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    Quote Originally Posted by temple2010 View Post
    An "A" to a "C" in 2 weeks??? what gives here?? is the largest drop in ratings over such a short period of time?
    Agree. Don't know any more than the forum but that change is a big red flag. Proceed with caution using them.

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    Just so happens I made a 3k bitcoin withdrawal request this morning at DSI. I'll post when it gets sent. This will drop my exposure from 5k to 2K. I won't deposit again until the smoke clears.

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    Wow!! This move has been a trainwreck for them. They are really well liked in CR so I would be shocked if this ended like other books in the past.

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    3k received same day again (last month I received 4k same day). Seems like business as usual at DSI.
    Last edited by HedgeHog; 12-04-17 at 06:49 PM.

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    Also requested bitcoin today- 4k- received in about 11 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclingbettor View Post
    I take it you have some more detailed knowledge of this case....
    It's on the theRxforum.com in more detail. The stiffee posts updates a couple of times a day. He is a regular over there.

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    The ratings drop doesn’t concern me at all. It’s just SBR trying to “negotiate” a new advertising deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Agree. Don't know any more than the forum but that change is a big red flag. Proceed with caution using them.
    nonsense

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    Question to SBR: Is one complaint causing the rapid drop from A to C? If not, please inform us of all the others. If so then 5D is a D book by the same criteria. Why is DSI's rating dropping so quickly??? Back your position with facts. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Question to SBR: Is one complaint causing the rapid drop from A to C? If not, please inform us of all the others. If so then 5D is a D book by the same criteria. Why is DSI's rating dropping so quickly??? Back your position with facts. Thanks in advance.
    does 5dimes owe someone 20k+ that they havent paid? I assume they do? I honestly didnt know

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    SBR stepping up.

    Glad they are looking out for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Question to SBR: Is one complaint causing the rapid drop from A to C? If not, please inform us of all the others. If so then 5D is a D book by the same criteria. Why is DSI's rating dropping so quickly??? Back your position with facts. Thanks in advance.
    I don't know if this has anything to do with it or not??? DSI cancelled a wager from a poster who selected Clemson -7.5 they claim it was a line error. Line was fluctuating from -7.5 to -9 at most books. They cancelled the wager well before the game kicked off.... but the point was... they cancelled the wager and notified the player.

    Again... I don't know if that has anything to do with it??? I'm sure SBR will answer your question soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I don't know if this has anything to do with it or not??? DSI cancelled a wager from a poster who selected Clemson -7.5 they claim it was a line error. Line was fluctuating from -7.5 to -9 at most books. They cancelled the wager well before the game kicked off.... but the point was... they cancelled the wager and notified the player.

    Again... I don't know if that has anything to do with it??? I'm sure SBR will answer your question soon enough.
    dsi hasnt payed a player 20k+ dating back months. sbr actually appears to agree with dsi cancelling a line thats barely off

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba View Post
    dsi hasnt payed a player 20k+ dating back months. sbr actually appears to agree with dsi cancelling a line thats barely off
    I knew about the 24k. Forgot to post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post

    nonsense
    SBR moving them from A+ to A, to B, to C, 7 grades lower in total, isn't a red flag?? What are you trying to say is nonsense Dwight?

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    i don't know why SBR would wait so long to downgrade them. Guy has been waiting since August.

    4 months to go to a C on a no-pay??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    The ratings drop doesn’t concern me at all. It’s just SBR trying to “negotiate” a new advertising deal.

    BAUS
    Baus , your lucky SBR Lou isn't still here banning posters!

