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    Jon =taxer=SSLP

    Most likely yet another alias created by Jon. I am not going to take credit for this as a newly registered poster pointed this out, in a betislands thread claiming something negative about Betislands. I can't remember the exact thread. Considering they were supposedly paying DudleyDawson this might be noteworthy.

    Almost all of taxer's post are praising betislands and he seems to be an insider. Just search this guy's post if you are interested. Just thought I would throw that out there.

    These are just a few of taxer's posts with dates
    11-06-12 i have to admit , watching men complaint about every single detail on this forum like girls has really driven me away from SBR. These guys are one of the most customer oriented shops with great
    11-06-12 Love these guys only book i use
    11-02-12 Books have issues every day , betislands happens to handle theirs better than most
    10-31-12 HAHAHAH
    dudley take a chill pill they are a great book son
    10-09-12
    What book is it Boston tell us ?
    Bi is a great book , and they do offer overnight lines
    One of the best books for USA bettors right now

    If it is in fact Jon then post #2 in this thread illustrates he knew that taking sharps was a bad idea

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/1898424-books-vs-sharps.html#post16001578
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    100%...after reading some of his posts, i think even tto will say there's enough evidence

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    Thread: 7Redsports rollover is a joke!

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    if they are honoring the rules of your deposit...

    if they are honoring the rules of your deposit why are you crying ?

    Have not heard one slow pay or complaint about these guys , seem pretty solid i know a few people that have cashed out same day



    This is from the Jon who never heard of 7red earlier this year, he's all over this thread defending it, ironically the same as he did with BI. What a fkkn creep this tatted douche is.


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    This is the guy who said jon was taxer... the same guy who was correct about BI's owner getting arrested in October and Jon having to find new backers who were of dubious financial strength.


    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...etislands.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    This is the guy who said jon was taxer... the same guy who was correct about BI's owner getting arrested in October and Jon having to find new backers who were of dubious financial strength.


    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...etislands.html
    I have confirmed from two different sources that BI's owner was not arrested in October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I have confirmed from two different sources that BI's owner was not arrested in October.

    Your information hasn't been all that reliable lately.

    But if that's true, shouldn't you tell us who the penetrate this guy was then? He owes us money. He stole it from us. SBR took affiliate fees, and also vouched for this guy. Why is SBR hiding so much information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I have confirmed from two different sources that BI's owner was not arrested in October.
    Okay so was the "owner" arrested at any point? Can you ask your sources that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I have confirmed from two different sources that BI's owner was not arrested in October.
    I thought you already knew the owner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I know Jon, the owner of BetIslands... I've known him for several years. I assure you, Betislands (and Jon) have nothing to do with those other books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milk Money View Post
    Okay so was the "owner" arrested at any point? Can you ask your sources that?
    what's the point of asking his source?? his source is not reliable any more..

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    How does a watchdog site not know who the fukking owner of one of their sponsors is? Don't you think that's rather pertinent information? How can you possibly give a rating with any sort of accuracy without that knowledge? Or is this just a witch hunt?

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    Why did Jon keep writing here that his original backer ran into "legal troubles"?

    MF, SBR made a big deal about "confirming" BI's reputable owner way back when. They used it as an excuse to quickly upgrade their rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    Why did Jon keep writing here that his original backer ran into "legal troubles"?

    MF, SBR made a big deal about "confirming" BI's reputable owner way back when. They used it as an excuse to quickly upgrade their rating.
    I highly doubt they personally checked BI's financial status... since Jon and John are friends.. Jon probably said something like "hey John, don't worry about our financial backers or owners. They are billionaires!"

    John's response
    "Okay"
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    well if the "owner" wasn't arrested it is even worse.....
    What reason did he have for leaving?

    Justin7 you claimed you knew the owner. It is extremely easy to look at the arrest report (I fukkin read it and I know nothing about law) and see if the "owners" name is on it.

    Him getting arrested made some sense, get out of the industry, legal fees, etc.

