[WvGambler]

I investigate crimes against children for the state of wv. Yes. If someone accused my best friend of this, it would be reported....by me.

[SportsMushroom]

slickrick you are trying to defend people that have been covering up child sexual abuse for a decade


thats all I need to know about you to know that you are scum


stop making excuses for that prick

McQueary says that he told paterno and the others that he saw sexual intercourse, now paterno and co are saying that they were told about 'horsing around', and morons like you actually believe that they just left it to 'horsing around' and mcqueary never actually told them what he saw, you have an agenda here you stupid fukc get out of here you make everyone sick


you should tell me who you are, I need to warn the families you know not to let their children alone around you

[Cuse0323]

really wish I didn't read that report. sickening

[rsnnh12]

McQueary says that he told paterno and the others that he saw sexual intercourse

Proof? Where's his quote saying this? Because it wasnt in the grand jury indictment.

[SportsMushroom]

Proof? Where's his quote saying this? Because it wasnt in the grand jury indictment.

really? continuing to support this scumbag makes you as bad as he is, just like not reporting what he saw makes him as bad as the child molester, which makes you as bad as a child molester


ok I'll play along with sbrs very own mentally handicapped (cause either you are or you did not read the report which makes you a douchebag at the very least)

page 6 of the report: "As the graduate assistant put the sneakers in his locker, he looked into the shower. He saw a naked boy, Victim 2, whose age is estimated to be ten years old, with his hands up against the wall, being subject to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky"

page 7 of the report: "The next morning, a Saturday, the graduate assistant telephoned Paterno and went to Paterno's home where he reported what he had seen."


NOW GO FUK YOURSELF YOU SICKO, GET A PICKET SIGN AND GO CHEER FOR A CHILD MOLESTER

[rsnnh12]

really? continuing to support this scumbag makes you as bad as he is, just like not reporting what he saw makes him as bad as the child molester, which makes you as bad as a child molester


ok I'll play along with sbrs very own mentally handicapped (cause either you are or you did not read the report which makes you a douchebag at the very least)

page 6 of the report: "As the graduate assistant put the sneakers in his locker, he looked into the shower. He saw a naked boy, Victim 2, whose age is estimated to be ten years old, with his hands up against the wall, being subject to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky"

page 7 of the report: "The next morning, a Saturday, the graduate assistant telephoned Paterno and went to Paterno's home where he reported what he had seen."


NOW GO FUK YOURSELF YOU SICKO, GET A PICKET SIGN AND GO CHEER FOR A CHILD MOLESTER

Way to let your emotions get the best of you, retard. Do you know what "reported what he had seen" means exactly? Does the indictment say exactly what was said? No? Than shut the hell up, especially with accusing other people of being as bad as child abusers. It makes you look like a fukking idiot.

If the guy comes out and says that he told Paterno specifics, than Paterno deserves what he is getting and more. Has that happened yet? No. So stop making shit up and stop making assumptions of something you were not there for.

[Joe Dogs]

Penn State is its own little world......In this little world Joe Pa was king.

His blind followers in this little world are upset and riot for the fallen king.

In this little world Joe Pa was all that mattered.....Sad but true.

[SportsMushroom]

Way to let your emotions get the best of you, retard. Do you know what "reported what he had seen" means exactly? Does the indictment say exactly what was said? No? Than shut the hell up, especially with accusing other people of being as bad as child abusers. It makes you look like a fukking idiot. If the guy comes out and says that he told Paterno specifics, than Paterno deserves what he is getting and more. Has that happened yet? No. So stop making shit up and stop making assumptions of something you were not there for.

no it makes you look like a child molester

page 7 of the report: "Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy"

now fukc off I dont like conversing with people of insufficient mental capacity

[mikemca]

"Chanting we want Joe, we want Joe"........No matter what you thought of the man. He knew little boys were taking it in the butt and sat idle and did nothing about it!!! Seriously..... WTF???

Its people like you and the media who is lumping everyone together like you.Seriously .....WTF did you want Joe Pa to do?He is not a detective.He was told and ALLEGATION and brought it to the attention of the people he thought could handle it.After that without knowing all the facts and evidence what more could he do.ESPN and other media outlets are a disgrace making it look like he had some part in this.Sandusky is a sick **** and I wouldn't mind if they went old school and stoned his azz along with the people that covered it up but Paterno did nothing wrong.