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    John (15:42:29): Hi and welcome to betdsi chat , can I get your User Id and password?
    Eric (15:42:43): So after all the work Chris/Bookmaker did for DSI, you guys ruin in by not paying customers?
    John (15:42:51): false
    Eric (15:42:54): BetDSI had a good name until now
    John (15:43:00): it sstill does
    John (15:43:02): great name
    Eric (15:43:14): No it doesn't. Look at SBR, you went from an A to a C
    John (15:43:28): SBR is just one affiliate
    Eric (15:43:31): Many players bitching about how bad it is
    John (15:43:45): many player bitch about everybook
    Eric (15:43:47): I read bad things at Covers, TheRX, EOG
    Eric (15:44:03): Never a slow pay or no pay from BookMaker, 5Dimes, Heritiage, Pinny?
    John (15:44:06): I read bad things at Covers, TheRX, EOG about every book
    John (15:44:13): lol
    Eric (15:44:16): But not NO PAYS
    Eric (15:44:31): Are you new to bookmaking?
    John (15:44:32): Never a slow pay or no pay from BookMaker, 5Dimes, Heritiage, Pinny????
    Eric (15:44:41): NEVER
    John (15:44:50): I play at book maker also
    John (15:44:58): bet dsi for 10 years
    Eric (15:45:01): and you've never not been paid
    Eric (15:45:09): DSI is not paying it's players
    John (15:45:21): people dont believe everything anonymous posters post on forums
    John (15:45:37): you also seen many posters post great things about dsi
    John (15:45:46): choose to believe what you wish
    Eric (15:45:51): https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...raded-c-81701/
    John (15:45:58): business has never been betetr
    Eric (15:46:01): To a C
    John (15:46:10): on SBR
    John (15:46:12): so?
    Eric (15:46:16): BetDSI soon to be Lenny from Cascade
    John (15:46:19): sbr is just one affiliate
    Eric (15:46:30): A pretty big one and you don't care?
    John (15:46:31): gthey are not God
    John (15:46:38): we care
    Eric (15:46:44): No you don't
    John (15:46:51): ok
    Eric (15:46:51): otherwise you would explain why the issue?
    John (15:47:01): you tell me how I feel ?? fine
    John (15:47:20): there is no issue
    Eric (15:47:26): Explain the issue at SBR?
    Eric (15:47:40): So, their store is false?
    Eric (15:47:46): *story
    John (15:48:00): there is more to it
    John (15:48:18): if you bet here and win, you will always get paid
    John (15:48:27): that has always been the case for 20 years
    John (15:48:31): nothing has changed
    Eric (15:48:34): Why didn't that player get paid?
    Eric (15:48:53): Hey, but you were always under the BookMaker backers
    John (15:49:00): again, that isnt true
    John (15:49:19): see what happens? you are saying something as fact when it isnt
    Eric (15:49:19): Is this Lenny?
    Eric (15:49:25): Or John from BetIslands?
    John (15:49:34): this is betdsi
    Eric (15:49:45): "C" Rated BetDSI
    Eric (15:49:57): You won't be getting my desposit
    John (15:50:07): dont play here then. People that do, know there is nothing to worry about
    John (15:50:10): ok
    John (15:50:13): play elsewhere
    Eric (15:50:18): People are pulling their money out
    John (15:50:22): nope
    John (15:50:24): fake news
    Eric (15:50:28): Oh yes they are
    John (15:50:34): nope
    John (15:50:36): Anything else I can help you with?
    Eric (15:50:40): Well, you have a good day
    John (15:50:46): Ioutta know
    John (15:50:51): U have a super day

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    so SBR lowers them from an "A" to a "B" because one guy, for what ever reason didn't get paid yet. But then why did they lower them again? We really aren't getting enough information from both sides. Why is this whole thing so secretive??? I'll be honest I'm a little nervous about them now too but i did just receive a payout this week in the same day.

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    When is this guy getting paid. 24k to wait 4 months is pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantingyou View Post
    John (15:42:29): Hi and welcome to betdsi chat , can I get your User Id and password?
    Eric (15:42:43): So after all the work Chris/Bookmaker did for DSI, you guys ruin in by not paying customers?
    John (15:42:51): false

    Eric (15:42:54): BetDSI had a good name until now
    John (15:43:00): it sstill does
    John (15:43:02): great name
    Eric (15:43:14): No it doesn't. Look at SBR, you went from an A to a C
    John (15:43:28): SBR is just one affiliate
    Eric (15:43:31): Many players bitching about how bad it is
    John (15:43:45): many player bitch about everybook
    Eric (15:43:47): I read bad things at Covers, TheRX, EOG
    Eric (15:44:03): Never a slow pay or no pay from BookMaker, 5Dimes, Heritiage, Pinny?
    John (15:44:06): I read bad things at Covers, TheRX, EOG about every book
    John (15:44:13): lol
    Eric (15:44:16): But not NO PAYS
    Eric (15:44:31): Are you new to bookmaking?
    John (15:44:32): Never a slow pay or no pay from BookMaker, 5Dimes, Heritiage, Pinny????
    Eric (15:44:41): NEVER
    John (15:44:50): I play at book maker also
    John (15:44:58): bet dsi for 10 years
    Eric (15:45:01): and you've never not been paid
    Eric (15:45:09): DSI is not paying it's players
    John (15:45:21): people dont believe everything anonymous posters post on forums
    John (15:45:37): you also seen many posters post great things about dsi
    John (15:45:46): choose to believe what you wish
    Eric (15:45:51): https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...raded-c-81701/
    John (15:45:58): business has never been betetr
    Eric (15:46:01): To a C
    John (15:46:10): on SBR
    John (15:46:12): so?
    Eric (15:46:16): BetDSI soon to be Lenny from Cascade
    John (15:46:19): sbr is just one affiliate
    Eric (15:46:30): A pretty big one and you don't care?
    John (15:46:31): gthey are not God
    John (15:46:38): we care
    Eric (15:46:44): No you don't
    John (15:46:51): ok
    Eric (15:46:51): otherwise you would explain why the issue?
    John (15:47:01): you tell me how I feel ?? fine
    John (15:47:20): there is no issue
    Eric (15:47:26): Explain the issue at SBR?
    Eric (15:47:40): So, their store is false?
    Eric (15:47:46): *story
    John (15:48:00): there is more to it
    John (15:48:18): if you bet here and win, you will always get paid
    John (15:48:27): that has always been the case for 20 years
    John (15:48:31): nothing has changed
    Eric (15:48:34): Why didn't that player get paid?
    Eric (15:48:53): Hey, but you were always under the BookMaker backers
    John (15:49:00): again, that isnt true
    John (15:49:19): see what happens? you are saying something as fact when it isnt
    Eric (15:49:19): Is this Lenny?
    Eric (15:49:25): Or John from BetIslands?
    John (15:49:34): this is betdsi
    Eric (15:49:45): "C" Rated BetDSI
    Eric (15:49:57): You won't be getting my desposit
    John (15:50:07): dont play here then. People that do, know there is nothing to worry about
    John (15:50:10): ok
    John (15:50:13): play elsewhere
    Eric (15:50:18): People are pulling their money out
    John (15:50:22): nope
    John (15:50:24): fake news
    Eric (15:50:28): Oh yes they are
    John (15:50:34): nope
    John (15:50:36): Anything else I can help you with?
    Eric (15:50:40): Well, you have a good day
    John (15:50:46): Ioutta know
    John (15:50:51): U have a super day
    Unprofessional, guy talks like a scammer.

