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    Interwetten addresses €6300 canceled bet dispute

    Interwetten addresses €6300 canceled bet dispute

    Interwetten (SBR rating B-) has addressed the €6300 canceled bet dispute from SBR's 2/15 report. Interwetten has cited third party news sources which chronicled a highly irregular number of bets on a 2-2 exact score outcome on an Italy B Series soccer game between Gallipoli and Grosseto. The score was 2-1 at half when a lopsided number of bets streamed in on the exact outcome. SBR has inquired in discussions with Interwetten whether or not all open bets on the game were voided, or only the wagers on the 2-2 outcome. Interwetten stated that its legal department advised them to not answer these questions. Interwetten, along with all other sportsbooks which serve sports where match fixing has been proven to occur have rules on file enabling them to void all bets in such games. The most ethical course of action when canceling bets on matches determined to be fixed is to void all wagers, not to selectively apply which wagers to settle. Betfair (SBR rating A+) graded all markets normally on the wager. | Interwetten cancels winning bet report.

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    Wow, I didn't know anybody could wager Ģ450 on correct score at Interwetten!
    Most people have limits of €100 on match odds (big Leagues only) and about €10 on correct score.

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    yes that was strange to me how you can place 450eur on correct score at interwatten, bet365 could alow 100eur maximum

    p.s guy who placed this bet had first hand info
    Last edited by nenad; 02-17-10 at 01:29 PM.

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    didnt seem rigged to me, did any one else void? Betfiar dont seem to agree.

    Just another interwetten trick, by the sounds of it. They have to pay up. good luck, hope they do the right thing!

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    sportingbet canceled bets placed for draw and 2-2 for this match as i know...but this is really unfair if they didnt cancel not winning bets too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLou View Post
    Interwetten addresses €6300 canceled bet dispute

    Interwetten (SBR rating B-) has addressed the €6300 canceled bet dispute from SBR's 2/15 report. Interwetten has cited third party news sources which chronicled a highly irregular number of bets on a 2-2 exact score outcome on an Italy B Series soccer game between Gallipoli and Grosseto. The score was 2-1 at half when a lopsided number of bets streamed in on the exact outcome. SBR has inquired in discussions with Interwetten whether or not all open bets on the game were voided, or only the wagers on the 2-2 outcome. Interwetten stated that its legal department advised them to not answer these questions. Interwetten, along with all other sportsbooks which serve sports where match fixing has been proven to occur have rules on file enabling them to void all bets in such games. The most ethical course of action when canceling bets on matches determined to be fixed is to void all wagers, not to selectively apply which wagers to settle. Betfair (SBR rating A+) graded all markets normally on the wager. | Interwetten cancels winning bet report.
    As Toit says, normally itīs impossible to win 6300 Euro at Interwetten with lower leagues like Italian B soccer. Normally Interwetten accept maximum stakes of 10 Euro for those leagues.

    Unbelievable stuff.

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    the player was too greedy.
    this chicken bookie will pay the winnings only with court decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toit View Post
    Wow, I didn't know anybody could wager Ģ450 on correct score at Interwetten!
    Most people have limits of €100 on match odds (big Leagues only) and about €10 on correct score.
    As far as I know the maximum winning for this lower leagues correct score at Interwetten is 50 Euro, as far as you are not limited. If you are limited its about 10 Euro.

    The players 6300 Euro winning wager is impossible at Interwetten imo.

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    obviosuly its not 'impossible' unless you are saying the OP is lying to SBR? in which case Interwetten would have rebuked pretty fast dontcha reckon? its a very large bet for them, but thats irrelevant - if they took it, they took it.

    it is an absolutely astronomical bet for them though, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by questa View Post
    obviosuly its not 'impossible' unless you are saying the OP is lying to SBR? in which case Interwetten would have rebuked pretty fast dontcha reckon? its a very large bet for them, but thats irrelevant - if they took it, they took it.

    it is an absolutely astronomical bet for them though, yes.
    Questa, You and me and everyone else knows that interwetten is a mickey mouse book.

