[Shaudius]

As opposed to Obama who cut 700 billion from medicare?

So its 700 billion now? In June of 2011 it was supposedly 500 billion. Making the lie bigger doesn't make the lie truer.

[ByeShea]

line is up to -174 at pinnacle for democrats to win in November, it was -130 2 months ago

imo democrats are a lock, no ifs, ands or buts about

Must be that great economy, right?

Anyway, there's a pollster out there who says Romney is going to walk in the White House. He says it's a statistically impossible for Obama to be consistently up by 5-6 pts in all the "swing" states while consistently even or even behind in national polls and cites total shenanigans by these media administered polls, oversampling Democrats.

So I would bet Romney now because once the Republican Convention gets underway it's gonna be a whole different ballgame.

Obama is toast, guys. Anyone who isn't a knee-jerk Democrat will not vote for him.

For added laughs tune into the VP debate. Biden couldn't handle Palin - now after 4 years of failure he has to face Ryan. Holy smokes.

[ACoochy]

Must be that great economy, right?

Anyway, there's a pollster out there who says Romney is going to walk in the White House. He says it's a statistically impossible for Obama to be consistently up by 5-6 pts in all the "swing" states while consistently even or even behind in national polls and cites total shenanigans by these media administered polls, oversampling Democrats.

So I would bet Romney now because once the Republican Convention gets underway it's gonna be a whole different ballgame.

Obama is toast, guys. Anyone who isn't a knee-jerk Democrat will not vote for him.

For added laughs tune into the VP debate. Biden couldn't handle Palin - now after 4 years of failure he has to face Ryan. Holy smokes.

Il wager all ur points that ur wrong....+100 return on whoever wins.

Ur so confident so that line shouldnt be an issue..Deal??

[Sam Odom]

So its 700 billion now?

Typical , you avoided the REAL issue

We all know budget #s from Washington DC change with the wind

So tell us how much $$$ did Obama's signature legislation cut from Medicare ?

[ByeShea]

Il wager all ur points that ur wrong....+100 return on whoever wins.

Ur so confident so that line shouldnt be an issue..Deal??

Done. I'll take 100 points on Romney, straight up.

[I should add I have an identical bet with someone else, but I forget who it is. Not really worried, as I doubt he will get the chance to collect or show his face when he loses.]


Oh, and you might want to read this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/democ...arolina-2012-8

In case you haven't noticed, Romney has been outraising Obama every month. (For comparison Obama outraised McCain by more than 3 to 1)

[ACoochy]

Done. I'll take 100 points on Romney, straight up.


Oh, and you might want to read this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/democ...arolina-2012-8

In case you haven't noticed, Romney has been outraising Obama every month. (For comparison Obama outraised McCain by more than 3 to 1)

The disparity in their treasure chests to begin with makes that laughable. Romney could out raise Obama tenfold and still not be on a level playing field...

Done indeed. GL

[Shaudius]

Typical , you avoided the REAL issue

We all know budget #s from Washington DC change with the wind

So tell us how much $$$ did Obama's signature legislation cut from Medicare ?

From benefits? $0. Oh and in case you're wondering, these supposed $500-700 billion in Medicare "cuts" that Obama made, they're the exact same "cuts" that appear in the Ryan budget(the Ryan budget also has other Medicare changes, but the same "cuts" exist in both plans.) Because the cuts aren't really "cuts" to the program at all, they're changes in reimbursement procedures for hospitals to stop overpayments and fraud.

You can argue whether or not that's a good thing or not to do, but it seems that the Republicans are being awfully hypocritical for attacking Obama for something that's in the plan that they've repeatedly passed in the House.

[jbart28]

Oddsmakers way off on this one. No incumbent has ever been reelected with unemployment over 7% let alone 15 like we have now. The 16 trillion in debt will bury this puppet. Bye bye Barry! Go back to Kenya- It is way safer than Chicago

[Sam Odom]

...these supposed $500-700 billion in Medicare "cuts" that Obama made...

They are NOT 'supposed' cuts I forgot for a moment just how dishonest you are online. Thanks for the reminder

[ByeShea]

Oddsmakers way off on this one. No incumbent has ever been reelected with unemployment over 7% let alone 15 like we have now. The 16 trillion in debt will bury this puppet. Bye bye Barry! Go back to Kenya- It is way safer than Chicago

In March 2009 he had a 70% approval rate. Now it's 43% approval, 51% disapproval - because it's the worst economy in 70 years. Outta here.

[rkelly110]

Going by the Supreme courts decision, Intrade had 'bama care mandate being shot down as a fav. The dog won.

If Romney is the dog, I would lay money on him, from a betting point of view.

[DwightShrute]

Going by the Supreme courts decision, Intrade had 'bama care mandate being shot down as a fav. The dog won.

If Romney is the dog, I would lay money on him, from a betting point of view.

good example I forgot about that one

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Germany's population is around 80 million and it is estimated that one-third of its population will be seniors in 2050.

The United States' population is around 300 million and it is estimated that 20% of our population with be seniors in 2050.

Germany's expected population in 2050 will be just under 71 million , while the U.S.'s population is expected to be 475 million.

Do you see the unique circumstances that prevent European models and understanding, applying to our country's unique set of issues? Ryan is a realist and anyone not willing to address our issues head-on is only delaying and worsening our country's future. Though, you're not addressing it, think about how much more expensive public health care will be in our country, compared to any European country.

Libs, what say you?

