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    Quote Originally Posted by Thremp View Post
    How much more money will I make when I "do it right"?
    30% more of what you are making now

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    To quote the great RickySteve...

    "Matchbook is awesome...for helping losing bettors lose more slowly."

    He's the smartest person in the forum and only 1% of the users are able to point it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    Their liquidity for MLB is nothing short of amazing. If you bet MLB and don't have a Matchbook account, you are doing it wrong.
    There are very few people that bet MLB in greater volume than me and I don't use Matchbook*.
    Last edited by RickySteve; 02-16-11 at 03:01 AM. Reason: *unless I have rollover to meet on a pass-through

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    Quote Originally Posted by goblue12 View Post

    He's the smartest person in the forum and only 1% of the users are able to point it out.
    I'll take the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickySteve View Post
    There are very few people that bet MLB in greater volume than me and I don't use Matchbook*.
    You have a MB account and don't bet MLB there? Why?

    Can you find better lines elsewhere?

    Do you only bet openers?

    I must be missing something.

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    Good thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sink View Post
    I only use matchbook for arbs and yesterday and today will be the only days I have not made a single dollar in the last 2 years so something is definitely up...

    HUH??

    With your experience on MB, how could this be???

    Don't you EVER look at NBA halftimes???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    You have a MB account and don't bet MLB there? Why?

    Can you find better lines elsewhere?

    Do you only bet openers?

    I must be missing something.


    Something we can all agree on, finally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    You have a MB account and don't bet MLB there? Why?

    Can you find better lines elsewhere?

    Do you only bet openers?

    I must be missing something.

    Makes one wonder ......doesn't it?

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    nobody has to tell the truth here, haha

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    Keep an eye on the ST PAULI soccer offerings today at Matchbook.....starting immediately.

    Thank me later....

    Match starts at 1245 ET today

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    Guys his point is that MB lines are usually very sharp, if you can play at books (or just any place like Vegas/locals whatever really) with softer MLB lines you will get much better odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Guys his point is that MB lines are usually very sharp, if you can play at books (or just any place like Vegas/locals whatever really) with softer MLB lines you will get much better odds.
    .......you are right in a very small sense, but one is much better off in the longhaul being funded at Matchbook, its an absolute no-brainer.

    You will be hard pressed to find better MLB lines than Matchbook, to say you will get much better odds elsewhere is a ridiculous statement.......if so, you must make a killing scalping on a daily basis with bases using Matchbook........why even bet???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Keep an eye on the ST PAULI soccer offerings today at Matchbook.....starting immediately.

    Thank me later....

    Match starts at 1245 ET today
    Oh yea? Right now i just see the usual: small amounts and carefully picked odds when i compare it to Pinny's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Oh yea? Right now i just see the usual: small amounts and carefully picked odds when i compare it to Pinny's...

    I said to monitor............

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    Never looked at soccer there. Fishhead, you think they even have better liquidity than NBA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongturn View Post
    Never looked at soccer there. Fishhead, you think they even have better liquidity than NBA?

    Yes.......if one doesn't take into account the last 30 minutes before tipoff.

    There are 2 or 3 consistant marketmakers for soccer at MB, all beatable if you pay close attention.

    But again, if one is not wagering more than 3,000 on any event, liquidity is no problem at all at Matchbook........DO NOT make judgements on THE AVAILABLE LIQUIDITY for a game simply by looking at what is CURRENTLY available on a game.........those that ACTUALLY wager at MB know this.
    Last edited by Fishhead; 02-16-11 at 08:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    DO NOT make judgements on THE AVAILABLE LIQUIDITY for a game simply by looking at what is CURRENTLY available on a game
    You've said many stupid things on these forums and this may well be the stupidest. Do you know what "liquidity" means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrtelfan View Post
    You've said many stupid things on these forums and this may well be the stupidest. Do you know what "liquidity" means?
    It's not stupid if you put emphasis on the words that he CAPITALIZED. He tried to make the reading easy for you, and it still didn't work. I understand what he means. If you care to understand, but can't, just ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    Once again, you are totally and completely wrong.

    First of all, I have never seen the type of liquidity you are talking about at noon Pacific for the typical NBA game. I have always said the liquidity is only good as the time of the first game approaches.
    LOL. Because you have your own definition of liquidity that runs completely counter to any reasonable definition of liquidity, anyone who disagrees that the market was illiquid Monday is "clueless." Free hint: the NBA betting market is open for a long time before "the time of the first game."

    Pick up the most rudimentary textbook, hell, go to Wikipedia since that's about your speed: "The essential characteristic of a liquid market is that there are ready and willing buyers and sellers at all times." Where the hell were the willing sellers at noon PST on Monday??? They weren't there, hence the market was not liquid.

    Second of all, if I were as clueless as you, I would have looked at the market and thought "Oh, there's no liqudity, I guess I can't bet here". Did you even look at what I posted? Those bets were the results of OFFERS I made.
    I never said "there's no liquidity, I guess I can't bet here." I said "there's no liquidity, I can't be a buyer."

    Were you in the market? No. So why comment?
    I was in the market, and there was no market for me as a buyer. Hence the liquidity was awful.

