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Fair or not, this is what I predict will happen opie. They're going to clean house. Is it an "overreaction" to bring Paterno's tenure to an abrupt end? Possibly. But I think it's going to happen and it's going to happen pretty quickly.Originally Posted by opie1988
kills himself -117
does not kill himself +103
I still don't understand how or why the PSU officials and coaches decided to cover up all of this horrible shit that Sandusky did? It's not like people would be against them at all if they turned him in and in effect stopped all future abuse from ever happening, getting that sick fukk off the streets
Now, the shits hit the fan for all of them, and rightfully so......Sandusky STILL on the Penn State campus, at football practices with other children even AFTER the shower incident took place is unreal.
And to act like Joe Pa, the fukkin king of happy valley "didn't know the details" of all the nasty shit that went down is short-sighted at best.
Joe Pa and all of the other Penn State higher-ups chose turning a blind eye because they didn't want to deal with the horrible issues head-on.
THEY CHOSE PROTECTING THEIR OWN AND THE SCHOOL'S IMAGE OVER CHILD SAFETY AND WELL BEING
They didn't want a full-blown scandal against a long-time coach serving under Paterno's wing which, ironically enough, only delayed the inevitable we're seeing today (only much worse because it wasn't nipped in the bud).I still don't understand how or why the PSU officials and coaches decided to cover up all of this horrible shit that Sandusky did? It's not like people would be against them at all if they turned him in and in effect stopped all future abuse from ever happening, getting that sick fukk off the streets
Now, the shits hit the fan for all of them, and rightfully so......Sandusky STILL on the Penn State campus, at football practices with other children even AFTER the shower incident took place is unreal.
And to act like Joe Pa, the fukkin king of happy valley "didn't know the details" of all the nasty shit that went down is short-sighted at best.
Joe Pa and all of the other Penn State higher-ups chose turning a blind eye because they didn't want to deal with the horrible issues head-on.
THEY CHOSE PROTECTING THEIR OWN AND THE SCHOOL'S IMAGE OVER CHILD SAFETY AND WELL BEING
dude they didn't cover up anything, they had no proof and thought he was innocent
Does everyone here that have kids know what your kids are doing? Hell most don't even know what they are doing right now
EXACTLY
They chose that over stopping a child abusing monster
Now they deserve to get crucified for it
You are fukkin retarded
If they thought Sandusky was innocent, then why the fukk is the accuser of the shower incident (McQuery) now the WR coach at Penn State??
Either the accuser was lying about Sandusky and was spreading awful rumors about the former defensive coordinator or Sandusky actually did rape the child in the shower
Can't have it both ways = Obvious cover up
Answer that one moron
I'm still trying to figure out, too, how McQueary could've looked himself in the mirror for all the years knowing what he knew and saw.
Are you just trolling for attention as per usual or blatantly ignorant?
Its sickening to me that these PSU officials and coaches heard of these accusations and a few years later let Sandusky attend their PSU football practice with a random young boy at his side just as one example
Makes me sick
Why bother?
He knows nothing about the facts of the ordeal.
the worst part about this is that PSU officials allowed sandusky on campus as long as he didn't bring any kids with him
that lets you know that everybody involved was well aware of what was going on and just didn't want to ruin their University image. Now I hope they all get crucified and that Paterno's legacy is tarnished forever
absolutely disgusting. if i was the father of any of those kids you can be sure that i would have taken some justice into my own hands.
this rips my heart out when i think of the kids being hurt like that and no one reached out to help them.
Me too.....Joe Pa and the others opted for "business as usual" instead of helping the victims and future victims
Disgusting.
agree with you here Brah 100%
Joe thought this would just go away, if he ignored it. That, or he'd pass away b4 the shit eventually hit the fan. Hell, Sandusky could have passed away and gotten away w/ it.
Joe Pa's son is a clown: "Dad plans to be coaching here for the long haul."
If long haul = next four days, then yes, you may be right.