[SportsMushroom]

Its people like you and the media who is lumping everyone together like you.Seriously .....WTF did you want Joe Pa to do?He is not a detective.He was told and ALLEGATION and brought it to the attention of the people he thought could handle it.After that without knowing all the facts and evidence what more could he do.ESPN and other media outlets are a disgrace making it look like he had some part in this.Sandusky is a sick **** and I wouldn't mind if they went old school and stoned his azz along with the people that covered it up but Paterno did nothing wrong.

he had his own assistant as an eye witness, of coarse he knew and he knew exactly what was going on

and by not going to the police he created many more victims

just as the police said themselves, joe paterno did the bare minimum of what it was legally required by him, but he also had a moral responsibility

and on that he came up way short, and he will pay for it, now his legacy will forever be about how he covered up sexual abuse of minors, heck now that I think of it he is qualified to be the friggin pope

[rsnnh12]

no it makes you look like a child molester

page 7 of the report: "Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy"

now fukc off I dont like conversing with people of insufficient mental capacity

You're fukking retarded. You went from "Paterno knew he was raping boys" to "potential inappropriate touching, which he didn't witness". Again, stop making shit up.

What more could Paterno do? He reported it to his superior, who reported it to the head of the frigging police department! Didn't those guys then perjure?? So how is this on Paterno?

Here's an interesting read for you
http://thatlawyerdude.blogspot.com/2...o-why.html?m=1

[brooks85]

You're fukking retarded. You went from "Paterno knew he was raping boys" to "potential inappropriate touching, which he didn't witness". Again, stop making shit up.

What more could Paterno do? He reported it to his superior, who reported it to the head of the frigging police department! Didn't those guys then perjure?? So how is this on Paterno?

Here's an interesting read for you
http://thatlawyerdude.blogspot.com/2...o-why.html?m=1

real simple

when nothing is done about it, it is still your responsibility.

Legally, sure he is safe

Morally you are a clown for trying to defend him but that doesn't surprise me.

[Bluehorseshoe]

You're fukking retarded. You went from "Paterno knew he was raping boys" to "potential inappropriate touching, which he didn't witness". Again, stop making shit up.

What more could Paterno do? He reported it to his superior, who reported it to the head of the frigging police department! Didn't those guys then perjure?? So how is this on Paterno?

Here's an interesting read for you
http://thatlawyerdude.blogspot.com/2...o-why.html?m=1

And someone's reply right from the link you posted...."

Although Schultz oversaw the University Police as part of his position, he never reported
the 2002 incident to the University Police or other police agency, never sought or reviewed a
police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the
shower in 2002. No one from the University did so. Schultz did not ask the graduate assistant for
specifics. No one ever did. Schultz expressed surprise upon learning that the l998 investigation
by University Police produced a police report. Schultz said there was never any
discussion between himself and Curley about turning the 2002 incident over to any police
agency. "

That was from the Grand Jury Report and it shows you the extent Paterno got involved. Once he turned it over, he didn't give a shit what was going on with Sandusky. He's legally clear. If the higher ups didn't want to pursue it, so be it.

[rsnnh12]

real simple

when nothing is done about it, it is still your responsibility.

Legally, sure he is safe

Morally you are a clown for trying to defend him but that doesn't surprise me.

Are you kidding me? So if the head of fukking police tells him there's nothing to the accusations or that they are handling it, its still JoePas fault? He didn't see anything! He got a report, he passed it up to his superior and the head of police, and they decided to lie about what happened from there, which they are now being charged for. Why do you think they wouldn't lie to Paterno as well, to sweep it under the rug?

All I'm saying is that until more information comes out, everything points to Paterno not being aware of what really happened, and yet he's the scapegoat.

And don't you dare question my morals, just because you're naive enough to buy into the "Pats cheated" bullshit, which is where I assume the "clown" comment came from.

[brooks85]

that and when you questioned why the pats had a bad game earlier this year..

when they gave up over 400yds passing lol and now they are on the verge to lose 3 in a row.

funny how that works out.

[rsnnh12]

And someone's reply right from the link you posted...."



That was from the Grand Jury Report and it shows you the extent Paterno got involved. Once he turned it over, he didn't give a shit what was going on with Sandusky. He's legally clear. If the higher ups didn't want to pursue it, so be it.

I'm not saying Paterno did enough morally to clear him of blame. I'm not saying he didn't do enough. At this stage, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. This should all come out in the trial, so why am I getting attacked for not crucifying Paterno? I don't understand.

Did he do enough? We don't know yet. Lets wait for everything to come out before ruining what was left of his career and image. Sandusky is the real bad guy here, he is still free, and a lot of people seem to be focused solely on Paterno??

[rsnnh12]

that and when you questioned why the pats had a bad game earlier this year..

when they gave up over 400yds passing lol and now they are on the verge to lose 3 in a row.

funny how that works out.

You're a joke. Try watching the games

I'm going to have a nice thread later today regarding spygate and videotaping in the NFL. Keep an eye out for it

[thetrinity]

in their defense the next step for the majority of them is a job at mcdonalds or kmart.

