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Pure rumors , while i have nothing negative to say about these other books it seems like betislands has been making these other shops step up their games and raising the bar.
jon has one of the best reps in this business with the name he has if he owned any other books im sure he would claim them as his.
imo if it is all just a coincidence maybe 7red sells the phone numbers to the list of gamblers that all the touts buy and somehow know ur a sportsbettor.. its possible betislands and 50 other books buy those lists or subscribe also and when they are dialing out for new players they stumbled upon the OP.
For the official record.. I like ezstreet and betislands..played at both, got paid at both.. 7redsports I have never deposited and never won so have no idea how their handling would be but im sure it would be fine for any lessor known book.. keep a low balance and u will be fine im sure
-stash
Last edited by secretstash; 07-14-12 at 06:02 PM.
Once again,
For the record we cannot control what other sites offer I can only control what Betislands offers. All we have done for our clients is pay them faster than most , treat them better than most , and offer better than most.
Betislands or myself have NO affiliation with any other sportsbooks this will be MY 3RD TIME SAYING THE SAME THING IN THE SAME THREAD , we have worked hard to brand Betislands spending time , efforts and money so if we partner up with another book we would be more than proud to make it public.
SBR has met with me and my partners , have visited our offices etc etc and there is no relation or connection between us or any other post up book.
My job is to make Betislands the best , I wish everyone luck but in the end we are all competition.
This will be my last post in this thread.
Jon
Last edited by Betislands; 07-14-12 at 06:23 PM.
Bet Islands has nothing to do with EZ street
like some said earlier
its a very small set of Industrial parks and strip malls that these offices are in
and between the hot Ticas with the plastico tatas and the ex-pat gringo and canucks
everyone knows everyone else
and moves from place to place
because it is so hard to find COMPETENT help
just look through threads here and you can see how much emphasis is placed on customer service for the gringos
(that is no shot at bet islands-i don't play there but you can't find complaints about the customer service)
Thanks for re-opening this thread, and your explanation seems plausible. Unfortunately, whoever closed it just added fuel to the fire. This was an unusual thread followed by an even more unusual reaction by SBR. I guess the Mod who closed it and why will remain a mystery.Originally Posted by Bill Dozer
Oscar??? There was a cs agent in betsportsweb which name was Oscar
..are you talking about same person?
you got a shot taker with 2 posts talking shiat with a clear agenda
then u got the owner and GM of one the best books around that does his best to service clients clearing matters up , and you got SBR confirming how it is rumors that there is nothing that connects any of these shops and people still wanna beat dead horse.
Jon runs a good business. Even when he ran wagerchief he was public on the forums. He'd always address every issue that arose.
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Last edited by Justagirl09; 07-20-12 at 02:32 PM.
Im with D@rr3n, I use to work there too, and Yes, they are all the same, those three books are the same shit. BetIslands is not in the same building, but Jon is co owner of 7red, wich is also the same as EZstreet. Why is it so hard for you guys to admit it? Its not a big deal, is it?
It seems we have a couple of former Wagerchief employees who couldn't cut the mustard (which we won't go into) and are using the forum to try to cause problems. We usually tell the books not to even entertain these silly claims because that's what the posters want.
As I said on page 1, we've met the ownership groups from both books and have seen both offices. A player can look at the servers and see they are in two different locations. If they were the same company, BetIslands wouldn't have been able to sponsor the forum as EZ owes casino winnings to players.
We don't ban real posters but we don't let people work the board for their own fun either. Bumping this thread with, "Yes, they do" or more "me too" ghosts are going to get removed.
Hmmmmm, interesting. Been off forums for awhile but I did hear something about this a little while back. Have no proof so would never bring it up... but now that it is up, interesting. Heard that Oscar with EZ man handled 7Red and that he had associations with Jon from BI. But without proof I considered the BI part to be just a rumour. The rest though about EZ and 7Red I believe to be true...
Honestly who cares what goes on with these books. Don't they all pay every customer except that Cory guy? The stuff people care about is just ridiculous a bunch of drama queens in this place.
Dunno know why people keep posting in this thread you got the main guy at Betislands denying it , and you got SBR denying it and they have met the owners of these books these are silly rumors from a couple of posters with one post and no evidence tryin to get pople rattled up.
Besides with the reputation Betislands has as being one of the best it would not make sense of them having other post up books and not juicing their name.
MOVE ON..
Stick a fork in it, its frickn done....
Exactly everyone knows Betislands is a standup shop.
good to see that cory is getting paid
Jon is a stand up guy
i totally forgot about this thread... well... I never thought BetIslands was somehow related with ez but now I think they are...
they def are
already confiremd
Good fukkin find, forgot about this.
That's some pretty strong denials from not very long ago.
