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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    well, if someone has 3 total posts, and 2 of them are saying how they got paid from topbet, i would be very SKEPTICAL that they are telling the truth

    add to that the weird part about getting an email from the bank... what kind of banking procedures would allow them to email someone about deposits or withdrawals? that would violate about 100 laws
    What are you talking about dude, I'm a lawyer, there's no law against a bank sending an automated email confirming a deposit or withdrawal. As far as your claim that we should be skeptical since this person hasn't had many posts, come on man, are you really suggesting topbet is creating fake accounts that say they got paid. Someone on the OSGA site said they got paid at nearly the exact same time and OSGA told me a batch of checks had gone out at around that time. The person who just posted said he is still owed more money. There a lot of people who follow this stuff that don't post regularly. Somone on OSGA reported being paid by topbet just a couple days ago, but for an amount less than what they were owed - see the link I already posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    What are you talking about dude, I'm a lawyer, there's no law against a bank sending an automated email confirming a deposit or withdrawal. As far as your claim that we should be skeptical since this person hasn't had many posts, come on man, are you really suggesting topbet is creating fake accounts that say they got paid. Someone on the OSGA site said they got paid at nearly the exact same time and OSGA told me a batch of checks had gone out at around that time. The person who just posted said he is still owed more money. There a lot of people who follow this stuff that don't post regularly. Somone on OSGA reported being paid by topbet just a couple days ago, but for an amount less than what they were owed - see the link I already posted.
    yes we should be skeptical, there's a long history of posters shilling for books and lying about getting paid... betislands had quite a few people here on the payroll

    and as an attorney hopefully you're well aware of banking privacy laws and the fact that non-encrypted emails aren't private, but i guess you know every single law since you're an attorney!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveg4 View Post
    Guys I have good news. I received a payout for $4k today. I didn't think the money was going to come, I had been waiting for so long. I had been receiving calls and emails from them assuring me it would be okay, but then I got the email from my bank today.

    They still have more to send, but this is a VERY good sign. They were paying regularly until about April, now this is the first I have received since then.
    ok let's recap the logistics of this

    they are down to 1 payout option right? check in the mail

    so topbet kept calling and emailing him for some reason, telling him he would be paid (seems weird)

    then out of the blue the bank emails him saying he got his money! oh happy day! unless they do bank wires, apparently the check went directly to the bank, where they signed it, deposited it, and emailed him

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    yes we should be skeptical, there's a long history of posters shilling for books and lying about getting paid... betislands had quite a few people here on the payroll

    and as an attorney hopefully you're well aware of banking privacy laws and the fact that non-encrypted emails aren't private, but i guess you know every single law since you're an attorney!
    Did you read the email, do you know if its was encrypted, the answer is no and no. And if the email did not contain sensitive information it did not need to be encrpyted, it might have just been a notification. A lot of people, many in this thread, have reported phone calls. As far as people shilling for topbet. Everyone knows that topbet is is not paying on time right now, there are complaints up and down the internet, you really think 1 guy on SBR is going to change people's opinions. Where have the topbet shills been the last 3 months, they just show up now, come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Did you read the email, do you know if its was encrypted, the answer is no and no. And if the email did not contain sensitive information it did not need to be encrpyted, it might have just been a notification. A lot of people, many in this thread, have reported phone calls. As far as people shilling for topbet. Everyone knows that topbet is is not paying on time right now, there are complaints up and down the internet, you really think 1 guy on SBR is going to change people's opinions. Where have the topbet shills been the last 3 months, they just show up now, come on.
    i hope you're right

    i just said to be SKEPTICAL

    they have been lying about processor issues, offering bonuses for cancelling withdrawals, and yet continue to take deposits! as shady as they come, so to think they wouldn't lie about payouts (or have people lie about it) to get a couple more deposits for football season is more than a bit naive

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALLSTAR86 View Post
    I have been waiting for my first payout since March. I'm not sure how you got one with an April request date, but good for you. It doesn't appear anyone has gotten paid besides you and the conversations continue to be the same..... it's our processor's fault, but we guarantee we will pay you. I've lost any hope that I will actually get paid.
    Dude read his post, he did not say he got paid money he requested in April, he said he was getting paid until April. I don't think this guy is a shill, he joined SBR in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Dude read his post, he did not say he got paid money he requested in April, he said he was getting paid until April. I don't think this guy is a shill, he joined SBR in 2014.
    his first post was a NEW THREAD mentioning topbet as a place to play

    second post was saying he got paid 20k from topbet, and recommending them

    third post was saying he got paid from topbet

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    his first post was a NEW THREAD mentioning topbet as a place to play

    second post was saying he got paid 20k from topbet, and recommending them

    third post was saying he got paid from topbet

    His first post was asking where to play and mentioning 4 books as places he was looking at, he did not mention anything positive about topbet, your reaching. His second post mentioned he got 20k from topbet. Again dude, the link I posted shows other players reported being paid at about the exact same time as him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    ok let's recap the logistics of this