    Go back to posting about Credit Wagering as if they're some sort of reliable book, that's more up your alley than big boy economic terms that you don't understand.

    Once again, bustouts who don't know how to use MB, are not in the market, do not make offers because they are too scared shitless, etc... These squares should not talk about the liquidity of the market, because there is no way for them to know. You are not in the market, so STFU.
    You may well beat Fishhead for the most clueless poster in this thread and that's saying something. You weren't in the market either at that time (unless you were the guy with the $300 offers) so who the hell are you to rag on other people for not making offers at that time when you weren't making offers either???

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    It's not stupid if you put emphasis on the words that he CAPITALIZED. He tried to make the reading easy for you, and it still didn't work. I understand what he means. If you care to understand, but can't, just ask.
    I think he NEEDS more CAPITALS in order for PEOPLE like me to understand his UNIQUE definition of LIQUIDITY. Maybe FISHHEAD should read the same WIKIPEDIA entry I told KGAMBLER about since WIKIPEDIA is right up his ALLEY.

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    I really don't see any point in continuing to try to convince anyone that Matchbook is an essential out for any serious player. If they can't understand that it's better to lay -100 than -105 or -110, or that if the line elsewhere is -125/+115, and if you make an offer at -119 it is likely to get matched (and you'll get a rebate besides), then they are losers, pure and simple.

    And lol at the guy who said that losing bettors will lose more slowly at Matchbook. That's a GOOD thing, isn't it, assuming you're intent on gambling regardless? And, by the same logic, if you're a winning player you'll win more at Matchbook.

    BTW - I made offers on 4 NBA games, 1 NHL game, and 1 college game yesterday, and all were matched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skrtelfan View Post
    You've said many stupid things on these forums and this may well be the stupidest. Do you know what "liquidity" means?
    As stated in my post, those that ACTUALLY PLAY THERE, understand.

    You obviously do not and would rather ramble on constantly about Matchbooks negatives even though you have never played there.


    Anyone and everybody that actually plays at MB on a consistant basis realizes you have nothing but some type of agenda against Matchbook(could be a variey of reasons why)........give it a rest, as the many actual players at MB that enjoy the site AND understand how it works would appreciate it.

    Thanks for your understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    As stated in my post, those that ACTUALLY PLAY THERE, understand.

    You obviously do not and would rather ramble on constantly about Matchbooks negatives even though you have never played there.
    Huh??? Looking through my posts I've made a handful of negative posts about Matchbook, namely:

    -they go down for maintenance too often at important times
    -their software sucks on phones
    -they need more deposit options

    I would love for you to argue any of these points. More importantly, the only person who would make such complaints would be THE SORT OF PERSON THAT WANTS TO PLAY THERE.

    As recently as one month ago I posted that I play there: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ml#post8204255

    Oh, I also said my soccer offers don't get matched as often as I'd like even when my offer is better than Betfair even before commission. How the hell could I make offers if I didn't play there? Here's a post responding to one of your Matchbook shilling posts where I said I like them for certain things but not others:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ml#post3418095

    It is a simple fact that liquidity was poor on Monday after a lot of the credit accounts got closed, and the only people who disagree are people who don't know what the word liquidity means. There's a guy in this thread who admitted he wasn't watching Matchbook at noon PST and still argued that their liquidity was fine yesterday, because on his planet "liquidity" only applies to sellers and markets are only open right before tipoff.

    Anyone and everybody that actually plays at MB on a consistant basis realizes you have nothing but some type of agenda against Matchbook(could be a variey of reasons why)........give it a rest, as the many actual players at MB that enjoy the site AND understand how it works would appreciate it..
    What the hell are you talking about? I know you're a complete idiot but you don't have to make stuff up to prove your point. Does Matchbook pay you to make shit up about people who make the remotest critical comment about them?

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    My buddy just got an email from Match the his account is closed. This seems to be the beginning of the end.

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    And here's where I defend Matchbook against an unfair accusation:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...ml#post3367503

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    Quote Originally Posted by testudo View Post
    My buddy just got an email from Match the his account is closed. This seems to be the beginning of the end.
    Where does buddy live? Was there some further explanation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Where does buddy live? Was there some further explanation?
    He's either a credit player who MB considers a risk or he lives in Washington state.

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    It lasted all of one day. I guess they see they need the market makers. Seems it will be business as usual until further notice.

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    i could still work without matchbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfrance View Post
    It lasted all of one day. I guess they see they need the market makers. Seems it will be business as usual until further notice.
    What lasted all of one day? The rumors? We're supposed to believe you that a chance was actually supposed to happen but never did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfrance View Post
    It lasted all of one day. I guess they see they need the market makers. Seems it will be business as usual until further notice.

    Clown

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    What lasted all of one day? The rumors? We're supposed to believe you that a chance was actually supposed to happen but never did?

    Credit guys were 100% shut down monday. 100k credit lines showed $1 on monday morning. The powers that be must of thought it over ans saw that they need these guys and all was restored. That is all I am saying. I know nothing about post up and never was talking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Clown

    Asshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by magynuck View Post
    i could still work without matchbook
    easily. i haven't placed a bet there in over a year.

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