    Him just up and leaving the book with 1.5 million (or more) in players accounts needing to be paid does not make sense unless it was a scam all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    100%...after reading some of his posts, i think even tto will say there's enough evidence
    Sticking up for SBR at all is useless I've come to realize, most people here can't separate fact from fiction (not saying you guys are wrong, but just in general). I definitely think Jon and SSLP are the same guy, never seen this taxer fellow though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I have confirmed from two different sources that BI's owner was not arrested in October.
    So who was the owner? Before they closed, everyone was saying that Jon was the owner, even you. I am confused.

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    Appears Jon was scaming affiliates to. If you google "BetIslands.ag Affiliate Program is a SCAM" the 4th one down it is same title as what I said to google. Affilate watchdog site and betisland did not pay affiliate and they shut down affiliate program right after football. Looks like another gimmick betisland was doing to get new players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb456223 View Post
    Appears Jon was scaming affiliates to. If you google "BetIslands.ag Affiliate Program is a SCAM" the 4th one down it is same title as what I said to google. Affilate watchdog site and betisland did not pay affiliate and they shut down affiliate program right after football. Looks like another gimmick betisland was doing to get new players.
    sbr seems to be one of the few that were getting payed by bi

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    allin1 yeah leads me to believe that in some way they are in on it. Another thread stated cappersjungle issued a warning early start of this NFL season that they were not paid and everyone should not deposit their. They also state they informed SBR. hmmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb456223 View Post
    allin1 yeah leads me to believe that in some way they are in on it. Another thread stated cappersjungle issued a warning early start of this NFL season that they were not paid and everyone should not deposit their. They also state they informed SBR. hmmm....
    It is still possible that jon just decided that sbr is too important for their client base and advertising so he just payed them even though he wasn't paying other affiliates. Not enough of a reason to think that SBR was in on it.

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    Originally Posted by Justin7
    I have confirmed from two different sources that BI's owner was not arrested in October.
    I thought you already knew the owner.

    Originally Posted by Justin7
    I know Jon, the owner of BetIslands... I've known him for several years. I assure you, Betislands (and Jon) have nothing to do with those other books.





    You are a big liar,you don't know what are you saying.
    You have said earlier ( in "golden ages" ) that Jon ( OWNER of BI) is your friend.Now that BI broke ,you are saying that Jon was not the owner ,but simply the general manager.SO ,my question is : Was Jon the owner or the GM ? Please ,can you ask your "sources" ?

    This guy http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...etislands.html knew everything and he warned the others.Since his statement about arrests and employees resulted true , the remaining part (taxer is jon) is also 100% true.

    PS : Fortunately , BI were not accepting europeans.I went to create an account based on your ratings ,buy i got lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post
    well if the "owner" wasn't arrested it is even worse.....
    What reason did he have for leaving?

    Justin7 you claimed you knew the owner. It is extremely easy to look at the arrest report (I fukkin read it and I know nothing about law) and see if the "owners" name is on it.

    Him getting arrested made some sense, get out of the industry, legal fees, etc.

    Him just up and leaving the book with 1.5 million (or more) in players accounts needing to be paid does not make sense unless it was a scam all along.
    this is a very good point....... this question needs to be addressed!

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    Yeah, it might make some sense if a Sports Book Review site might look into it........

    The only thing anyone really knows is that BetIslands was not paying their affiliates for quite sometime.... oh except for one affiliate! I wonder which affiliate that was.......

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    Intersting info here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pellumb341 View Post


    You are a big liar,you don't know what are you saying.
    You have said earlier ( in "golden ages" ) that Jon ( OWNER of BI) is your friend.Now that BI broke ,you are saying that Jon was not the owner ,but simply the general manager.SO ,my question is : Was Jon the owner or the GM ? Please ,can you ask your "sources" ?

    This guy http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...etislands.html knew everything and he warned the others.Since his statement about arrests and employees resulted true , the remaining part (taxer is jon) is also 100% true.

