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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Yes, but we are all accountable to the choices we make. While BOL was getting tons of complaints, Mathy was one of their biggest supporters. He stayed with them because of the +ev opps there, which I can understand. Slow-pay is the cost for playing with D Books. Glad he's getting paid, but it shouldn't be that big a shock to him.

    BOL and all related Books suck.Their B+ rating is bought and paid for on this forum.
    I think the payout issues started let's say November 2011, but I had not had any issues myself. In fact, they had paid amazingly quickly before that, so yes I supported them. Of course I then ran into my own issues beginning around January/February of this year. All I can do is speak for how I've been treated, and they treated me great before January 2012.

    I never chose to stay. I was just being paid so slowly I decided I may as well bet with what was sitting there idly, and I've been winning at a very high rate.

    I think the BOL situation is very embarrassing for SBR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cash View Post

    If Lou, Bill and someone else from SBR (i need 3 at least) are willing to guarantee for my money is safe at Betonline and vouch for it with their personal money if i dont get paid there i will consider depositing 2k.



    So, any vouchers SBR?
    Would like to hear it from the SBR "higher ups".

    Is Betonline a safe book? Do you still recommend SBR gamblers play there?

    SBR management is eerily silent on the current state of Betonline.

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    Seen that "invitational" moneybookers promotion too, sent out by one of their managers. I think they phrased it, moneybookers is an easy and safe way to deposit, and while that most definitely holds true for moneybookers itself, we can only speculate on the situation with BOL.

    However, Bill did personally confirm, as late as a few days ago, that their moneybookers issues has now been resolved, so I guess the amount of issues going forward should be limited.

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    I received an express chk payout on the weekend, after 3 weeks though.

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    Obviously their Moneybookers issues have not been resolved as per my post above

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Obviously their Moneybookers issues have not been resolved as per my post above
    What are we? Children? We believe them...lol.
    yeah they really have legit Moneybookers issues, try depositing 10g see if it goes thru.

    I received my 2nd 1g+ within a week, I doubt it is this fast (BoL standard) if I cash out 5g+.
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    Are they or Lowvig using ANY method which is relatively fast? P2p etc?

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    Billdozer,

    why did you say they had moneybookers figured out when they didn't. Doublespeak?

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    Pleased to report a successful 8k b2b to cris

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Pleased to report a successful 8k b2b to cris

    Squeaky wheel gets the l'huile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Pleased to report a successful 8k b2b to cris
    They charged you extra for that (seen they got some harsh b2b fees) instead of letting you have it for the moneybookers fee despite it being them failing to deliver? Do they ever have any excuses for not being able to do b2b or have they handled that reasonably well?

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    For a while they weren't processing them, now they're back on apparently. I believe CRIS does not accept LowVig B2Bs though.

    The fees are steep but sometimes in this business you have to eat it

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    Received Xpress check today (albeit 4 weeks after my initial request).

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    moneybookers withdrawal , 4 days , 4 figure sum, no chasing up required

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by faststeady View Post
    moneybookers withdrawal , 4 days , 4 figure sum, no chasing up required

    cheers
    How recent sir?

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    Added to Team SBR:

    Horizon/Heritage: unreasonable limit restrictions that prevent player from completing rollover. sbr rules for the book becuase player is a troll. lol sbr again

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    8k B2B from Sbetting to DSI within 24hrs

    Things looking up for BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    8k B2B from Sbetting to DSI within 24hrs

    Things looking up for BOL

    Quality news, nice work Ronnie.

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    Could be that books recovered some of the NFL/MLB losses from NBA. Long live the basketball.

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    I requested BOL express payment on Monday and already showing it processed and funds were removed from my account. I haven't withdrawn in a long time from them but this appears to be a good sign, No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.ed View Post
    I requested BOL express payment on Monday and already showing it processed and funds were removed from my account. I haven't withdrawn in a long time from them but this appears to be a good sign, No?
    No, it is standard. Good sign or not depends on how soon "Paid" status shows up.

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    I am pleased to report the 8k Skrill payout they could not process and replaced with an 8k wire was successfully received today.