    they are down to 1 payout option right? check in the mail

    so topbet kept calling and emailing him for some reason, telling him he would be paid (seems weird)

    then out of the blue the bank emails him saying he got his money! oh happy day! unless they do bank wires, apparently the check went directly to the bank, where they signed it, deposited it, and emailed him
    And topbet does do bank wires. Do you even use this book. I have a pending wire that I'm waiting for right now. You can get 2500 from checks and 5k from bank wires, so the amount of money he requested would have had to be from a wire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    And topbet does do bank wires. Do you even use this book. I have a pending wire that I'm waiting for right now. You can get 2500 from checks and 5k from bank wires, so the amount of money he requested would have had to be from a wire.
    ok i thought they stopped doing bank wires

    why would someone's first post be to start a thread asking where to play, and mentioning 3 books... one that doesn't take us customers, one that totally sucks (sportsbook), and one that nobody really heard of at the time (topbet)?

    i'm not reaching... the only thing that poster was interested in over the past 3 years was mentioning topbet. not a single post about anything else

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    I, too, find it incredibly odd about the way he was notified and the fact that he had been waiting since April for a payout and this thread has been active for months yet he never posted before this. Topbet has told me numerous times over the last two months that I'm in the next batch of payments. How is it that a guy that requests a month after me (and a lot of people in this thread) gets paid first? It doesn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALLSTAR86 View Post
    I, too, find it incredibly odd about the way he was notified and the fact that he had been waiting since April for a payout and this thread has been active for months yet he never posted before this. Topbet has told me numerous times over the last two months that I'm in the next batch of payments. How is it that a guy that requests a month after me (and a lot of people in this thread) gets paid first? It doesn't make any sense.
    Guys, come on, read what he posted. He never said he got paid from a request that was made on or after April, he said he had not been paid since April. We have no way of knowing when the original payout request was made that he claims to have been paid from. Again, if he was the only one who said he was paid I would be suspicious, but their is someone on OSGA who has complained frequently about topbet that said he was paid in late July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    ok i thought they stopped doing bank wires

    why would someone's first post be to start a thread asking where to play, and mentioning 3 books... one that doesn't take us customers, one that totally sucks (sportsbook), and one that nobody really heard of at the time (topbet)?

    i'm not reaching... the only thing that poster was interested in over the past 3 years was mentioning topbet. not a single post about anything else
    He has posted 3 times in 3 years, 2 posts were positive about topbet. He hasn't really been interested in anything. Why would this guy say he's still owed more money as well, his post doesn't exactly inspire confidence in this book going into football season.

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    here's a guy from therx forum that posted 3 times in his posting career... wow what a surprise all were about topbet and how he was getting paid

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    Yeah I mean I did/I am as fast as possible. It's 2,400 a week Max and I'm only on the 6th business day of the first withdrawal . The customer service is available 24/7 via phone and is really helpful and assures me that I will have no issues . I'm just going to cash out 2,400 a week untill I have it all.



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    I was just called and informed that I would not be receiving a tracking number again this week for the funds that were made available one month ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    here's a guy from therx forum that posted 3 times in his posting career... wow what a surprise all were about topbet and how he was getting paid

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    Yeah I mean I did/I am as fast as possible. It's 2,400 a week Max and I'm only on the 6th business day of the first withdrawal . The customer service is available 24/7 via phone and is really helpful and assures me that I will have no issues . I'm just going to cash out 2,400 a week untill I have it all.


    So you found a guy who posted 3 times about topbet 2 years ago, I don't see your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    So you found a guy who posted 3 times about topbet 2 years ago, I don't see your point.
    my point is that topbet was always a scam book

    they promoted themselves as a paid sponsor on therx and eog... had payout issues yet always had some people say how great their customer service was... while they were lying, cheating, stealing, and hanging up on people who called to ask about getting paid

    has topbet ever called or emailed you about your pending payouts? yet this guy was getting updates on emails and phone calls from topbet? i don't believe it

    hopefully they paid people and will pay some more people. but the only reason for them to pay anyone is to get more deposits, why else would they just send you money when they are thieves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    my point is that topbet was always a scam book

    they promoted themselves as a paid sponsor on therx and eog... had payout issues yet always had some people say how great their customer service was... while they were lying, cheating, stealing, and hanging up on people who called to ask about getting paid

    has topbet ever called or emailed you about your pending payouts? yet this guy was getting updates on emails and phone calls from topbet? i don't believe it

    hopefully they paid people and will pay some more people. but the only reason for them to pay anyone is to get more deposits, why else would they just send you money when they are thieves?
    I've used topbet for 5 years, I haven't deposited with them in 3 years. To say topbet was always a scam book is totally and completely false. They paid late, but always paid, I've cashed out over 3k from them. Topbet has been calling and emailing many people about payouts, including people on this thread. As for whether or not topbet is a bunch of theives, I don't know and I don't care, they have a history of paying, but paying late, if they do okay in this NFL season everything should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I've used topbet for 5 years, I haven't deposited with them in 3 years. To say topbet was always a scam book is totally and completely false. They paid late, but always paid, I've cashed out over 3k from them. Topbet has been calling and emailing many people about payouts, including people on this thread. As for whether or not topbet is a bunch of theives, I don't know and I don't care, they have a history of paying, but paying late, if they do okay in this NFL season everything should be fine.
    interesting that you don't care whether or not you sent money to thieves

    scam books always pay right until they don't

    they paid slow because they used new deposits to pay off old balances/winners... that by definition is a scam book