17 accusers have now come forward
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sport...urce=pulsenews
tt is probably right...nothing to see here...fukkin nitwit
Always great to see the eye witness get promoted to coaching staff after not reporting to the police
Joe Paterno going from Penn State to State Pen
seen it and just wanted to share
all fun aside - I think he should step aside - Moms are starting to voice their opinions and people are listening
Sandusky probably feels he got screwed. McQueary reported him, so that he could take Sandusky's spot on the coaching staff.
No Coin: Here's your answer as to why Curley and Schultz were fried for not telling the cops. Notice how it says Paterno "reports a version of what the grad student said". They had a meeting with the grad student later in the month and that's when they were told everything:
March 2, 2002 — In the morning, the graduate assistant calls Coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno’s home, where he reports what he has seen.
March 3, 2002 — Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.
March 2002 — Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say they will look into it.
http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnews...y_sandusk.html
I will say this though... a lot of people dropped the ball on this one. What about those janitors? Why didn't they go to the cops and file a report? They witnessed abuse with their own eyes. Not based on a second-hand account. Seems like a messed up culture at that school all around.
And why did that DA Gricar not charge him in '98 after the mother complained? This just seems like one massive mess/cover-up that's been going on for far too long.
Shari the jantiors didn't go to the cops cause they didn't want to lose their jobs...
That is the stupidest statement I have ever read on sbr....and that really says something. You must be some sort of troll or a real life mongoloid to utter the ignorant nonsense like those words above. Based on that comment, I find it unlikely that you are able to meet basic life functions like holding a job, having a family, etc. If you were a father, you would never utter such stupid words. RmIf you are able to read, please look at the grand jury statement and timeline. Joe pa, Mcqeary, the AD & VP are all guilty as sin and will burn in hell for allowing that monster to rape kids under their watch and protection. Its almost like tge facilitated sanduskys abuse, because they continued to allow him on campus as late as last week. Sickening.
One of the janitors was a temporary employee. Why didn't he go after he was no longer employed there? I just think that if we're going to crucify anyone for their inaction in this whole thing, we need to start 10 years ago and go after every single person who saw him assault these boys, every person involved in that case in '98 and carry it all the way through. If people aren't willing to accept what they think is Paterno's reasoning for not going to the police (whatever that may be) even though he didn't even witness the abuse, no one's should be accepted. Everyone should go down together.
not to offend, but those odds are not even close. he'll off himself by Thanksgiving, probably by kickoff Saturday.kills himself -117 does not kill himself +103
actually, that's incorrect, sadly. i listened to a reporter from some PA paper yesterday on that shitty Mike and Mike show (Bill King was at commercial) describe an incident in 2007 when Sandusky brought a kid with him to watch practice.
i'd be okay with crucifying everyone involved (figuratively, of course). my thinking has changed a lot over the last few days of processing this. how the fk did people walk by him in the halls, shake his hand, speak to him, if they had any knowledge of the 2002 incident? they knew that he was heavily involved in a kids charity for the next 6 years and said nothing. that's inexcusable.
I actually thought about the part of your post I bolded when I was writing my last one about the janitors. The temp janitor saw him performing oral sex on a boy and went and told the other janitors and his supervisor. Ok so that guy was a temp so who knows when he quit working there. But he told his co-workers. And another janitor saw him with a boy as well. How could these guys look at him afterwards? What did they think each time they saw him in or near the locker room after that? I understand that people would fear for their jobs, etc... but that's my whole point. Should they get a pass for not saying anything? That temp's boss told him who to report it to and the guy never bothered. Not even after he wasn't working there any more. Anyone who saw these acts and didn't do anything should be the first to go down in my opinion before anyone else who heard info secondhand. Paterno will most likely fry because he's the big name but so many people failed these kids.
I agree...you can't make an anonymous phone call to the police because you are worried about losing your temp janitor job?
WTF is wrong with these people...