Hi guys,
Hope all is well as confirmed by SBR , we saw an opportunity to grab a small book and an opportunity to utilize wagering service thats providing the things you guys have always asked for : earlier lines , overnight lines on all mayor sports , better racebook amongst other things.
This is actually a positive step for us with an attempt to expand , our payouts have continued to go out on time like they always have , we have expanded our facilites and a new website + new betting engine is coming out in the next few days.
These forums are here to inform players , and this is what I have always tried to do although it seems that some people get alarmed about certain situations when there is no real reason to be alarmed about.
I have always stated be alarmed when clients are not getting paid ( we have never had a single complaint out there ), not because we are trying to expand or we had a few technical hi cups on the way there.
Cheers
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Well I trust Jon almost as Scotty Johnson from Bet-Jamacia-and thats is a very high compliment. It is ok to disagree at times-however I feel as though BI is doing it"s best to provide to all of it's customers needs-not just my issues-but everyones. I do not have a clue about the offshore industry and whatever ties there may be. Thanks SBR and Jon. gl all
this is a classic thread
This poster dolson uncovered the fact that Islands and 7red were related months ago, there are so many assurances in this thread that the two books are in no way related, does anyone actually believe they weren't related now
Very interesting read this thread is.
yeah it's interesting that Jon at islands never heard of 7red in July and now Islands owns 7red
What just happened? I just read how Justin7, Billdozer and Jon from BI triple confirmed they don't have anything to do with 7Red and now they own it?
ouch, bigjoe1212 is accurate on his statement.
Yeah, not a very impressive thread to say the least. Not only are the people that got it right called out for being wrong, they are threatened as to how long they'll be able to post here if they persist with the truth.
Also get a kick out of the "we visited the sites and they are not related" statements. How would you determine that from a visit? If people involved want to hide they own both sites I don't think a visit is going to expose it.
At times if you don't know, say you don't know. Or at least stay out of the thread and don't say either way. Truth is this has been one of the worst kept secrets in CR and has been for some time. To see all the denials doesn't look so responsible.
You gotta be one of the biggest whores in this industry.
I don't understand the big deal here....AT THE TIME Betislands had no affiliation with with 7red/EZstreet....but things change, now they do. Betislands has always paid everyone and now Cory is being paid as well...what's the big deal? People, things change.
The big deal here is the blatant dishonesty and denial, "had no affiliation at the time" some strange coinsidence
I don't see the blatant dishonesty and denial here....at the time Jon said they had no affiliation, which appears they didn't. Like I said things change.The big deal here is the blatant dishonesty and denial, "had no affiliation at the time" some strange coinsidence
This book has all kinds of problems besides dishonesty
My additional 2 cents... surprised this thread was dragged back up from the depths of murky waters to begin with but it has. First cent, the offshore business being what it is is not necessarily completely open to public scrutiny for many reasons and my second cent is that even if Jon had some sort of interest in another brand or service what does it really have to do with BetIslands. Many backers and or managers know each other or have heard of each other, offshore is a niche business.. what do you expect. A brand has to stand on its own 2 feet unless it is a skin of a primary provider that has a majority interst in the operation or it has a known backer or management team from an established service, the original reputations may or may not hurt the brand in question on day 1 but they are absolutely taken into consideration... though when a primary skins out a new brand SBR looks like they will give a similar rating initially if they can confirm the relationship. The new brand will in time get up an running and establish its own more accurate rating which will still probably be similar to the primary if the primary is a majority controller... this is basically self explanatory. Sometimes management of a new brand just does not want it known and will not tell SBR either, they will say just enough to get a decent start up rating and build it out from there and try and keep the brands separate or just not give a shit what SBR thinks and run their business how they want. No one has to tell SBR shit, period... nor do they have to tell a customer shit either period. Two established well regarded brands are far more valuable in the long run than a well regarded primary brand and a skin. This is not a slight to SBR, it has appeared for quite some time that their data sources are quite good but they are not perfect and they are not always first to know when a big move or shot is going down...H-G-BJ merger is just one example of SBR not the 1st let alone the second to know. But for the average hamburger a cannot really think of a better resource for offshore news. Dolson, by the way... good job, no flies on you as they say.
touchback, I know nothing about this story, have no experience or really knowledge about either of these books and havent really followed it at all, just saw this thread just now and skimmed through it.
You say they didnt have to say shit, fair enough, but thats not what was said, it appears as if lies were told.
You also say, they may not tell SBR, or that SBR may not be the first to know, in which case you would believe SBR would not without a doubt confirm the statement. These sometimes 'inaccurate' truths may appear to only happen regarding specific books, if one didnt know better, certain conclusions could possibly be drawn from that I guess and it makes SBR look less trustworthy.
That said, from all I hear BI seems like a good place! Barely heard of that other one.
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