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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    What you fail to comprehend is I could care less if they fail tomorrow. I've made 20k in 2.5 months using them, & will continue to do so. My two payout requests were paid same day, no problems. Not concerned much about payouts. I try to lose at this book & win at my other outs, & have been quite successful. So IF & when this party's over, I'll simply crash the next party after 18th hole & BetIslands.
    Truly sad to acknowledge this is a possibly a very high risk operation and promote it at the same time in my other threads as a great place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    So how are you guys even seeing odds at 18thHole?

    I can't get anywhere on that site away from the Home page
    Because we have accounts there. Except for Rangers, who must be accessing the juicy lines from 18th hole's test account: Test account is EH111, Password is test

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    What you fail to comprehend is I could care less if they fail tomorrow. I've made 20k in 2.5 months using them, & will continue to do so. My two payout requests were paid same day, no problems. Not concerned much about payouts. I try to lose at this book & win at my other outs, & have been quite successful. So IF & when this party's over, I'll simply crash the next party after 18th hole & BetIslands.
    You're an absolute penetrating scumball man. The fact that you're ADMITTING this book is extremely volatile, yet you back it up and preach it to be better than sliced bread.

    You're purposely leading people to the slaughter for 50% referral bonuses, possibly more. How does it make you feel telling people what a great and safe book it is for your own selfish hidden agenda?

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    It feels great.... Anyone with a clue would realize the reward is well worth the risk. 18th has paid me & many others, you can only speculate they will go down. Since you have no experience playing at 18th nor any knowledge of their financial backing, your not qualified to speak on the subject. So your opinion means absolutely nothing. If someone asks me for a referral, I will give it to them. But I'm not soliciting, as I don't care who else plays there. What I do care about are people bad mouthing 18th, who never played there. If you were educated & knew how to utilize 18th, you would know it doesn't matter IF they go down. Since you would still be up huge IF that happens. Nothing wrong with being conservative, as my other outs are very safe: Bookmaker/DSI, 5 Dimes, & Heritage. However, the most successful people in life take calculated risks. Hopefully you will learn that concept one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Because we have accounts there. Except for Rangers, who must be accessing the juicy lines from 18th hole's test account: Test account is EH111, Password is test
    Thanks.
    But that just gets me a "Call customer service" message.
    Hardly helpful when they don't even provide the number!

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    Hmmmm.....Not sure why you can't access, I can access the test account fine at: http://www.18thholesportsbook.net/

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    Over the past 15 years, OSGA has compiled the most comprehensive list of online sportsbooks in the industry.

    Good, Bad (blacklist) & ugly.

    Don't see "18th" listed anywhere. OSGA....

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    Back when I tried this very small shop, they were using twitter? Told me they had been in business since 2005, but could not find one shread of evidence to back this up. Only real benifit I can see are to those recieving 50% kickback for bringing in new players.

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    after everything I have heard about 18th hole I would say that this is a typical pyramid scheme. First few people will get paid but when the suckers stop depositing it will just disappear. I would advise everybody from joining this site.
    I am glad that some people are arbing this book like crazy and getting few thousands every week but from mu experience arbers are very quite about the bookies and markets they are making money of so that all this bragging seems very suspicious to me.
    here is something from bookmakersreview.com:
    "
    18th Hole Sportsbook player review by bobbywaves

    Bookmaker:
    18th Hole Sportsbook


    Review:
    I've been playing at 18th for over a month now. I was skeptical, but I've been paid. They offer very nice MLB dime lines, up to -299! Great book thus far. I can get you in with a referral if interested."
    so much about not offering referrals

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    This is the most accurate list of best USA sportsbooks found on the net, & the only 5 outs I use. Any American using a book other than these 5, are just naive & foolish.

