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    Great book! Not worried at all.
    They would be killing it on the bitcoin surge and are taking huge bets on NFL right now.

    Who reading this thread has an issue with them??? (other than SBR who is likely fishing for sponsorship)
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    Thanks Sportsbookreview for being so vigilant... without the reputation ratings here, I don't think my gaming would be possible.

    One question about sportsbook.ag. They've been D- forever, meanwhile I've been able to withdraw tens of thousands over the past year or so without any hickups. But I know they had many problems and I myself was slow paid for an amount that took me months to withdraw. Is there a mechanisms for books to regain a reputation? As a member, can I nominate sportsbook for an increase in reputation?

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    Try Nitro there making a KILLING there was a guy who was playing dice a few days ago betting 75k a roll and he rolled about 20 times and there stricly Bitcoin there killing it right now especially with quickest bitcoin w/d in the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by GradyFuson View Post
    Great book! Not worried at all.
    They would be killing it on the bitcoin surge and are taking huge bets on NFL right now.

    Who reading this thread has an issue with them??? (other than SBR who is likely fishing for sponsorship)

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    BetDSI is Bookmaker.eu's sister book. Does this matter affect Bookmaker.eu too? I have over 5 figures with them. I never have any problems with them since I opened the account with them back in 2013. Should I worry?

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    SBR usually gets over $100K annually to advertise a book in an A rating. Did BetDSI pay the $$$$$?

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    I would also like to know exactly what happened. Did Bookmaker just one day decide to stop backing BetDSI? And if so what about all the clients who signed up because of the financial security of the Bookmaker group?

    If a book can just one day say they will stop the backing of its sister book, then that sister book should always have a lower rating than the "main" book, as they dont both have the same financial security. But maybe I am missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CashBuilder View Post
    BetDSI is Bookmaker.eu's sister book. Does this matter affect Bookmaker.eu too? I have over 5 figures with them. I never have any problems with them since I opened the account with them back in 2013. Should I worry?
    BetDSI went on their own this past July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pareto View Post
    I would also like to know exactly what happened. Did Bookmaker just one day decide to stop backing BetDSI? And if so what about all the clients who signed up because of the financial security of the Bookmaker group?

    If a book can just one day say they will stop the backing of its sister book, then that sister book should always have a lower rating than the "main" book, as they dont both have the same financial security. But maybe I am missing something.
    Betdsi were never part of Bookmaker. They weren't their sister company. They simply shared the same building and thus teamed up with some of their personnel such as CS, accounting etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Betdsi was never part of Bookmaker. The simply shared the same building and thus teamed up with some of their personnel such as CS, accounting etc.
    Ok, what about Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet. Are they owned by the same group? So they will all be equally secure? Or can one of them also at one point "go their own way" as it was put.

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    Shame, they were once a great book just not to long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by searanchdude View Post
    Thanks Sportsbookreview for being so vigilant... without the reputation ratings here, I don't think my gaming would be possible.

    One question about sportsbook.ag. They've been D- forever, meanwhile I've been able to withdraw tens of thousands over the past year or so without any hickups. But I know they had many problems and I myself was slow paid for an amount that took me months to withdraw. Is there a mechanisms for books to regain a reputation? As a member, can I nominate sportsbook for an increase in reputation?
    Not a great argument. Sportsbook.ag are thieves and notorious slow payers--at least prior to BTC. Checks would take 3-4 MONTHS (not weeks) to arrive. BTW, they stole 9k from me 10 years ago. Shiit book worthy of their D- rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pareto View Post
    Ok, what about Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet. Are they owned by the same group? So they will all be equally secure? Or can one of them also at one point "go their own way" as it was put.
    Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet yes.
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet yes.
    How about Galaxy, where I still play. Used to be affiliated with DSI and now with the Bookmaker group, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Not a great argument. Sportsbook.ag are thieves and notorious slow payers--at least prior to BTC. Checks would take 3-4 MONTHS (not weeks) to arrive. BTW, they stole 9k from me 10 years ago. Shiit book worthy of their D- rating.
    Hedgehog... I've experienced their 4 month slowpay. But given their reliability since BTC, am wondering if they deserve vetter than D-. If I was ruler of the world, I'd consider them a C book lack of complaints for about a year. However, I agree I don't have a great argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    How about Galaxy, where I still play. Used to be affiliated with DSI and now with the Bookmaker group, right?
    Galaxy stayed with Bookmaker.

    99.99% sure of that.

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    Dsi was same company as bkr,under betcris umbrella. I dont know why you say that it isnt so dwight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moojoo View Post
    Dsi was same company as bkr,under betcris umbrella. I dont know why you say that it isnt so dwight?
    They were not the same company. Ask them if you don't believe me. They shared the same building and some of the staff for 12 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneFree View Post
    BetDSI went on their own this past July.
    Where did you get your source? BetDSI is always a sister book of Bookmaker.eu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    They were not the same company. Ask them if you don't believe me. They shared the same building and some of the staff for 12 years.
    C'mon kid. Sounds B.S to me.

