didn't even realize until now that this was on friday and then the next days was UFC 147, crazy back to back ufc cards
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06-14-12 04:15 AM #71
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06-14-12 07:45 PM #72
[QUOTE=Vaughany;15064628]
His TDD is unbelievably horrible for a guy who calls himself a wrestler.
Originally Posted by Jerseychi
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06-15-12 01:08 PM #73
[QUOTE=Jerseychi;15062926]
Well it is kinda the same here. His opponent changed and now he has to train a different style on short notice. If i took Story i would be betting him blindly just like i did against the Spanird. Never knew who Brenneman was. Just like i don't know anything about Keith Jardines brother. Originally Posted by Thor4140
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06-15-12 01:26 PM #74
Brenneman had had 3 fights in UFC already and won two of them...bit different to Jardine
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06-15-12 06:59 PM #75
gray trying to get in clay's head
http://mmajunkie.com/news/29217/afte...fc-on-fx-4.mma
Clay Guida's trademark locks won't be swinging as wildly next Friday when he meets Gray Maynard in Atlantic City.
In fact, Guida (29-12 MMA, 9-6 UFC) will braid back his shoulder-length curls for the fight – after Maynard (10-1-1 MMA, 8-1-1 UFC) filed a complaint with the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board.
John Fosco, Guida's manager and president of VFD Sports, on Friday told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that Maynard filed the request with the commission roughly a month ago – and that his client has decided to comply, which the New Jersey commission confirmed with MMAjunkie.com.
"Clay chose to avoid any distractions and simply complied," Fosco told MMAjunkie.com. "Clay will be braiding his hair back. Clay is not focused on this and has one objective: winning. Nothing will distract him from his goal."
Under the Unified Rules of MMA, individual commissions are allowed to rule on "whether head or facial hair presents any hazard to the safety of the unarmed combatant or his opponent or will interfere with the supervision and conduct of the contest or exhibition."
And in such instances the ruling body believes there is a hazard, "the unarmed combatant may not compete in the contest or exhibition unless the circumstances creating the hazard or potential interference are corrected to the satisfaction of the Commission."
In the case of Maynard and Guida, Nick Lembo, counsel for the NJSACB, said a hearing was avoided when Guida agreed to Maynard's request.
"He doesn't want to do it, and I don't believe he's 100 percent happy about it, but he's being very understanding and very cooperative about it and he agreed to it," Lembo told MMAjunkie.com. "Otherwise, if he said, 'No, I'm not going to do that,' we'd have to have a hearing on it and let both sides present their case and have a commissioner's ruling on the issue."
Lembo said if the NJSACB believes a fighter's hair to be "absolutely out of control," it typically will ask his opponent's camp if he has any problems. But he said Maynard's side filed its complaint in writing before the commission had even gotten to that point.
Lembo said the nature of Maynard's complaint was that Guida's hair "could pose a distraction to their fighter … and that they thought it gave an unfair advantage to their opponent."
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06-15-12 07:23 PM #76
Clay should file a complaint about maynards shiney bald head which blinds his opponents with it's reflection make him comply and grow hair
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06-15-12 08:16 PM #77
Dustin Pague replaces Francisco Rivera vs Ken Stone
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06-16-12 01:43 AM #78
ooo interesting Originally Posted by gabe
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06-16-12 02:45 AM #79
Who is this Joey Gambino and why should I think he has a chance?
Also, Pearson is just a better fighter who will win that fight.
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06-16-12 02:56 PM #80
i know some of u are hard core fans but before facebook i didn't really care about Prelims that much. Don't even remember him being on one of the main cards until he fought Story. Originally Posted by Vaughany
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06-18-12 03:41 PM #81
5D just released some more prop lines for this event. took a flyer on stout by tko @ +360.
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06-18-12 04:04 PM #82
also played waldburger/ebersole ITD @ Even Originally Posted by PunisherIND
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06-18-12 04:45 PM #83
Same here buddy Originally Posted by PunisherIND
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06-18-12 06:03 PM #84
Originally Posted by Vaughany
Same here buddy
nice nice. up to -170 now. still not showing on BFO though.
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06-18-12 06:16 PM #85
damn, got there late. Played the -170. I think this is still a decent line. At least 2/3 either Ebersole KOes AND Waldburger Subs Originally Posted by PunisherIND
really dont see a decision happening 30% of the time
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06-18-12 09:02 PM #86
Guida/Maynard being 5 rounds changes my opinion on the fight, so much. 3 rounds, Gray is an easy pick. But 5? Yikes, much tougher call.
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06-19-12 03:37 AM #87
yeep agreed Originally Posted by Luca Fury
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06-19-12 03:38 AM #88
yee or can jus use it as a hedge to Ebersole by decision...dont see how TJ wins a decision unless it is like the Joe Daddy/GSot fight! Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy
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06-20-12 05:12 PM #89
Not the lines I was hoping for, but there is some serious value in some dogs... You fuckerrs with a sportsbook account have some decent dog lines imo... Bookmaker gonna strengthen up some fav lines and lower some dog lines I'm guessing...
Anyone noticed Bookmaker usually comes out not long after sportsbook (I'm guess they'll have their lines up by end of today if not first thing tomorrow) and their favs are valued just a little higher and their dogs a little lower than sportsbook's lines??? For instance, llamas at +175 on sb will open on BM at +150, or maybe a fav like story being -350 will open -400?? All in all though, they do seem to open in the same range...
Hoped gambino was gonna be a bigger dog against Siler...
