[Patrick McIrish]

Half the 16 year old whores in the country knew this was going to happen. FTR it doesn't mean SBR knew, in fact Dozer is one of very few here that I tend to believe based on his past postings. But him basically saying "opinions to the contrary would be banned/deleted" is a dangerous mindset for a mod. A thought process of if they don't agree with me they must be wrong is not good for the forums. It's why forums that allow any and all opinions generally do the best. As we saw here, often the most unwelcome opinion ends up being the most accurate.

[paranoyd androyd]

The big deal here is the blatant dishonesty and denial, "had no affiliation at the time" some strange coinsidence islands now praises and own this shit book

exactly. these books were affiliated with BI for quite sometime, despite BI flat out lying about it. is that on SBR? not necessarily, perhaps they were mislead as well. but it's certainly on BI and that should tell everyone all they need to know about this horseshit book.

[Triumph]

Is the next bit of news about betislands going to be that they own or are owned by ezstreet

[touchback]

touchback, I know nothing about this story, have no experience or really knowledge about either of these books and havent really followed it at all, just saw this thread just now and skimmed through it.

You say they didnt have to say shit, fair enough, but thats not what was said, it appears as if lies were told.

You also say, they may not tell SBR, or that SBR may not be the first to know, in which case you would believe SBR would not without a doubt confirm the statement. These sometimes 'inaccurate' truths may appear to only happen regarding specific books, if one didnt know better, certain conclusions could possibly be drawn from that I guess and it makes SBR look less trustworthy.

That said, from all I hear BI seems like a good place! Barely heard of that other one.

Fair enough... sometimes I can ramble or just get a little bit off track. Was just having a not great day an wanted to stir some shit...

[touchback]

Half the 16 year old whores in the country knew this was going to happen. FTR it doesn't mean SBR knew, in fact Dozer is one of very few here that I tend to believe based on his past postings. But him basically saying "opinions to the contrary would be banned/deleted" is a dangerous mindset for a mod. A thought process of if they don't agree with me they must be wrong is not good for the forums. It's why forums that allow any and all opinions generally do the best. As we saw here, often the most unwelcome opinion ends up being the most accurate.

Agreed... anonymous forums are exactly that and the truth eventually comes out forums being what they are. We must always keep in mind that some posts are based on what the poster may believe is the truth... and of course some may or may not be outright deceptive. Also, keep in mind that some posters know far more than they are willing to post on a public forum and that a high degree of understanding about the offshore business is required to accurately read between the lines and discern between outright ignorant posts and those that are insightful. I am a supporter of the freedom of information within limits as well as people better educating themselves when comes to things that involve their daily routines in life... like gambling. Cheers

[Triumph]

Are you sleeping Little Jon ? Where is your input on this thread lately

[Patrick McIrish]

Also, keep in mind that some posters know far more than they are willing to post on a public forum and that a high degree of understanding about the offshore business is required to accurately read between the lines and discern between outright ignorant posts and those that are insightful.

Absolutely correct, well said.

[boatboatboat]

Is the next bit of news about betislands going to be that they own or are owned by ezstreet

yes

EZ has $ (think what you want, but I KNOW this to be true)but a bad reputaion

BI has no (broke as a chuch mouse) $ but a great reputaion

You do the math. A merger was perfect for both parties.

[wrongturn]

yes

EZ has $ (think what you want, but I KNOW this to be true)but a bad reputaion

BI has no (broke as a chuch mouse) $ but a great reputaion

You do the math. A merger was perfect for both parties.

I am doubtful. EZ could have reputation back by simply paying cory, instead of being bought and still having to pay him.

[Triumph]

What proof do you have that he owns 7RedSports? Jon has gone on the record denying this.

Any questions?

[marcojuiceman]

Hi guys,

Hope all is well as confirmed by SBR , we saw an opportunity to grab a small book and an opportunity to utilize wagering service thats providing the things you guys have always asked for : earlier lines , overnight lines on all mayor sports , better racebook amongst other things.

This is actually a positive step for us with an attempt to expand , our payouts have continued to go out on time like they always have , we have expanded our facilites and a new website + new betting engine is coming out in the next few days.

These forums are here to inform players , and this is what I have always tried to do although it seems that some people get alarmed about certain situations when there is no real reason to be alarmed about.

I have always stated be alarmed when clients are not getting paid ( we have never had a single complaint out there ), not because we are trying to expand or we had a few technical hi cups on the way there.

Cheers

Enuff said"

[Chi_archie]

so what is the deal with 7red? Anyone getting payouts from them?

[lecubs28]

wow re-read the thread knowing what we know now and it doesn't look good

[Triumph]

This thread was a warning about a fraud that was going to cost a lot of players their accounts, now its too late.

[sbcash]

I know Jon, the owner of BetIslands... I've known him for several years. I assure you, Betislands (and Jon) have nothing to do with those other books.

confirmed scum

[7RedFred]

Dear 7Red Customers & SBRer's,

7Red's operations have no affiliation with Betislands and has in no way been affected by their recently announced collapse. It is business as usual at 7Red. Wagers are being accepted and payouts are being processed quickly and professionally. As with many things related to Betislands word of our merger by Jon was riddled with half-truths and grossly exaggerated. Betislands and Jon approached us about a potential merger but as you can see he had no money to run his business let alone buy ours. We will be here as always to support our customers and do everything possible to make you proud to say you do business with 7Red.

Sincerely,
7RedFred

[bostonboss]

We've met and have communication channels with the ownerships from both and seen both offices. There is no connection. My guess is the poster might have used his number to call BI where he has an account for a while. But it's a small world for the offshores. Some sales clerks from different places hang out together and even some bookmakers who run their businesses in entirely different ways are social.