    Home / Best USA Sportsbooks


    Best USA Sportsbooks



    www.5dimes.eu
    Customer Rating: 97.6 A+
    # of Customer Reviews: 259
    To sign up: info@5dimes.eu
    Comments: 5dimes is as good as it gets for the recreational player. The options, the reduced juice, the rewards are all top notch. People complain about customer service and the site crashing during busy times, but this is the Rolls-Royce of online sportsbooks for USA customers. The teaser and parlay options are a huge hit as well. If you are 50-100 dollar per game player this has to be your choice.


    www.18thHoleSportsbook.net
    Customer Rating: 96.9 A+
    # of Customer Reviews: 183
    To sign up: customerservice@18thHoleSports.com
    Comments: Was a big hit in UK in 2004-09 under old domain. Last 2 years have really been getting some good pub in USA. Line options beginning to surpass 5dimes. Customer service rated high by reviews. Bigger players loving this out due to limits. Moneypak deposit and withdraws are the biggest plus for them, as they seem to be the only highly rated book taking them. Reduced juice on all games and best lines on soccer and tennis juice wise. Rewards and cash back bonuses pretty good.


    www.Bookmaker.eu / www.BetDSI.eu
    Customer Rating: 92.3 / 93.5 A
    # of Customer Reviews: 203 / 229
    To sign up: 877-827-3978 / 877-223-8374
    Comments: Solid in every way this family is. The 300% bonus that DSI offers sometimes is a must have. These two are a little bland but certainly has gotten the job done for a while and will continue to do. These books have had A+ rating forever and will continue for years to come. Customer Service, payouts, and rewards program all very good.


    www.heritagesports.eu
    Customer Rating: 90.9 A-
    # of Customer Reviews: 138
    To sign up: customerservice@heritagesports.eu
    Comments: Their rating on April 1st 2013 was 95.3 and has dropped recently due to some slow pay complaints and customer service issues. Also, at last check, they are not accepting new customers.

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    Run by criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    www.18thHoleSportsbook.net
    Customer Rating: 96.9 A+
    # of Customer Reviews: 183
    To sign up: customerservice@18thHoleSports.com
    Comments: Was a big hit in UK in 2004-09 under old domain. Last 2 years have really been getting some good pub in USA.
    Meanwhile, in the real world nobody in the UK has ever heard of them. Gambling is highly regulated here - books like this simply don't exist.

    I don't see any evidence of the book before this year.

    Interesting though that the link on OTGS goes to another site entirely, www.snakeeyes11.net ..... which is hosted at the same IP.
    Last edited by HeeeHAWWWW; 10-18-13 at 02:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    This is the most accurate list of best USA sportsbooks found on the net, & the only 5 outs I use. Any American using a book other than these 5, are just naive & foolish.

    Home / Best USA Sportsbooks


    Best USA Sportsbooks




    www.5dimes.eu
    Customer Rating: 97.6 A+
    # of Customer Reviews: 259
    To sign up: info@5dimes.eu
    Comments: 5dimes is as good as it gets for the recreational player. The options, the reduced juice, the rewards are all top notch. People complain about customer service and the site crashing during busy times, but this is the Rolls-Royce of online sportsbooks for USA customers. The teaser and parlay options are a huge hit as well. If you are 50-100 dollar per game player this has to be your choice.


    www.18thHoleSportsbook.net
    Customer Rating: 96.9 A+
    # of Customer Reviews: 183
    To sign up: customerservice@18thHoleSports.com
    Comments: Was a big hit in UK in 2004-09 under old domain. Last 2 years have really been getting some good pub in USA. Line options beginning to surpass 5dimes. Customer service rated high by reviews. Bigger players loving this out due to limits. Moneypak deposit and withdraws are the biggest plus for them, as they seem to be the only highly rated book taking them. Reduced juice on all games and best lines on soccer and tennis juice wise. Rewards and cash back bonuses pretty good.


    www.Bookmaker.eu / www.BetDSI.eu
    Customer Rating: 92.3 / 93.5 A
    # of Customer Reviews: 203 / 229
    To sign up: 877-827-3978 / 877-223-8374
    Comments: Solid in every way this family is. The 300% bonus that DSI offers sometimes is a must have. These two are a little bland but certainly has gotten the job done for a while and will continue to do. These books have had A+ rating forever and will continue for years to come. Customer Service, payouts, and rewards program all very good.


    www.heritagesports.eu
    Customer Rating: 90.9 A-
    # of Customer Reviews: 138
    To sign up: customerservice@heritagesports.eu
    Comments: Their rating on April 1st 2013 was 95.3 and has dropped recently due to some slow pay complaints and customer service issues. Also, at last check, they are not accepting new customers.
    wow, they have more reviews than heritage, they must be really huge!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    This is the most accurate list of best USA sportsbooks found on the net, & the only 5 outs I use. Any American using a book other than these 5, are just naive & foolish.