Same with llamas, was hoping he'd be above +200... Ramos also not so bad at +200 range (stye to give brown fits imo) and if jardine gets above +300 I'll def place a small sprinkle.. Keith also being overvalued at +280ish me thinks, so yea lots of dogs I'm liking here...
They opened Camozzii stronger than I thought - Camozzi is a verryyyy live dog here, people will be shaking their heads at me for saying that, but I'm telling you camozzi as a dog in this is great,... I have some inside info from both camps that camozzi is gonnna really surprise and catone still has some lingering issues, not just with injury but also how he chose to approach his training focus against chris - big mistake... DEFINITELY would not put my money on catone, if anything play camozzii or don't touch this match up at all you'll get burned this is upset special right hurrrr...
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06-20-12 06:15 PM #90
Wasnt cj keith supposed to make his debut earlier this year or last year? I remember watching a knockout of his on Youtube a while ago and I don't remember why...
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06-20-12 06:19 PM #91
yep... Dude has serious power and seems pretty athletic... Ramsey is more proven, and I'll admit he looked tough in the show, but at +260 wtf??? Originally Posted by Vitooch
I thought this line was gonna be way closer to evens with ramsey no larger than -160..
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06-20-12 06:45 PM #92
One could make the argument that Nijem possesses the wrestling advantage, and that CJ does not possess the jitz of his back to sweep or submit a wrestler with the base of Nijem.
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06-20-12 09:02 PM #93
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06-20-12 10:05 PM #94
looks like Steven Siler line has flipped, opend a fav now -105 dog, he crushed me in that Miller fight
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06-20-12 10:51 PM #95
Nijem is a shitty wrestler Originally Posted by Vitooch
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06-21-12 05:14 AM #96
damn wanted gambino as a dog. might still fade siler if line dont get silly b4 it hits my book Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
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06-21-12 09:37 AM #97
whats up with the ken stone/dustin pague fight?? no line still.
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06-21-12 03:44 PM #98
i was the only one on here who had siler in that fight. respek. Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
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06-21-12 04:18 PM #99
I def. see a lot of value in Camozzii. I capped him at +120 at the most. At +180, I will be laying down more than I ever have on a Dog. Very good value here. Originally Posted by MMAbetMASTA
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06-21-12 06:10 PM #100
Agree man, but then again you have access to the info I do from our boy... Originally Posted by DirtyX
Long story short fellas, Catone is still injured. He might claim he's 100%, but close sources say a couple injuries, while not as bad as they were, are still lingering, especially his ankle...
Furthermore, my boy (let's just call him 'babe') who rolls out there in between the jersey camps said catone got KO'd just the other week sparring (pretty bad too I guess) and there are talks that his chin is gone (that actually he got dropped a few other times in sparring during this camp for camozzi), and to make matters worse, babe said people are still sinking the guillotine on him when he's going for tds...
babe only does jits there and he's small, so he's not rolling with catone, but he said guys not with the greatest skill level have been tapping him in camp... Maybe that's why his camp is focusing on his stand up only, not so much the wrestling / jitz game - and that leads me to another scary point...
Why is he planning to stand and bang with camozzi instead of going for his strong point - wrestling?
Camozzi on the other hand has chosen his training to focus on the ground game - supposedly some reps from 10th planet are helping him utilize a better rubber guard that chris has taken a liking to. In the past he's been hampered by wrestlers, but he did put up a decent fight and because he's focused so much of his training on tdds and jitz, I expect him to possibly stuff some tds and if on his back either get a sub or use it to stand up...
Perhaps someone can help me out with the name of the new trainer, but chris also has brought in a fundamental boxing coach to help him get better boxing technique meshed in with his already solid kickboxing... Seeing how catone got tagged by munoz, who imo is one of the most overrated and wild guys on the feet, I think if camozzi can sprawl and brawl he might be in trouble... And camozzi has a few guillotines wins too and considering the rumors of catone having trouble with them in camp, perhaps nick might shoot right into a guillitone...
All in all I'm glad I waited on camozzi because his price is getting better..
If you're paying that juice on catone i'd be real scared... Play camozzi or else NO PLAY on this fight...
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06-21-12 06:12 PM #101
I really need to get another book... All the dogs I was liking are at ridiculously lower prices now on my book lol... Originally Posted by MMAbetMASTA
llamas at +140, ramos at +130, keith at +150...
LOL, I'm so ******* pissed.... fuckkk all you that got those great prices...
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06-21-12 07:31 PM #102
Thanks for posting this info. I saw you said something earlier but I figured you didn't want share all the details in the forum, I was going to pm you. Originally Posted by MMAbetMASTA
I was thinking about a bet on Catone but it was based purely on a fade of Camozzi. The price on Catone wasn't very enticing in the first place, even less so now, lol.
Also, wtf is wrong with these guys and their training. Prepping for a fight it should be #1 priority to not sustain cuts and get knocked out. Makes you wonder about his chin because it could have been an "accident" just from a normal punch during sparring.
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06-21-12 07:42 PM #103
Yea I here you on the auto fade for camozzi, and if catone was better and I didn't know I did then I would be def backing catone, but not at that price no way, the value is camozzi... Yea really scary about his chin too, not that camozzi has great KO power, but with the new boxing focus he might have harnessed better technique and therefore better KO ability, so who knows, especially if camozzi's supposedly improved tdd and rubber guard keep the fight upright... Originally Posted by DeFactoCrippler
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06-22-12 07:45 AM #104
Camozzi up to +185 now...
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06-22-12 03:54 PM #105
6U on Hatsu Hioki by Decision (+157)
1U on Clay Guida by decision (+544)
3U on Nick Catone (-210)
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