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    Requested a payout and get message requesting SSN. Someone else mentioned same scenario and curious if anyone else is encountering this?

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    Could SBR explain some more regarding BetDsi. Did they change management and employers,or just Bookmaker backing? Why did that happened. We need full story,not just from A to C and that's it.

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    i pulled all my cash out , just a few outrights on NFL might win
    i had a problem with them i made withdraw off £4000 GBP to be paid out in bitcoin they paid me $4000 USD in bitcoin about 30% less money after many e-mails i did not ever get my 30% loss back , just a e-mail to say we know your account is in GBP now

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    SBR ratings are tremendous day to day and have been consistent for 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba View Post
    does 5dimes owe someone 20k+ that they havent paid? I assume they do? I honestly didnt know
    I recall at least 3 large casino winners having their funds taken away. 5D claimed glitches in their system each time.

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    Just on a side note so we have both sides of the story.....How does SBR get paid from a book like DSI? Is this an annual or monthly transaction? Just curious to hear if their relationship has soured as its obviously been in place for a long time. If this detail has already come forward in an earlier response, please disregard my thread.

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    D+ now whoa, but it makes sense. From across the street- - - -

    "I have been getting the same run around as you. Pretty much identical situation but for slightly less money. I’m owed 11k and have been trying to request a withdrawal for 2 months now. They wouldn’t give me any specific answers to my questions, just bs generic responses for weeks up until last week where they stopped replying to me completely. Completely unprofessional and I’m at the point where I feel like I have been stolen from. Not sure what else there is to do. Perhaps their ship is sinking and they are pulling an exit scam?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetsfan View Post
    D+ now whoa, but it makes sense. From across the street- - - -

    "I have been getting the same run around as you. Pretty much identical situation but for slightly less money. I’m owed 11k and have been trying to request a withdrawal for 2 months now. They wouldn’t give me any specific answers to my questions, just bs generic responses for weeks up until last week where they stopped replying to me completely. Completely unprofessional and I’m at the point where I feel like I have been stolen from. Not sure what else there is to do. Perhaps their ship is sinking and they are pulling an exit scam?"
    That's really tough to hear, everyone would like to bet knowing they will get paid. Apparently, they are paying players for small amounts, and not those for 5 figures. Have you spoken with SBR? Have they reached out and gotten an answer to this?

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    Sort of reminds me of that WSEX book back in the day. On top of the world one day.... and went Rock Bottom the next.

    Buh bye DSI.

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    Are all the new problems with DSI no pays based on large casino balances, that DSI is claiming software glitches with? Or are there any that just rolled up large balances Betting Sports and are now being stiffed?

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    Give us full info on Dsi. How the heck is possible to go from a to d on accpunt of 2 staling payouts. Are they going down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Question to SBR: Is one complaint causing the rapid drop from A to C? If not, please inform us of all the others. If so then 5D is a D book by the same criteria. Why is DSI's rating dropping so quickly??? Back your position with facts. Thanks in advance.
    ya that make a lot of sense doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Sort of reminds me of that WSEX book back in the day. On top of the world one day.... and went Rock Bottom the next.

    Buh bye DSI.
    this

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    I have never seen a faster drop short of Betislands i think it was that just up and left one day. I remember way back winning $10000 and getting it all at once too. Scary how they ended up. Maybe poetic justice for how they used to blatantly rip people off in their Casino though.

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