    Home / Best USA Sportsbooks


    Best USA Sportsbooks




    www.5dimes.eu
    Customer Rating: 97.6 A+
    # of Customer Reviews: 259
    To sign up: info@5dimes.eu
    Comments: 5dimes is as good as it gets for the recreational player. The options, the reduced juice, the rewards are all top notch. People complain about customer service and the site crashing during busy times, but this is the Rolls-Royce of online sportsbooks for USA customers. The teaser and parlay options are a huge hit as well. If you are 50-100 dollar per game player this has to be your choice.


    www.18thHoleSportsbook.net
    Customer Rating: 96.9 A+
    # of Customer Reviews: 183
    To sign up: customerservice@18thHoleSports.com
    Comments: Was a big hit in UK in 2004-09 under old domain. Last 2 years have really been getting some good pub in USA. Line options beginning to surpass 5dimes. Customer service rated high by reviews. Bigger players loving this out due to limits. Moneypak deposit and withdraws are the biggest plus for them, as they seem to be the only highly rated book taking them. Reduced juice on all games and best lines on soccer and tennis juice wise. Rewards and cash back bonuses pretty good.


    www.Bookmaker.eu / www.BetDSI.eu
    Customer Rating: 92.3 / 93.5 A
    # of Customer Reviews: 203 / 229
    To sign up: 877-827-3978 / 877-223-8374
    Comments: Solid in every way this family is. The 300% bonus that DSI offers sometimes is a must have. These two are a little bland but certainly has gotten the job done for a while and will continue to do. These books have had A+ rating forever and will continue for years to come. Customer Service, payouts, and rewards program all very good.


    www.heritagesports.eu
    Customer Rating: 90.9 A-
    # of Customer Reviews: 138
    To sign up: customerservice@heritagesports.eu
    Comments: Their rating on April 1st 2013 was 95.3 and has dropped recently due to some slow pay complaints and customer service issues. Also, at last check, they are not accepting new customers.
    I went to that best ever sportsbook review site and it seems that they exist just for few months and they already have hundreds of reviews of different bookies. that is great success considering that their forum has only few members and few hundred posts all together
    all the warning signs are there so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjesnik24 View Post
    wow, they have more reviews than heritage, they must be really huge!!!!
    Not surprising, as Heritage doesn't accept new registrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Not surprising, as Heritage doesn't accept new registrations.
    only new registrants from heritage are allowed to review sites? My mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjesnik24 View Post
    I went to that best ever sportsbook review site and it seems that they exist just for few months and they already have hundreds of reviews of different bookies. that is great success considering that their forum has only few members and few hundred posts all together
    all the warning signs are there so...
    Great success indeed, with very accurate ratings. So what's your point? SBR was never a new forum at one point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Great success indeed, with very accurate ratings. So what's your point? SBR was never a new forum at one point?
    no point, just praising them I guess. I wonder why you know so much about this great website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjesnik24 View Post
    I wonder why you know so much about this great website?
    Probably because a professional wants to know everything about their profession.

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    Quite a coincidence that this OTGS site appears around the same time as 18thhole / snakeeyes, knows so much about them, and instantly puts them right at the top of the rankings.

    Meanwhile, nobody else has heard of them.
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    Guy called Rob Burgess behind Onthegamblersside.com:

    http://www.googleplussuomi.com/timelinetest.php?googleid=11003219444654 3708434&sort=comment

    "I just helped launch a site today called onthegamblersside.com"

    According to his own google+ site, he co-owns an internet company named 4Twelve-Solutions
    https://plus.google.com/110032194446543708434/about


    Hosted by them:
    SNAKEEYES11.INFO
    ONTHEGAMBLERSSIDE.COM



    Fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Probably because a professional wants to know everything about their profession.
    how did you come to this conclusion that this is the best and the most accurate list for bookies?
    forum is pretty much dead, you cannot find these thousands of reviews anywhere on the site. 1000s of people downloaded MSWord form to submit their reviews in a site with few original hits per day? WOW!

