nonsense. SBR isn't always right. No one is.

[bozeman]

It's a shame that we can't blindly trust SBR here. My personal judgement is telling me that DSI is safe.

My guess is that after DSI split from Bookmaker they stopped paying SBR their cut on customers losses, for customers that had signed up prior to the split. Probably an agreement that was in place for Bookmakers ownership and but not with DSI's new ownership. Hopefully they sort this out, and the issue doesn't prevent business from going to DSI.

They might want to just save a bit of money on advertising and deploy other strategies - as they have gained a crowd of users through SBR I am sure and as long as they maintain a good relationship with them - they are good - who knows maybe SBR-directed customer increase has plummeted and they saw no reason to pay further. Thats my guess.
Have to say first time in years I have got an email from BETDSI about a month or so ago - saying they credited my account with 25 bucks for betting - and thats considering I havent bet with them for about 5 years. So something has definitely changed.

[TheMoneyShot]

DSI is as solid as any book out there. No one should have any qualms about betting there. I have been for over 10 years and will continue. This is nonsense. SBR isn't always right. No one is.

What's your opinion on the guy that's owed 22k or 23k?

[DwightShrute]

What's your opinion on the guy that's owed 22k or 23k?

You read the report. Unlike other people, I won't comment on things I don't know anything about.

All I see is positive comments about betdsi and one complaint. That is all I need to know. Every book gets them.

I will tell anyone that wants a good solid book that always pays their players to deposit with books like betdsi and bookmaker.

[TheMoneyShot]

You read the report. Unlike other people, I won't comment on things I don't know anything about.

All I see is positive comments about betdsi and one complaint. That is all I need to know. Every book gets them.

I will tell anyone that wants a good solid book that always pays their players to deposit with books like betdsi and bookmaker.

Not only we had a PO complaint on DSI. SBR Poster LVHerbie had a wager cancelled on the Clemson Miami college football game. I think Herbie selected -7.5 while some books opened at -6.5 Clemson early.... DSI claims the line should of been -9.5 and voided the wager.

I don't know what was going on with Bookmaker and DSI besides sharing a building with them in the past??? But... some of the things they are doing are questionable.

I would hope SBR's new rating is a TRUE RATING in regards to how a book operates... and not necessarily because DSI didn't want to renew a business deal with SBR etc?

Yes, the Betislands thing was faulty... and I'm sure a lot of advertising dollars was PUMPED into that formula. I can only hope SBR learned from that... and would protect the PLAYERS more effectively. No one deserves to be lead on or mistreated.

[mrpapageorgio]

Not only we had a PO complaint on DSI. SBR Poster LVHerbie had a wager cancelled on the Clemson Miami college football game. I think Herbie selected -7.5 while some books opened at -6.5 Clemson early.... DSI claims the line should of been -9.5 and voided the wager.

I don't know what was going on with Bookmaker and DSI besides sharing a building with them in the past??? But... some of the things they are doing are questionable.

I would hope SBR's new rating is a TRUE RATING in regards to how a book operates... and not necessarily because DSI didn't want to renew a business deal with SBR etc?

Yes, the Betislands thing was faulty... and I'm sure a lot of advertising dollars was PUMPED into that formula. I can only hope SBR learned from that... and would protect the PLAYERS more effectively. No one deserves to be lead on or mistreated.

Personally, I think the D rating is more of a punitive response to DSI appearing to be uncooperative with SBR in terms of the PO complaint when it appears that DSI has been dragging their feet when the bettor was offering to accommodate DSI's KYC including a Skype session. Since the smaller players are getting paid, I think a C would be more accurate until the PO issue gets resolved. Just because the smaller players are getting paid, doesn't mean they don't have a liquidity issue (whether it's temporary or long term) or some sort of problem that requires caution.

[barkus]

SBR any comment on betdsi requesting players' SSN numbers? I've never seen a book ask such a thing.

[thechaoz]

Unprofessional, guy talks like a scammer.

Yeah I'm done. Pull the penetrate out now. Small withdrawals, small bets. Don't raise any red flags

[thechaoz]

i pulled all my cash out , just a few outrights on NFL might win
i had a problem with them i made withdraw off £4000 GBP to be paid out in bitcoin they paid me $4000 USD in bitcoin about 30% less money after many e-mails i did not ever get my 30% loss back , just a e-mail to say we know your account is in GBP now

What the penetrate? How long ago was this?

[LVHerbie]

Not only we had a PO complaint on DSI. SBR Poster LVHerbie had a wager cancelled on the Clemson Miami college football game. I think Herbie selected -7.5 while some books opened at -6.5 Clemson early.... DSI claims the line should of been -9.5 and voided the wager.

I don't know what was going on with Bookmaker and DSI besides sharing a building with them in the past??? But... some of the things they are doing are questionable.

I would hope SBR's new rating is a TRUE RATING in regards to how a book operates... and not necessarily because DSI didn't want to renew a business deal with SBR etc?

Yes, the Betislands thing was faulty... and I'm sure a lot of advertising dollars was PUMPED into that formula. I can only hope SBR learned from that... and would protect the PLAYERS more effectively. No one deserves to be lead on or mistreated.

SBR said the line I bet was bad enough to be canceled (which I strongly disagree with) and implied I should have been aware enough of such that I should have called in to verify it before betting (which I also strongly disagree with). Pretty doubtful my issue has anything to do with the downgrade.