[brooks85]

You're a joke. Try watching the games

I'm going to have a nice thread later today regarding spygate and videotaping in the NFL. Keep an eye out for it

good, hopefully you wont forget about this thing called "half-time" this time.

[dom75]

Please forgive me for I am about to post a long post. Does JP deserve to be fired ? Hell yes ! I am speaking from a bit of experience somewhat as this past summer I had to turn my own family member into the police for sexually assulting my niece. Here is a brief explanatin of what happened on my side. I found out this past summer that my Niece who is only 5 yrs old now, had been being sexually assulted by her father from the time of an infant. She told several of the family members a year ago but those that knew just kinda brushed it away as they didn't want to destroy the family by going to the police. No one told me as they knew I'd not stand for this and probaby kill that SoB father of hers. However, this past summer I found out by a slip up of a family member and I went straight to the police. It was hard as this was family I was turning in, hell all of this case was difficult to deal with, as you don't want to hurt the family but still yet he raped his child from the time she was a infant till the age of 5. I can understand why those of you suppot Joe, but folks he knew what happened and did the bare minimum to report it. I know Joe did what he did as Penn Sate was his life, his "family." He wanted to protect the history, life and legacy of his career and school. in saying that, I understand why he just went to the higher ups of the school. However, if it had been me, he should have let it go for about a year and if the molesters had not been delt with by the school, Police, and whoever else, then he should have went to the police himself. The school had to fire him, as all these new students would not want to go to Penn State had Joe continued to stay there. I know Joe did nothing wrong physically, but the gerneral public would have a negative thought about Penn State period. It is Joe's responsibility as an educator to look out for the well being of kids period.

[CHAZ]

It is Joe's responsibility as an educator to look out for the well being of kids period.

Responsibility as an adult, too.

[SportsMushroom]

You're fukking retarded. You went from "Paterno knew he was raping boys" to "potential inappropriate touching, which he didn't witness". Again, stop making shit up. What more could Paterno do? He reported it to his superior, who reported it to the head of the frigging police department! Didn't those guys then perjure?? So how is this on Paterno? Here's an interesting read for you http://thatlawyerdude.blogspot.com/2...o-why.html?m=1

you sir are a moron, acts of a sexual nature means sex

joe paterno is smart, instead of saying he anal raped him, he says acts of a sexual nature and all the morons like you run to defend him 'you see he didnt know'

mcqueary testified to telling joe paterno what he saw, paterno testified that mcqueary told him what happened that night

joe paterno swept it under the rag, end of story

rot in hell joe paterno and all those that think you did nothing wrong

sir I would wish that your kids go through what those kids went through, but that would make is as much a horrible person as you are

[WvGambler]

Colin Cowherd just said it best.

"There are two types of people defending Paterno today. Those who haven't read the grand jury report, and those who are delusional."

[No coincidences]

Colin Cowherd just said it best.

"There are two types of people defending Paterno today. Those who haven't read the grand jury report, and those who are delusional."

Yep.

[GOIRISH]

I dont understand your logic

his higher ups did nothing so that excuses his behavior?

any man with morals would have went to the police

by not reporting the incident to the police he allowed sandusky to go on to repeatedly rape numerous other children

those victims are on paterno, and he will rot in hell, because he seems to have no problem living with that burden, he is sick


I wouldnt want me or my children or anyone I love be near you goirish, if someone in your vicinity was in trouble you'd report it to your superior and then go home and sleep like a baby

All you guys want to be monday morning quarterbacks, gtfo. Nothing has been proven in the court of law. Your premature judgement is ridiculous. You guys are taking espn as the gospel. If you believe everything the media says than you are a fuckin idiot.

[jarvol]

Colin Cowherd just said it best.

"There are two types of people defending Paterno today. Those who haven't read the grand jury report, and those who are delusional."

^^This. It appears much of the student body at PennSt and the football teams' supporters, and many of the residents of PA are massively delusional.

[jarvol]

All you guys want to be monday morning quarterbacks, gtfo. Nothing has been proven in the court of law. Your premature judgement is ridiculous. You guys are taking espn as the gospel. If you believe everything the media says than you are a fuckin idiot.

Paterno and McQueary do not need to be proven guilty of anything in a court of law to fired from their visible positions that represent the PA's flagship landgrant school for their gross lack of judgement.