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    interesting that you don't care whether or not you sent money to thieves

    scam books always pay right until they don't

    they paid slow because they used new deposits to pay off old balances/winners... that by definition is a scam book
    Lol, come on dude, you are speaking nonsense. So if you don't like the CEO of JP Morgan you won't keep a checking account their, business is business. You have no clue what topbet's business model is, this has been the toughest year in decades for books, but if that is your definition of a scam book there are a lot of scam books out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Lol, come on dude, you are speaking nonsense. So if you don't like the CEO of JP Morgan you won't keep a checking account their, business is business. You have no clue what topbet's business model is, this has been the toughest year in decades for books, but if that is your definition of a scam book there are a lot of scam books out there
    i know exactly what their business model is

    same as betislands/legends/wsex/betonsports

    -sponsor sportsbook forums
    -get deposits with ridiculously generous bonuses/lines
    -pay people for a few years from new deposits
    -go bust

    name another book rated F that ever came back... you make a lot of excuses for a book that isn't paying you and is outright LYING to people while still taking new deposits

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    I'm not making any excuses, but I'm also not being inaccurate. Sportsbook.com was F rated and they came back. As far as the business model, if that's your definition of a scam book then every book that is not A rated is a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I'm not making any excuses, but I'm also not being inaccurate. Sportsbook.com was F rated and they came back. As far as the business model, if that's your definition of a scam book then every book that is not A rated is a scam.
    you're not being inaccurate and the very next sentence you write is inaccurate

    and you're not making excuses but it was the worst year in decades for the sportsbook industry

    sportsbook.com was D- but never F

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    you're not being inaccurate and the very next sentence you write is inaccurate

    and you're not making excuses but it was the worst year in decades for the sportsbook industry

    sportsbook.com was D- but never F

    Are you joking - I mentioned how bad the year was to explain why I think they are having problems now, its not because they are a scam as you wrongly stated. Sportsbook was rated F. SBR consider D- and F rated book scams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Are you joking - I mentioned how bad the year was to explain why I think they are having problems now, its not because they are a scam as you wrongly stated. Sportsbook was rated F. SBR consider D- and F rated book scams.
    when was sportsbook rated F? please show proof. they are D- and have been for quite a while, never came back from F because they were never rated F.

    so topbet isn't a scam... sbr considers D- and F rated books scams... yet they rate topbet F and they aren't a scam. logic keeps getting murkier

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    when was sportsbook rated F? please show proof. they are D- and have been for quite a while, never came back from F because they were never rated F.

    so topbet isn't a scam... sbr considers D- and F rated books scams... yet they rate topbet F and they aren't a scam. logic keeps getting murkier

    Obviously topbet is having problems now, they've been a legit book for many years though. GE was bankrupt after the financial crash, that doesn't mean they were a scam 10 year ago. Everyone knows sportsbook wasn't legit for a while.

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    I guess we will see once football season starts if they are going to make it through this or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keewatinking21 View Post
    I guess we will see once football season starts if they are going to make it through this or not.
    The fight will be huge- I conservatively think 80% of the bets at a book such as topbet will be on Mcgregor.

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    Wake up guys.

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    Wake up what, I talked to the VIP customer service section today, they basically told me no bank wires will be processed until football season. We should know in 2 months if this book is going to be around or not.

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    1 thing that is interesting is topbet's free tournaments are seeing a huge number of people in them, a lot of people are still using the book going into football season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    1 thing that is interesting is topbet's free tournaments are seeing a huge number of people in them, a lot of people are still using the book going into football season.
    yeah because their balances are stuck there, and many people got additional funds just for cancelling witdrawals, which is total proof that it's just monopoly money... picture a bank saying if you don't take $100 out of the ATM today they will give you $150 later

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    Yeah, you don't know what your talking about. Once you request a withdrawal they take the money out of your account and won't put it back in so even if you aren't getting paid you can't play there with that money. My point though is that the number of people playing in their tournaments has doubled in the last week going into football season, your point about it being balances being stuck is stupid, doesn't explain the number of players doubling this week when the book has been slow paying for 5 months.

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    I played here two years ago but never took a payout because I lost my two deposits quickly. Logged back in today. 100% Bitcoin bonuses 5x rollover. Seems like they are pretty desperate with that low of a rollover.

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    Yeah, I think that is a sign-up bonus, I don't think that is for existing players.

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