    PS : Fortunately , BI were not accepting europeans.I went to create an account based on your ratings ,buy i got lucky
    Let me clarify.

    Jon was the owner, someone else was the financial backer. Jon made a lot of decisions -- the kind you'd expect from a CEO. He didn't control the lines or much of the risk management. Lines were controlled by M&M (playcr) mostly, until some point in early November (I think).

    The financial backer was arrested in September. He faced further legal problems a few weeks later. At some point the backer became unable or unwilling to continue funding BI, probably due in no small part due to legal pressures in the US.
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    Nice story

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    Justin,

    why were players not warned as you all knew, surely u knew this could affect BI plyers in a big way




    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Let me clarify.

    Jon was the owner, someone else was the financial backer. Jon made a lot of decisions -- the kind you'd expect from a CEO. He didn't control the lines or much of the risk management. Lines were controlled by M&M (playcr) mostly, until some point in early November (I think).

    The financial backer was arrested in September. He faced further legal problems a few weeks later. At some point the backer became unable or unwilling to continue funding BI, probably due in no small part due to legal pressures in the US.

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    so he wasnt arrested then he was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtt0315 View Post
    so he wasnt arrested then he was?
    Was not arrested in October, was arrested even earlier in September! Yet no barking from our watchdog. Only cryptic denials from Justin, who confirmed from his sources that the report of the October arrest was false (obviously these same sources would have been able to confirm the earlier arrest which Justin chose not to say anything about )--- which served the purpose of discrediting the poster that was trying to warn us - so that the BI scam could keep going! SBR needs to sweeten the pot for any book willing to consider a bailout.
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    Well, tto -- or whoever you are ghosting for at SBR --- stick up for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Let me clarify.

    Jon was the owner, someone else was the financial backer. Jon made a lot of decisions -- the kind you'd expect from a CEO. He didn't control the lines or much of the risk management. Lines were controlled by M&M (playcr) mostly, until some point in early November (I think).

    The financial backer was arrested in September. He faced further legal problems a few weeks later. At some point the backer became unable or unwilling to continue funding BI, probably due in no small part due to legal pressures in the US.
    cool cat CEO failed as a business man and the mysterious backer say F U i am not digging in my pockets to make this shady ponzi scheme business a success. Read between the lines the 'backer" doesn't have the cash either and if even exist is more crooked than "jon"

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    Wow so SBR knew even earlier and didn't protect its members- WTF is the mission statement of this company
    "SBR."

    This is getting just as bad as the Obama Benghazi Embassy cover up. Next thing you know Justin 7 will mysteriously get a concussion a la hillary clinton style lol

    WOW

    And BTW, a prominent poker website and their very sharp members are on this story. Those same members uncovered the absolute poker and ultimate bet scandals. They are gOOt. very gOOt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tto827 View Post
    Sticking up for SBR at all is useless I've come to realize, most people here can't separate fact from fiction (not saying you guys are wrong, but just in general). I definitely think Jon and SSLP are the same guy, never seen this taxer fellow though.
    You "think" Jon and SSLP are the same guy??

    We have videos of SSLP, SSLP's e-mail was the e-mail for the betislands domain, etc.

    You act like you're saying something. It's not a matter of thinking, it's a fact that Jon=SSLP. Now I think Jon=taxer as well, but there's less evidence there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbart28 View Post
    Wow so SBR knew even earlier and didn't protect its members- WTF is the mission statement of this company
    "SBR."

    This is getting just as bad as the Obama Benghazi Embassy cover up. Next thing you know Justin 7 will mysteriously get a concussion a la hillary clinton style lol

    WOW

    And BTW, a prominent poker website and their very sharp members are on this story. Those same members uncovered the absolute poker and ultimate bet scandals. They are gOOt. very gOOt.
    mother of fukking god... you cant beat entertainment like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Jon was the owner, someone else was the financial backer.
    Justin, why would there be a "financial backer" for post up balances?
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