    Something is wrong here

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    B- rating?? what a joke! it should be C- or D...

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    Interwetten is a good bookmaker for me but they reduce the limits to 10 Euros max bet if you win or bet smart. The user that placed the 450 Euros pre-game bet was well informed about the fixed game and I also think that this bet was his FIRST BET as interwetten will only ''manage'' your account after the first bet placed!

    Noone can place 450 Euros bet at Interwetten even if he lost over a million there! FIRST BET definitely.

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    Another book taking free shots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimakos View Post
    Interwetten is a good bookmaker for me but they reduce the limits to 10 Euros max bet if you win or bet smart. The user that placed the 450 Euros pre-game bet was well informed about the fixed game and I also think that this bet was his FIRST BET as interwetten will only ''manage'' your account after the first bet placed!

    Noone can place 450 Euros bet at Interwetten even if he lost over a million there! FIRST BET definitely.
    So what if it was? First bets can be voided now?

    And what was he 'well informed' about? the game doesnt seem rigged to me anyway, check the save towards the end.

    They took a big bet, it won, they found a reason to welch. cant believe how hard some people look for reasons to side with these scum books.

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    Interwetten doesn't dispute that the bet was placed. The only issue is whether the match was fixed, and if Interwetten handled the voiding properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post

    Interwetten doesn't dispute that the bet was placed. The only issue is whether the match was fixed, and if Interwetten handled the voiding properly.
    According to betclic there is an official investigation into this match, the outcome of this investigation will decide whether the bet will be void or graded.

    Will Interwetten pay if the investigation rules that the result will stand?

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    Interwetten should hold the bet as pending and not void it. If the investigation say that the result is official they should pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimakos View Post
    Interwetten is a good bookmaker for me but they reduce the limits to 10 Euros max bet if you win or bet smart. The user that placed the 450 Euros pre-game bet was well informed about the fixed game and I also think that this bet was his FIRST BET as interwetten will only ''manage'' your account after the first bet placed!

    Noone can place 450 Euros bet at Interwetten even if he lost over a million there! FIRST BET definitely.
    good point. But I donīt think this mickey mouse book Interwetten took this amount. Not even if it was your first bet.

    I remember I placed a 100 Euro wager a few years ago at Interwetten to win 1200 Euro. I phoned them and they told me they void it.

    Not even Pinnacle have this extreme high limits for lower soccer leagues.

    I wish Interwetten pays the player, but I guess thereīs no way to get his money

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    P.S.: specially for SBR:
    Interwetten never were a B+ book. They are somewhere between C- and D+

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonbeam View Post
    P.S.: specially for SBR:
    Interwetten never were a B+ book. They are somewhere between C- and D+
    To be fair to them, this is the first time I hear about Interwetten voiding bets.
    Their limits are crap and paying for deposits and withdrawals is not to my liking, but they've always paid (me) so far.

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    I think that the proper grade would be C or C+. My First bet with them a log time ago was 1000 Euros at Champions League. This was the first and the last time I saw that limit! After that they reduced my limit to 100 Euros, then to 100 Total (Bet and winnings) with the exception of Bundesliga 1 (1x2 - 200Euros), then flat 10 Euros even at the 1.01 Odds.
    Not so sure about the result but there is always the court!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonbeam View Post
    good point. But I donīt think this mickey mouse book Interwetten took this amount. Not even if it was your first bet. I remember I placed a 100 Euro wager a few years ago at Interwetten to win 1200 Euro. I phoned them and they told me they void it. Not even Pinnacle have this extreme high limits for lower soccer leagues. I wish Interwetten pays the player, but I guess thereīs no way to get his money
    If they took it they took it. Are you saying the OP is a liar?

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    Not good at all, this is why books need to be regulated.