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    always thought they were a tad shady

    seems like quite a big drop because of a few complaints though

  22. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Not a great argument. Sportsbook.ag are thieves and notorious slow payers--at least prior to BTC. Checks would take 3-4 MONTHS (not weeks) to arrive. BTW, they stole 9k from me 10 years ago. Shiit book worthy of their D- rating.
    Searanchdude and I are two players who both have had mostly positive experiences with Sportsbook.ag and have received large payouts recently from them. That being said, I'd still recommend at least a dozen sites before I'd suggest Sportsbook.ag. I don't think they are a D book at this moment though.

    Regarding BetDSI. The fact that they have been dropped to a D seems drastic. Most players have been reporting very positive things from DSI. My experience with DSI has been mostly positive too. I have no balance there at the moment but would not worry one bit if I did. I think they are still a reliable book.

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    They are paying small fish and stiffing the big ones. Two of the no pays are over $10k, one of those is over $20k.

    The problem is once in a while a small fish gets lucky. Probably a very good idea not to request a payout over say $5k.

    Looks a a lot like a liquidity issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Searanchdude and I are two players who both have had mostly positive experiences with Sportsbook.ag and have received large payouts recently from them. That being said, I'd still recommend at least a dozen sites before I'd suggest Sportsbook.ag. I don't think they are a D book at this moment though.

    Regarding BetDSI. The fact that they have been dropped to a D seems drastic. Most players have been reporting very positive things from DSI. My experience with DSI has been mostly positive too. I have no balance there at the moment but would not worry one bit if I did. I think they are still a reliable book.
    DSI has been good to me too, before and after their break from the CRIS brand of books. Same day payouts are still the norm for me, but I am concerned about the rising number of complaints. It's only a handful right now, but those affected all have large balances. It does remind me of what Sportsbook did a decade ago to the large balance holders. They were screwed while the smaller accounts were kept current. So I'm keeping my exposure to DSI to a minimum at this point.

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    WTF has BetDSI gone rogue or something? Dropping from A to D in days!

    I busted out in September and I'm so glad that for once I listened to my gut, had a bad feeling about reloading.

    Place started to remind me of the Canbet fiasco for some reason.

    SBR what is going on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CashBuilder View Post
    BetDSI is Bookmaker.eu's sister book. Does this matter affect Bookmaker.eu too? I have over 5 figures with them. I never have any problems with them since I opened the account with them back in 2013. Should I worry?
    Not anymore.

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    Seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread.

    DSI was always it's own company and was just using CRIS infrastructure. CRIS/Bookmaker always had their back whilst doing that and would not have allowed the business to fail or go rouge, but they were always separate owners.


    Here is a timeline of what has happened since DSI moved out;


    BetDSI to Relocate to New Facility & Statement on Move - 07.09.2017

    Update on BetDSI Sportsbook Website Migration & Issues - 07.11.2017

    BetDSI Sportsbook Downgraded to C - 11.27.2017

    BetDSI Sportsbook Downgraded to D+ - 12.08.2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    always thought they were a tad shady

    seems like quite a big drop because of a few complaints though
    Possibly SBR knows more. I'm glad they are looking out for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Possibly SBR knows more. I'm glad they are looking out for us.

    LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CashBuilder View Post
    C'mon kid. Sounds B.S to me.
    are you perhaps the same guy at the pub who claimed Pepsi and Coca Cola were the same companies?

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    Is Bookmaker.eu safe? I heard they were together with BetDSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    are you perhaps the same guy at the pub who claimed Pepsi and Coca Cola were the same companies?
    No. You have to be making that up lol. It reminds me of someone i know that insists that Indians from the United States (Native American) And Indians from India are the exact same thing. No matter what everyone tells him he still does not listen and insists we are all wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    No. You have to be making that up lol. It reminds me of someone i know that insists that Indians from the United States (Native American) And Indians from India are the exact same thing. No matter what everyone tells him he still does not listen and insists we are all wrong.
    sad to say no. He said they teamed up to make cola wars a "thing" in order to sell more pop. He also cited that how come they are both sold in the same pop machines and in the same cooler at 7/11? Maybe he's got a point come to think of it. Could this be one of the greatest hoaxes in history? I should ask my native indian friend next time I am in 7/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    sad to say no. He said they teamed up to make cola wars a "thing" in order to sell more pop. He also cited that how come they are both sold in the same pop machines and in the same cooler at 7/11? Maybe he's got a point come to think of it. Could this be one of the greatest hoaxes in history? I should ask my native indian friend next time I am in 7/11.
    Wow lol. Funny thing is his wife is actually part Native American Indian as i am too a little. So it is a bit of an insult when he says it. I like the guy but some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth at times is comical.

    I have never seen Coke in a Pepsi machine or **** versa. I have seen (And way back i used to fill vending machines) independently owned machines that the owners can put whatever they felt like into it.

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