What really gets me is all the mindless Joe Pa supporters that showed up on his lawn last night. How fuking stupid are they? Read the grand jury report and the timeline. If anyone still supports Joe Pa after reading that those two factual documents, then they need to have their head examined.
Penn State needs to get rid of everyone in the sports/football administration and just start fresh. Napalm that whole damn department. Joe Pa knew people. Don't stick your head in the sand. He pushed Sandusky into retirement in 1999 because of all this shit...connect the dots. Everyone knew Sandusky was a pederass, but tried to protect him because they all knew it would be a shit storm for the whole university. It was through that protection that Sandusky was allowed to rape more kids, many of them on the Penn State campus.
That is shameful, sickening and I want justice for the victims. Sandusky needs to face the death penalty, and Joe Pa, the AD, the VP, Mqueary and anyone else with knowledge of these incidents needs to face some sort of penalty. Preferably through the legal system for perjury, but at the very least they all need to lose their jobs so as not to put any further children at risk at Penn State or anywhere else.
Joe Pa needs to go...I will always hate him for this.
"All It Takes For Evil To Triumph Is For Good Men To Do Nothing" - Edmund Burke 1797
How prophetic is this statement today in the wake of this crisis at Penn State?
Paterno has to go. Now.
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obviously, this is not a death penalty situation. generally speaking, i'm categorically against the death penalty, but i can empathize with how you feel, LTA (probably in part because we both have young kids). i feel very ashamed to say (type) this, but justice will be done when Sandusky offs himself, which, i'm certain, is only a matter of days away (and there's no way he's alive through the holidays). i can't begin to understand the functioning of such a sick mind, but my guess would be the public shame he is experiencing, plus the addition of the shame he will feel when he realizes that he contributed to the ruination of a formerly great coach's career (not to absolve Paterno, whom i categorically believe did not do the right thing in 2002, and probably at other times), plus the very real fear he will experience when he realizes what awaits him in prison as the result of his crimes (he will finally come to understand how his young victims felt, crass as that is to say), there is no way the man can go on. Sandusky is in the process of becoming the most hated man in America, an historic criminal.I agree...you can't make an anonymous phone call to the police because you are worried about losing your temp janitor job?WTF is wrong with these people... What really gets me is all the mindless Joe Pa supporters that showed up on his lawn last night. How fuking stupid are they? Read the grand jury report and the timeline. If anyone still supports Joe Pa after reading that those two factual documents, then they need to have their head examined. Penn State needs to get rid of everyone in the sports/football administration and just start fresh. Napalm that whole damn department. Joe Pa knew people. Don't stick your head in the sand. He pushed Sandusky into retirement in 1999 because of all this shit...connect the dots. Everyone knew Sandusky was a pederass, but tried to protect him because they all knew it would be a shit storm for the whole university. It was through that protection that Sandusky was allowed to rape more kids, many of them on the Penn State campus. That is shameful, sickening and I want justice for the victims. Sandusky needs to face the death penalty, and Joe Pa, the AD, the VP, Mqueary and anyone else with knowledge of these incidents needs to face some sort of penalty. Preferably through the legal system for perjury, but at the very least they all need to lose their jobs so as not to put any further children at risk at Penn State or anywhere else. Joe Pa needs to go...I will always hate him for this.
i have tried, a number of times, to go and read the grand jury report, and i simply cannot, at least not yet. and while i sympathize with the Penn State community for what they are going through (in addition to the obvious and terribly wronged victims of Sandusky, Penn State students and players are innocent victims as well, though certainly not anywhere close to the same extent, of course), they should spend the time and energy used marching in support of a man who clearly is lost (Paterno) volunteering to help victims of child abuse, domestic violence, sexual abuse, something of that sort - actions that might speak to how this situation has affected their consciences rather than their vanity.
Let paterno say his side of the story wanna hear that press conference... a lot knee jerk reactions, everyone wants paterno... how about the guy who did this? people should be trying to off sandusky now buring paterno
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