1. 12-26-12 07:27 PM #36
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    Tony is bad for business. I imagine how much money they could've made over the years without him.
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  2. 12-26-12 07:27 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    he said he lost the bet
    if the bet lost then I agree with him 100%. If the bet won, then I agree with Tony at first glance.
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  3. 12-26-12 07:29 PM #38
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    What race and which horse did you bet?
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  4. 12-26-12 07:29 PM #39
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    its easy to acidentally past post in racing.. espically when you are betting 10 tracks. win or lose it doesnt give anyone the right to take your whole balance

    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    if the bet lost then I agree with him 100%. If the bet won, then I agree with Tony at first glance.
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  5. 12-26-12 07:30 PM #40
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    Don't worry.

    SBR will fix this for you.

    It's what they do.
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  6. 12-26-12 07:30 PM #41
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    it went along with my normal bet amount. The funny thing is I was paid $0 from these wagers and not only that I had a few losing wagers refunded as well. Dont you think I would have played the superfecta straight for $100 if i was trying to cheat the book. Tony did not even give me a chance to tell my side of the story. I rely on the book closing when the race goes off. I am not watching these races live and watching on a several minute delay. I just cant believe Tony is in charge of this book and he acts like that. If you guys read the conversation, i am pretty certain no one would ever play there again. He took advantage of the fact this one time it was past posted and stole thousands from me because of it. Not fair at all, as my balance had ZERO to do with any of the wagers in question.
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  7. 12-26-12 07:33 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by wtt0315 View Post
    its easy to acidentally past post in racing.. espically when you are betting 10 tracks. win or lose it doesnt give anyone the right to take your whole balance
    It wasn't an accident if it's the only race that he past posted and it won.
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  8. 12-26-12 07:33 PM #43
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    Posting on a forum isn't likely to help you get your money... File a complaint with SBR and save posting about it until you see if that does or doesn't go your way...
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  9. 12-26-12 07:34 PM #44
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    This thread would have been better if we got to see the conversation with Tony.

    Do you still have it?
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  10. 12-26-12 07:34 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcocable View Post
    it went along with my normal bet amount. The funny thing is I was paid $0 from these wagers and not only that I had a few losing wagers refunded as well. Dont you think I would have played the superfecta straight for $100 if i was trying to cheat the book. Tony did not even give me a chance to tell my side of the story. I rely on the book closing when the race goes off. I am not watching these races live and watching on a several minute delay. I just cant believe Tony is in charge of this book and he acts like that. If you guys read the conversation, i am pretty certain no one would ever play there again. He took advantage of the fact this one time it was past posted and stole thousands from me because of it. Not fair at all, as my balance had ZERO to do with any of the wagers in question.
    So you won but were never paid? How much was the winning ticket worth?
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  11. 12-26-12 07:39 PM #46
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    Yet another reason why to stay away from offshore...
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  12. 12-26-12 07:39 PM #47
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    Sorry to be so skeptical but most of the time it's the player trying to scam the book and not the other way around. We need more information.
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  13. 12-26-12 07:40 PM #48
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    heres a sample from tonys previous chats with players

    tony : what can i do for you loser
    player: what ?

    tony: my time is valuable, what do you need .
    player : my nfl bet was graded a loss

    tony : thats because you lost loser ,go play somewhere else . we dont need you here.
    player: i didnt even tell you what game ,how do you know it lost ,

    tony: gotta go more important things to do. go log on chat to get this straight
    player : what ?

    tony: chat ended
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  14. 12-26-12 07:42 PM #49
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    Tony's an asshole but not a thief.
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  15. 12-26-12 07:44 PM #50
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    You tried to cheat tony now you're crying

    You cant make this shit up
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  16. 12-26-12 07:46 PM #51
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    Seems like the players have been upset lately
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  17. 12-26-12 07:50 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by eastern2 View Post
    Yet another reason why to stay away from offshore...
    That is why I am happy Vegas is making it easier for me to get bets in. Mobile betting here is great.
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  18. 12-26-12 07:52 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    You tried to cheat tony now you're crying

    You cant make this shit up
    without all the info you cant say either side is in the right here.

    The software most of these sites use for horseracing is shit and it is easy to past post with no intention of doing so.

    on the flip side it is somewhat easy to try and cheat a book because of that.

    There are guys who are betting $2 wps on every race at every track all day. They are not watching these races or may be seeing them on delay. They are betting close to PT because they are betting so many tracks and have no way of knowing if the race has already gone off.
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  19. 12-26-12 07:53 PM #54
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    one day this clown is going to mess with the wrong guy who has had enough. people need to play at Heritage by far the best book ive ever played at. Even if you are in the wrong they take care of you.
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  20. 12-26-12 07:56 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble29 View Post
    without all the info you cant say either side is in the right here.