    Things looking up at BOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    I am pleased to report the 8k Skrill payout they could not process and replaced with an 8k wire was successfully received today.

    Things looking up at BOL!
    Great news-sincere congrats. They should actually pay you interest on the money they held instead of charging you the high B2B and wire fees. Do you plan on playing there ever again?

    PS It's a no for me. Never again, BOL.

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    I will keep a moderate balance so long as they do not limit me on absolutely everything I play [at the moment I am only limited on a few things]

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    How recent sir?

    last week, requested monday, in moneybookers by friday

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    you're lucky.. they won't pay me that way anymore

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    Mathdotcom, where are you located? I assumed you were in the US but skrill is non-us

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    screw betonline, too many better options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hankwins View Post
    screw betonline, too many better options.
    if you have a decent football model, you can beat the heck out of their opening lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by allin1 View Post
    if you have a decent football model, you can beat the heck out of their opening lines
    i am not interesting in dealing with delays, i have waited 7 days before CS responded to an email!

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    Been waiting for a $1,500 payout from BOL. I just live chatted today after almost 2 weeks and they said there are "delays". Can't give me a reason, can't give me an ETA. I am really disappointed that this is a book that SBR recommends? I paid extra for an "expresscheck" that is supposed to come in 7 days. What a joke! I filed a complaint on SBR so we'll see what that does. They suggested canceling my payout and doing **, but they can only send part of my payout that way AND they said I would have to pay the fees! They didn't offer to cover the fees after the lies about payout speeds. Ridiculous! They can't wire bank funds either. This book is a scam! Here's a part of my chat.

    -----

    I wanted to get the tracking info on my payout. It was approved on 11/19/12 and I still haven't received anything. I even payed extra for XpressChk and its been about 2 weeks


    Ernie McFadden: We're having a slight delay on that method at the moment.

    Ernie McFadden:
    All I can really say is we apologize for the inconvenience and as soon as we get something from our processor, we'll let you know.


    how long will it be?

    Ernie McFadden:
    I really dont have an estimated time for it.

    Ernie McFadden:
    Like I said as soon as we hear from my processor we'll let you know.

    I'm surprised no one notified me. What about other methods?

    Ernie McFadden:
    Thank you for waiting. I'll be with you in just a moment...

    Ernie McFadden:
    We're really sorry about that.


    Are other methods available? A wire transfer would be quick

    Ernie McFadden:
    A ** would be quicker you're right, but the most you can get in ** is $950.00.


    Ernie McFadden: You'll have to cancel the request and get it through the other method.

    wire transfer to my bank

    Ernie McFadden:
    Those are down at the moment.


    Ernie McFadden: I meant a ** or **********.

    Ernie McFadden:
    They take about 12-36 hours to be paid.

    Ernie McFadden:
    But like I said, the most you could get is $950 for ** and $800.00 for **.
    I will do it if you can send 2 transfers to cover the full payout request and cover the fees

    Ernie McFadden:
    I don't think we can cover the fees.

    Ernie McFadden:
    The fees will be deducted from the balance.


    I paid extra for a rush check that never came and you cant cover fees to process my payout that is having issues because of problems on your end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runnershane14 View Post
    Mathdotcom, where are you located? I assumed you were in the US but skrill is non-us
    Carman, Manitoba, Canada

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    SBR got involved and 2 days later I was paid! Thanks SBR!

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    Mr. Dotcom we will have to have a Manitoba bash. I can pony up my 4 season tickets to a Jets game if the labour dispute is ever resolved.

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    Betonline issues continue. Skrill payouts non-existent, they delay you two weeks and then offer a bankline. The lines eventually do go through.

    Sportsbetting.ag customer support has not replied to a single e-mail I send them requesting bankline payouts. Since my bank's info does not fit the form they offer on their software, I cannot process it through their website.

    Phoned sportsbetting, it is like talking to a brick wall. You go round and round and they just don't have a clue how anything works. Ask for a manager and he is always out. Phone betonline and they won't do anything.

    It appears I will be forced to process over 60 eastern unions and maybe be fully paid out by 4th of July.

    Betonline is one of the worst sportsbooks available to bettors, and SBR continues to make excuses for them. Bettor beware.

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