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    hello?
    it's clearly stated there were more bets on the 2-2 outcome, not one bet
    man oh man

    anyway interwetten is another shit book like expekt, it doesn't deserve more than D (while sportingbet is D or bwin C)
    sorry but I think SBR quit to be a relevant site for bookie ratings some time ago

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    I have a complaint against Interwetten
    They canceled my bet on Isner - Petzschner livebet

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    Quote Originally Posted by cristianbet View Post
    hello?
    it's clearly stated there were more bets on the 2-2 outcome, not one bet
    man oh man

    anyway interwetten is another shit book like expekt, it doesn't deserve more than D (while sportingbet is D or bwin C)
    sorry but I think SBR quit to be a relevant site for bookie ratings some time ago
    The limits apply to a flat max stake per outcome.
    If you have 100 euros max stake you can not place 101 even if you place 1000 bets.
    Before the first bet the account is not supervised by limits!
    You can place a number of bets at any stake you want.
    (2x60 + 3x80 + 4x100)

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    doesnt sound like they addressed it to me. sbr should lower their rating for sure. if a book gets hit by a fix they should eat it- if the players get f*cked by a fix we have to.

    if the sports too shady, dont offer it.
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    Downgrade for sure. The fact that they refuse to answer whether they voided the entire correct score market or just 2-2 bets is worthy of a downgrade by itself.

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    I have serious problems with this bookmaker

    They voided 7 live bets on hockey and tennis, only explanation gave was "Wrong starting time"

    I had also some bets on opposite selection and was wagered lost of course, voided only the ones who should be won


    I have made a complain but received no answer.

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    I also bet on this match on correct score 2:2 and still winning is not credited to my account from Interwetten.

    Please can anybody tell me how goes the investigation?

    I wrote with Joshw and he really helping me but now everyone donīt reply me from SBR. But I appreciate SBR for all assistance provided by.

    Please could someone have to tell a news about this case or contact me on mail "fifavok@seznam.cz"

    Thank you very much for every answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fifavok View Post
    I also bet on this match on correct score 2:2 and still winning is not credited to my account from Interwetten.

    Please can anybody tell me how goes the investigation?

    I wrote with Joshw and he really helping me but now everyone donīt reply me from SBR. But I appreciate SBR for all assistance provided by.

    Please could someone have to tell a news about this case or contact me on mail "fifavok@seznam.cz"

    Thank you very much for every answer.
    I guess SBR really want to help the players, but when it comes to disputes with advertising books, the advertising books are always much more important than the cheated players. Thatīs buiseness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fifavok View Post
    I also bet on this match on correct score 2:2 and still winning is not credited to my account from Interwetten.

    Please can anybody tell me how goes the investigation?

    I wrote with Joshw and he really helping me but now everyone donīt reply me from SBR. But I appreciate SBR for all assistance provided by.

    Please could someone have to tell a news about this case or contact me on mail "fifavok@seznam.cz"

    Thank you very much for every answer.
    investigation is ended all books credited winings except interwatten as i see so you shoold send compilant against them

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonbeam View Post
    I guess SBR really want to help the players, but when it comes to disputes with advertising books, the advertising books are always much more important than the cheated players. Thatīs buiseness
    Yes, I understand. But they now donīt reply. If they write that they cannot do anything, I'll understand but SBR did not write explanation yet. I donīt know if they work on this case or investigation was ended.

    Please Joshw if you read this reply me to mail.

    Thank you for answer.

    Edit: to nenad: Yes, I was write him complaints. Thank you for information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdz View Post
    I have serious problems with this bookmaker

    They voided 7 live bets on hockey and tennis, only explanation gave was "Wrong starting time"

    I had also some bets on opposite selection and was wagered lost of course, voided only the ones who should be won


    I have made a complain but received no answer.
    Can you show me the wagering tickets where the voided some, but not others for the same event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdz View Post
    I have a complaint against Interwetten
    They canceled my bet on Isner - Petzschner livebet
    Please fill out a complaint.

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