    The software most of these sites use for horseracing is shit and it is easy to past post with no intention of doing so.

    on the flip side it is somewhat easy to try and cheat a book because of that.

    There are guys who are betting $2 wps on every race at every track all day. They are not watching these races or may be seeing them on delay. They are betting close to PT because they are betting so many tracks and have no way of knowing if the race has already gone off.
    he said that he's bet 100s and 100s of races and it's only happened once. This was no accident if it won. I'd like to see how much it paid.
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  21. 12-26-12 07:57 PM #56
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    marcocable- How much did the winning bet pay?
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  22. 12-26-12 08:00 PM #57
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    At no point was the wager paid a winner, so I did not use money that wasnt mine. The bet was made at Australia, which 80% of my bets come from . The payout was probably just a few hundred in addition to what I bet, as i had losing wagers as well for this race.. The race before I played a win wager and won $600, which was confirmed good. My balance was in the 5 digit range. So he had no reason to steal my balance because of these wagers- he had no legitimate reason to do this. I will update you guys if anything changes. This has been a stressful day for me , as I was going through this nonsense all day. At first I put a withdrawal in. It was rejected. I contacted them and they said they need to investigate my horse winnings. All my other horse wagers were graded correctly and in time. So after i spoke with live chat, Rommel , the customer service manager, told me to request the payout again and they will process it immediately. 5 minutes later I get an email that tony wants to chat. I go in live chat, and tony starts out the chat by saying so I see you like to past post on horses. That is exactly what he said. No other races were deemed past post. I told him I apologize, but i was not paid out anything from the wagers and that I even had losing wagers that race as well. I told him im sorry for the error but this was not done on purpose. Then he responds, you past posted, you cheated. your account is now deleted. Goodbye. I guarantee he thought there was no way I had my account history saved, as he made my account invalid to login with in a matter of seconds. But I do have my history and I emailed it with the dispute I submitted to SBR. I am praying I get paid. I am tired of the whole offshore world now. I just cant believe Tony is manager at a big book like 5dimes and treats customers like this. I was left speechless after the chat.

    I will update you guys once SBR gives me an update or if I am paid. Thanks for reading and your support guys.
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  23. 12-26-12 08:03 PM #58
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    i dont really understand the ponies...but it doesnt sound like you did anything wrong.
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  24. 12-26-12 08:07 PM #59
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    sorry once i saw horse wager i couldn't finish reading your post

    i seriously came back to this thread 3 times

    i just can't do it for some reason

    good luck getting your money
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  25. 12-26-12 08:08 PM #60
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    If what he posted above is true, then he's right. It would be fun to see the whole story. He avoids questions so it's tough to know what happened.
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  26. 12-26-12 08:11 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    That is why I am happy Vegas is making it easier for me to get bets in. Mobile betting here is great.
    Do you use Will Hill or Stations? Which is better?
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  27. 12-26-12 08:11 PM #62
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    If this all checks out Tony should have his head bashed in with a bat

    Easy to be a tough guy over instant messenger

    Guy won't even take phone calls

    Probably very shy and apologetic in real life
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  28. 12-26-12 08:14 PM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealSlimShady View Post
    Do you use Will Hill or Stations? Which is better?
    Both are good. I like the WillHill App better though.

    I even have the Cantor one, but that thing takes forever to load.
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  29. 12-26-12 08:14 PM #64
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    You go in to court and hear the first story and believe it 100%. Then you hear the other side and have to figure out the truth. If he showed us a screen shot of all the bets that day it would be easy to figure out.
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  30. 12-26-12 08:15 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holtgetsback View Post
    If this all checks out Tony should have his head bashed in with a bat

    Easy to be a tough guy over instant messenger

    Guy won't even take phone calls

    Probably very shy and apologetic in real life
    or he is a drug addict, he sounds like one at times and other times he has been perfectly reasonable when I have spoken with him regarding an issue.
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  31. 12-26-12 08:15 PM #66
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    what does pass a post at a horse mean
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  32. 12-26-12 08:18 PM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    You go in to court and hear the first story and believe it 100%. Then you hear the other side and have to figure out the truth. If he showed us a screen shot of all the bets that day it would be easy to figure out.
    Totally agree.
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  33. 12-26-12 08:18 PM #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvius View Post
    what does pass a post at a horse mean
    Bet after the race has started or finished.
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    Vesuvius gave raiders72001 5 SBR Point(s) for this post.

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  34. 12-26-12 08:22 PM #69
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    If OP's story is legit, this is extremely disappointing to hear. Fukking corrupt industry.
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  35. 12-26-12 08:26 PM #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Bet after the race has started or finished.
    how is that possible? wouldnt you need someone working at the track?
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