[SportsMushroom]

All you guys want to be monday morning quarterbacks, gtfo. Nothing has been proven in the court of law. Your premature judgement is ridiculous. You guys are taking espn as the gospel. If you believe everything the media says than you are a fuckin idiot.

your proven in a court of law argument is as cliche as it is irrelevant, prison is full of innocent people and the streets are filled with criminals

you dont agree with me so of coarse I steal my opinions from espn, I am in europe you sicko, I dont get espn

I dont care for your nonsense, joe paternos legacy is for ever tainted, all he has worked for and now he will always be remembered and judged by this horrific event, he might not get jail time but this punishment is good enough for me, I'll sleep better at night knowing he is being punished, but it is no where near enough to what he should get for what he did to the victims and their families

[deadstare]

Espn is a bs propoganda machine. They wanted paterno out and were paid off

[face]

paterno should have done more, but let's be clear here, the school covered this up, 100%. this is on Penn State U. more than anyone. Head of Athletic Dept. and school president up on perjury charges. don't appreciate ESPN not blasting the school.
next they're gonna talk about McQueary, who was a witness and told people. they keep shifting blame from the SCHOOL, who were the ones who didn't call the cops.

[thechaoz]

If you haven't read the indictment ....takes about 10-15 mins ......I have no doubt which side you will fall on....it's sickening

[GOIRISH]

your proven in a court of law argument is as cliche as it is irrelevant, prison is full of innocent people and the streets are filled with criminals

you dont agree with me so of coarse I steal my opinions from espn, I am in europe you sicko, I dont get espn

I dont care for your nonsense, joe paternos legacy is for ever tainted, all he has worked for and now he will always be remembered and judged by this horrific event, he might not get jail time but this punishment is good enough for me, I'll sleep better at night knowing he is being punished, but it is no where near enough to what he should get for what he did to the victims and their families

You claimed you didnt even know who joe was until yesterday, but yet now you know the most about a person and you dont even live in the same country as him. You are heavily influenced by the media. Not only that but you sit there and call me names because you have nothing intelligent to add to the debate. Its hilarious how a person who admits to not have even known who paterno was two days ago, goes on to say he will sleep better tonight now that he knows his reputation is tarnished.

[AribaAriba]

This what happens when kids watch too much football because their brain cells stop functioning as it is design to cheer for their team no matter what the case. When it was reported to bbc that these kids were cheering one of the reporters cant stop but to laugh, they're laughing stock of the world LMAO.

[icancount2one]

its all about winning
its sad but that is all Penn St fans want

This couldn't be further from the truth. Paterno wasn't a legend just for his record, but for always putting real life before football. For instance, star running back Curtis Enis was held out of a bowl game voluntarily by JoePa for something about 1/2 as bad as Terrelle Pryor pulled when he was allowed to play the final game of his collegiate career.

The reason Penn Staters are taking this so hard is because JoePa was seen as the last bastion of this attitude. The graduation rates of his players and their future success in life were just as much a source of pride to the old man as his winning record.

He lived a modest lifestyle, and donated millions back to the college, providing the endowment for an epic library.

JoePa was a legend because he was a great man, not just a great coach.

Proof? Where's his quote saying this? Because it wasnt in the grand jury indictment.

This man has it right. People are playing whisper down the lane, and the main culprit of these distortions is ESPN.


Having read the allegations in the indictment, it appears that Paterno heard one vague allegation against his one of his closest friends, and passed it through appropriate channels. When the fallout was mild, he probably assumed the best about his friend just as anybody would. Even if he had gone to the police, all he had was hearsay, and it wouldn't have even been enough for an arrest.

After Curley, Schultz, and Spanier covered this up, the onus to go outside university channels to the police would be on the eyewitness, McQueary, a man who will be standing on the sidelines on Saturday and still collecting a paycheck.

[SlickRick1382]

People are playing whisper down the lane, and the main culprit of these distortions is ESPN. Having read the allegations in the indictment, it appears that Paterno heard one vague allegation against his one of his closest friends, and passed it through appropriate channels. When the fallout was mild, he probably assumed the best about his friend just as anybody would. Even if he had gone to the police, all he had was hearsay, and it wouldn't have even been enough for an arrest. After Curley, Schultz, and Spanier covered this up, the onus to go outside university channels to the police would be on the eyewitness, McQueary, a man who will be standing on the sidelines on Saturday and still collecting a paycheck.

No sense preaching to this choir. I've been saying the same thing for 4 pages now and they still damn the man to hell based on pure speculation of what they think or assume he was told my McQueary. The media propaganda is very powerful and obviously influences people's perspective of the incident. No one here is without sin, Joe included. If it's later found that he knew exactly what was taking place then I'll be the 1st to admit I was wrong and he made a huge error in judgement and should pay for it. But unfortunately that hasn't happened and from the actual facts we have now, not what people assume, that's not the case.

The media sees dollar signs in attacking Joe Paterno. They'll generate tons of traffic and sponsor dollars going this route instead of doing actual reporting. That's why no one even mentions Sandusky or the fact that McQueary still has his position within PSU, which I alluded to many time before and even created a thread concerning. They condemn Joe for his morals and for not going to the police with the information yet give the man who actually witnessed those horrific acts a free pass from the same moral standards.