EZ ownership genuinely believes there was an advantage with their casino but they can't have it both ways and make money from it at the same time. Hopefully some day they will revisit.

keep lying bill.

[bostonboss]

Dear 7Red Customers & SBRer's,

7Red's operations have no affiliation with Betislands and has in no way been affected by their recently announced collapse. It is business as usual at 7Red. Wagers are being accepted and payouts are being processed quickly and professionally. As with many things related to Betislands word of our merger by Jon was riddled with half-truths and grossly exaggerated. Betislands and Jon approached us about a potential merger but as you can see he had no money to run his business let alone buy ours. We will be here as always to support our customers and do everything possible to make you proud to say you do business with 7Red.

Sincerely,
7RedFred

business as usual...where have i heard that before?

[Milk Money]

Pure rumors , while i have nothing negative to say about these other books it seems like betislands has been making these other shops step up their games and raising the bar.

jon has one of the best reps in this business with the name he has if he owned any other books im sure he would claim them as his.

wow thanks for the unbiased opinion Jon! Cheers!

[William Walters]

Hi guys,

I posted this in the last thread.

As the owner and founder of Betislands we do NOT have any relations or ties with any sportsbooks , SBR has confirmed this by meeting with ownership and visiting our facilities.

While here at BI we wish the best of luck to our competition , in the end that is what they are competition my job is to make Betislands a top USA out not to partner up with more books.

Over the years my track record has spoken for itself if I post twice regarding this issue is because we have worked hard to brand our name.

Cheers,

Jon

But, but...........I thought Jon was only the GM?

[Triumph]

This thread came out in July, an obvious warning to stay away from a lieing theif and scumbag.

[SamDiamond]

But, but...........I thought Jon was only the GM?

Another nice find William.

You're starting to be the Bob Woodward here.

[sharlataans]

Now people start seeing a bigger picture

[Trident]

Rating Change: 7RedSports

12.18.2012 (11:48 AM CST)7RedSports downgraded from D to F

[Mikail]

Whoa! I just read this entire thread and needless to say I am stunned and outraged. Goes to show you who the liars are around sbr and the industry.

[SplitAces]

Feel dirty. Put this together, Jon, EZ,7red, SBR and you will see the truth.
Jon(SSLP) leaves SBR 4 years ago stating "to start book". SBR John says lets have a drink, at the Pub. O.k.
Fast forward a few years- SBR, BI 1.5 million to Jon.....How much in losses go to to SBR John during that time.
Boys this is what we call a win - win for them.
You ever watch a murder trial and the defendant does not take the stand; you say He must be guilty. If I was eve wrongfully charged I would stand at the roof top and yell" I am innocent" and "I did not do it". I would give proof.

SBR takes the fifth. Figure it out.

[big joe 1212]

Dear 7Red Customers & SBRer's,

7Red's operations have no affiliation with Betislands and has in no way been affected by their recently announced collapse. It is business as usual at 7Red. Wagers are being accepted and payouts are being processed quickly and professionally. As with many things related to Betislands word of our merger by Jon was riddled with half-truths and grossly exaggerated. Betislands and Jon approached us about a potential merger but as you can see he had no money to run his business let alone buy ours. We will be here as always to support our customers and do everything possible to make you proud to say you do business with 7Red.

Sincerely,
7RedFred

you got to be kidding me!

you are obviously Jon/SSLP

anybody who deposits a nickel in 7red deserves to lose everything

[DimSum]

all 3 sites are down right now

[cockblocker]

[studmlb55]

Dear 7Red Customers & SBRer's,

7Red's operations have no affiliation with Betislands and has in no way been affected by their recently announced collapse. It is business as usual at 7Red. Wagers are being accepted and payouts are being processed quickly and professionally. As with many things related to Betislands word of our merger by Jon was riddled with half-truths and grossly exaggerated. Betislands and Jon approached us about a potential merger but as you can see he had no money to run his business let alone buy ours. We will be here as always to support our customers and do everything possible to make you proud to say you do business with 7Red.

Sincerely,
7RedFred

Thanks Jon...

And btw, sincerely doesn't have quite the "catch phraseability" as cheers does...

[SlickRick1382]

So looks like all these posts from "disgruntled employees" as they were labeled by SBR were more than that. Apparently SBR is always the last in the know (sarcasm)

Find it hard to believe that all these things were posted months ago and nothing was done to investigate the truth ...

[jb456223]

I don't know if this will help anyone or if it even means anything but if you use tollfreenumber DOT com you will see BI numbers are registered to Digital Solutions in Florida. It says number is client for Digital Solutions. If you search EZstreets and 7redsports there numbers are also Digital Solutions except for 7redsports sales line. Digital Solutions appears to be a hosting facilitie for Costa Rica books. A google search of Digital Solutions with their address brings up an old rx post from 2005 where someone asks for Costa Rica hosting facilities for a small book startup and Digital Solutions was recommend. I don't know what this all means maybe they are all linked or maybe Digital sells numbers to ther books? Hopefully someone with further knowledge will take a look and comment

[ttrace35]

Unrealz

[CappinTerp]

Wow, what a good read.!!

[offshoreguy]

I don't know if this will help anyone or if it even means anything but if you use tollfreenumber DOT com you will see BI numbers are registered to Digital Solutions in Florida. It says number is client for Digital Solutions. If you search EZstreets and 7redsports there numbers are also Digital Solutions except for 7redsports sales line. Digital Solutions appears to be a hosting facilitie for Costa Rica books. A google search of Digital Solutions with their address brings up an old rx post from 2005 where someone asks for Costa Rica hosting facilities for a small book startup and Digital Solutions was recommend. I don't know what this all means maybe they are all linked or maybe Digital sells numbers to ther books? Hopefully someone with further knowledge will take a look and comment

digital is nothing more than a digital communications company that some books use.