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    Apparently you didn't read the review, everyone who played under their old domain from 2004-2009 would know exactly who they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW View Post
    Guy called Rob Burgess behind Onthegamblersside.com:

    http://www.googleplussuomi.com/timelinetest.php?googleid=11003219444654 3708434&sort=comment

    "I just helped launch a site today called onthegamblersside.com"

    According to his own google+ site, he co-owns an internet company named 4Twelve-Solutions
    https://plus.google.com/110032194446543708434/about


    Hosted by them:
    SNAKEEYES11.INFO
    ONTHEGAMBLERSSIDE.COM



    Fail.
    I am shocked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjesnik24 View Post
    how did you come to this conclusion that this is the best and the most accurate list for bookies?
    From experience, as these are the only 5 outs I use.

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    Hmmmm, not putting down the other 4 books on the list? Could it be your just clueless about 18th & the ratings are 100% accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Hmmmm, not putting down the other 4 books on the list? Could it be your just clueless about 18th & the ratings are 100% accurate?
    None of the other books have been caught making fake review sites to praise themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Hmmmm, not putting down the other 4 books on the list? Could it be your just clueless about 18th & the ratings are 100% accurate?
    nope, other 4 are there just to make 18th hole look as part of the group. I am betting online for at least 10 years now and I can assure everyone that they were never a big player in UK or anywhere in Europe for that matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    It feels great.... Anyone with a clue would realize the reward is well worth the risk. 18th has paid me & many others, you can only speculate they will go down. Since you have no experience playing at 18th nor any knowledge of their financial backing, your not qualified to speak on the subject. So your opinion means absolutely nothing. If someone asks me for a referral, I will give it to them. But I'm not soliciting, as I don't care who else plays there. What I do care about are people bad mouthing 18th, who never played there. If you were educated & knew how to utilize 18th, you would know it doesn't matter IF they go down. Since you would still be up huge IF that happens. Nothing wrong with being conservative, as my other outs are very safe: Bookmaker/DSI, 5 Dimes, & Heritage. However, the most successful people in life take calculated risks. Hopefully you will learn that concept one day.
    Bobby, it DOES matter if your shitty wanna be book goes down. Players with any type of balance shouldn't have to worry about getting stiffed. And, stop saying you're not soliciting business because that's all you've been doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsiderHer View Post
    Bobby, it DOES matter if your shitty wanna be book goes down. Players with any type of balance shouldn't have to worry about getting stiffed. And, stop saying you're not soliciting business because that's all you've been doing.
    what bobby really wanted to say was that it does not matter if other people lose money as it will all end up in his pocket. it is actually a good thing in his mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Apparently you didn't read the review, everyone who played under their old domain from 2004-2009 would know exactly who they are.
    how do you find these reviews on their site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsiderHer View Post
    Bobby, it DOES matter if your shitty wanna be book goes down. Players with any type of balance shouldn't have to worry about getting stiffed. And, stop saying you're not soliciting business because that's all you've been doing.
    Anyone worried about getting stiffed, obviously shouldn't play there. But those of us with a clue about risk/reward knows this is the place to play. My point is it will not affect me if they go down, with all the $ I'm already up. But you're all too clueless to realize how to take advantage of books like 18th. Your loss, not mine.

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    Seems that this review site being used to argue the point was created right after 18thhole?

    The website onthegamblersside.com was created the 2013-03-24

    Domain ID7987299-ME Domain Name:18THHOLESPORTSBOOK.ME Domain Create Date:09-Apr-2013

    This was 18thholes 1st domain when they where a PPH at Horizon- since 9/2013 then they have created a new domain at .net

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    Quote Originally Posted by looneytunes View Post
    Seems that this review site being used to argue the point was created right after 18thhole?

    The website onthegamblersside.com was created the 2013-03-24

    Domain ID7987299-ME Domain Name:18THHOLESPORTSBOOK.ME Domain Create Date:09-Apr-2013

    This was 18thholes 1st domain when they where a PPH at Horizon- since 9/2013 then they have created a new domain at .net
    Really? I always thought March was before April.

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    We all get the point - don't worry so much about me though- lets get some poor suckers to deposit so we can have some money for this weekend. A book that uses this model of 50% kickback on every referral can only survive one way. no thanks
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