[RangeFinder]

SBR any comment on betdsi requesting players' SSN numbers? I've never seen a book ask such a thing.

Yes. Logged on this morning and they wanted this information. I gave them this information before so I got on the chat and asked why and was told it was just for security purposes. I then asked if they were cyber attacked and lost this information and was told no.

My conclusion to all these problems (and this is the detective in me), is that they were cyber attacked and were or are be held for ransom which is why you are seeing payouts not being made. I think they maybe trying to keep this secret for obvious reasons (Losing people's personal info to the dark web is never good). I believe this is the reason they are asking for peoples personal info again. This is just my educational guess but it all makes sense when you think about it. They may be trying to hide a major cyber attack that they don't want public.

[techpeter]

was about 8 weeks ago , have pulled out the rest of my cash about £7000 that they paid at the right rate in bitcoin , but still have lost over 30% odd of £4000 , on todays rate £4000 GB is $5376 USD so i lost $1376 USD

[techpeter]

What the penetrate? How long ago was this?

i also have the live chat saved but it has my account I.D on it as i said i have NFL outrights that might win . so i do not like to show my account as they might not pay me out if they win

[RoyBacon]

It's a shame that we can't blindly trust SBR here. My personal judgement is telling me that DSI is safe.

My guess is that after DSI split from Bookmaker they stopped paying SBR their cut on customers losses, for customers that had signed up prior to the split. Probably an agreement that was in place for Bookmakers ownership and but not with DSI's new ownership. Hopefully they sort this out, and the issue doesn't prevent business from going to DSI.

Do you think SBR made up all of the no pay complaints? There are 3 I know of and I'm not following it that closely. I think its a lot simpler. When DSI was with BM they paid everyone, always. Just days after they broke from BM the 1st no pay popped up. So 10+ years of zero no pays with BM, 2nd week of independence a 24k no pay followed with a 12k no pay and a 1.5k no pay. And those are the ones that have been posted. Probably more out there and more to come.

[Outsider626]

SBR should explain why they were downgraded to D+. Something serious had to happen.

[mrpapageorgio]

SBR should explain why they were downgraded to D+. Something serious had to happen.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...raded-d-81836/

[Outsider626]

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...raded-d-81836/

Thanks. i'm curious if they will get their A rating back if they pay those people.

[TheMoneyShot]

Thanks. i'm curious if they will get their A rating back if they pay those people.

Even if DSI finally does square up the accts in question... the "A" rating should never be given.... "A" means you're stellar. This isn't stellar at all. "B" rating at BEST for awhile.

[RoyBacon]

The error SBR made was not downgrading them when they split from Boomaker. I know that's monday morning quaterbacking. Still, Bookmaker was the reason dsi was an A+ in the first place. Before they were run by Bookmaker they were no where near an A book.

While blame is going all around, Bookmaker should have at least sent an email, with 30 days notice, stating they were no longer backing dsi.

[HedgeHog]

Even if DSI finally does square up the accts in question... the "A" rating should never be given.... "A" means you're stellar. This isn't stellar at all. "B" rating at BEST for awhile.

Unless of course they become an advertiser here again. Then their rating should go back to A after the check clears.

[bubba]

The error SBR made was not downgrading them when they split from Boomaker. I know that's monday morning quaterbacking. Still, Bookmaker was the reason dsi was an A+ in the first place. Before they were run by Bookmaker they were no where near an A book.

While blame is going all around, Bookmaker should have at least sent an email, with 30 days notice, stating they were no longer backing dsi.

Did Sbr report the split at the time? Did Sbr know the split at the time?

[Microphone]

Take 2:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...nt-move-80141/

[DwightShrute]

If my favorite food critic gives a bad review for one of my favorite restaurants that I have been eating at for years, I will either keep eating there or try a new place.

[TheMoneyShot]

If my favorite food critic gives a bad review for one of my favorite restaurants that I have been eating at for years, I will either keep eating there or try a new place.

What happens if they change the ingredients in your favorite dish?

[GradyFuson]

Requested $5k (btc max) this morning, received by noon. I will again tomorrow.

[LVHerbie]

If my favorite food critic gives a bad review for one of my favorite restaurants that I have been eating at for years, I will either keep eating there or try a new place.

If I walk by a restaurant on the street I will either eat there or try a different place.... Any chance you can stick to memes in political threads?

[2Bdown]

Requested 5k bitcoin over the weekend. Received before noon today.

[TheGuesser]

BetDSI is not behaving like a D rated book, nor are they behaving like Bet Islands or WSEX when they got in trouble. They definitely owe the 2 or 3 people that currently have ongoing issues a better explanation then they're giving. But Books in trouble don't make numerous max payouts, and have business as usual for so long, to the large majority of players. The sudden drop to a D rating reeks of an an agenda, far deeper than a couple of players having ongoing issues. A drop to a B or B- rating is probably warranted, based on the separation from Bookmaker group, and the couple of troubling, ongoing issues.

[BAUS]

BetDSI is not behaving like a D rated book, nor are they behaving like Bet Islands or WSEX when they got in trouble. They definitely owe the 2 or 3 people that currently have ongoing issues a better explanation then they're giving. But Books in trouble don't make numerous max payouts, and have business as usual for so long, to the large majority of players. The sudden drop to a D rating reeks of an an agenda, far deeper than a couple of players having ongoing issues. A drop to a B or B- rating is probably warranted, based on the separation from Bookmaker group, and the couple of troubling, ongoing issues.

BAUS