[dante1]

Well guys if Mitt is to win he had better change the numbers quickly, because right now the key numbers are against him. What does it matter if all the facts you guys are mentioning are true, the most important facts are the numbers in the key states. Those numbers at this time are very bad for Mitt, can he win, of course.
But, the way you guys are talking it seems like a done deal. Far from a done deal, in fact Obama at this time is the clear favorite.

[Sam Odom]

Newsweek/Gallup Poll
July 26, 1988

Fifty-five percent of the 948 registered voters interviewed in the poll said they preferred to see Mr. Dukakis win the 1988 Presidential election, while 38 percent said they preferred to see Mr. Bush win. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

[ACoochy]

Alot of straw clutching to the past in this thread...

Desperate times call for desperate measures i suppose...

[Sam Odom]

Newsweek/Gallup Poll
July 26, 1988

Fifty-five percent of the 948 registered voters interviewed in the poll said they preferred to see Mr. Dukakis win the 1988 Presidential election, while 38 percent said they preferred to see Mr. Bush win. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

Less than 4 months later; Bush 53.4% - Dukakis 45.6%

[Sam Odom]

Desperate times call for desperate measures i suppose...

Still a long time to go... More bad econ news then Obama goes down , better news he wins

Mid-east war ?

[dante1]

Still a long time to go... More bad econ news then Obama goes down , better news he wins

Mid-east war ?

Correct Sam, things can change.

[d2bets]

Less than 4 months later; Bush 53.4% - Dukakis 45.6%

Dukakis wasn't an incumbent. With 4 years of vitriol, those that don't like Obama are already not going to vote for him. Basically, there are/were two paths for Mitt to choose: 1) appeal to the fickle independent, or 2) try to increase turnout by appealing to base. Mitt chose the latter, presumably because they concludeed that he couldn't do the former. Tough path.

[Big Bear]

why hasn't this shit been salooned yet? wtf wake up SBR

[Big Bear]

mods do your fukking job

[Sam Odom]

Dukakis wasn't an incumbent. With 4 years of vitriol, those that don't like Obama are already not going to vote for him....

Today Obama's approval is 45% at Gallup

Dukakis 45.6%

[Shaudius]

They are NOT 'supposed' cuts I forgot for a moment just how dishonest you are online. Thanks for the reminder

I didn't forgot how piss poor your arguments are. I like how your counterargument to calling them supposed cuts is to simply make an emoticon and not actually respond to any of the substance of what I said which was, "...the cuts aren't really "cuts" to the program at all, they're changes in reimbursement procedures for hospitals to stop overpayments and fraud. "

[Sam Odom]

Even Obama's people are calling them CUTS in Medicare & they are using the $700B number

[rkelly110]

That paltry $20 a week tax cut we get, isn't going into Medicare. Apparently it's solvent enough to cut.

[PAULYPOKER]

Done. I'll take 100 points on Romney, straight up.

[I should add I have an identical bet with someone else, but I forget who it is. Not really worried, as I doubt he will get the chance to collect or show his face when he loses.]


Oh, and you might want to read this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/democ...arolina-2012-8

In case you haven't noticed, Romney has been outraising Obama every month. (For comparison Obama outraised McCain by more than 3 to 1)

100 points, wow! this shows mass amounts confidence......................

[ByeShea]

100 points, wow! this shows mass amounts confidence......................

You feel like betting the 1 point you have to your name, Mr-13,000-posts-SBR-PRO-drive-a-Celica-From-The-1980s-Man?

[PAULYPOKER]

You feel like betting the 1 point you have to your name, Mr-13,000-posts-SBR-PRO-drive-a-Celica-From-The-1980s-Man?

Name the amount of points you want to bet pal..................

[ByeShea]

Name the amount of points you want to bet pal..................

1 point.

You have enough debt in your life.

[PAULYPOKER]

1 point.

You have enough debt in your life.

I have enough points to bury you for a lifetime but since you are a broke dick fukk who can only afford 2 points a day, the bet would be useless...............

Become a pro,then we'll talk..................

[ByeShea]

I have enough points to bury you for a lifetime

[PAULYPOKER]

This is just one week.............

From 08/06/2012 to 08/12/2012

	Beginning Of Week	Mon	Tue	Wed	Thu	Fri	Sat	Sun	Total
Win/Loss		395.77	-200.00	976.00	312.50	-600.00	940.00	495.00	2319.27
Cash In/Out		12.00	12.00	12.00	12.00	12.00	14.00	12.00	86.00
Balance	2464.70	2872.47	2684.47	3672.47	3996.97	3408.97	4362.97	4869.97	4869.97

[ACoochy]

Done. I'll take 100 points on Romney, straight up.

[I should add I have an identical bet with someone else, but I forget who it is. Not really worried, as I doubt he will get the chance to collect or show his face when he loses.]


Oh, and you might want to read this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/democ...arolina-2012-8

In case you haven't noticed, Romney has been outraising Obama every month. (For comparison Obama outraised McCain by more than 3 to 1)

So wish I'd noticed b4 that u were a broke arse non-pro. Don't even know y I bothered :doh:

Fukkin Walker and his welfare program keeping these fukktards off the street.

Deals off broke arse...get $200 together then we'll start talking 2000+ point wager...

[ByeShea]

This is just one week.............

From 08/06/2012 to 08/12/2012

	Beginning Of Week	Mon	Tue	Wed	Thu	Fri	Sat	Sun	Total
Win/Loss		395.77	-200.00	976.00	312.50	-600.00	940.00	495.00	2319.27
Cash In/Out		12.00	12.00	12.00	12.00	12.00	14.00	12.00	86.00
Balance	2464.70	2872.47	2684.47	3672.47	3996.97	3408.97	4362.97	4869.97	4869.97

What's that worth, a free pizza?