[freeVICK]

Can JJ please call in a prank

[Bluehorseshoe]

Capt Janks retired didnt he?

I thought so. That's the first I've heard in years.

[shari91]

'We warned you not to fly in our sky': Boasts of Russian separatist as evidence emerges of Putin's forces launching missiles into Ukraine days before MH17 disaster

• Rebel commander tweeted about downing Ukrainian military plane
• He said: 'We warned you - do not fly in our sky'
• Chilling statement just before airliner downed over Ukraine-Russia border
  
• As details about the Malaysia Airlines flight emerged, the tweet was deleted

Rebel commander Igor Strelkov - widely believed in Kiev to be a serving Russian military intelligence officer - tweeted a boastful message about shooting down a military plane shortly before Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was downed.
The tweet indicated his rebels had shot down an Antonov-26 military plane of the Ukrainian Air Force. The Antonov is a large transport plane of a type used by Ukraine's forces.

The message read: 'In the area Torez we just hit down An-26, it's lying somewhere in the mine "Progress".
'We warned you- do not fly in "our sky". And here is the video confirmation of the "bird dropping".
'Bird fell fell near the mine, the residential sector was not disturbed. Civilians are not injured.'

Later as the horror became clear, the tweet was deleted. Separatist forces have blown at least three Ukrainian military planes out of the sky in the past 48 hours.

Today, militia from the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) brought down a military transport Antonov-26 (An-26) plane of the Ukrainian Air Force on the outskirts of the town of Torez, eyewitnesses said.

A missile hit the An-26, it fell on the ground and caught blaze, they said.
Earlier, pro-Russia rebels claimed responsibility for surface-to-air missile strikes on two Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 jets yesterday.

The Ukrainian Defense Ministry said the second jet was hit by a portable surface-to-air missile adding that the pilot was unscathed and managed to land his plane safely.


The news comes as footage that some claim proves Russia has launched military attacks on Ukraine from its own territory emerged today.

The images allegedly show an attack by a truck-mounted 'Grad' 122 mm multiple rocket launcher from close to Gukovo in Russia's Rostov region across the frontier into neighbouring Ukraine.
Kiev has been making increasingly strong complaints that Moscow is mounting attacks from its own territory as well as supporting insurgents with weapons and reinforcements.
Moscow has denied such accusations.

The head of organization 'Civil Initiative' Dmitry Snegirev claimed today that this footage - from late on 16 July - shows strikes from Gukovo onto Krasnodonsk district in the Lugansk region of Ukraine.
He claimed locals had provided the information about the 'Grad' strikes.

Ukrainian journalist Roman Bochkala wrote on Facebook: 'Here is direct evidence of shelling of Ukraine with "Grad" from the territory of the Russian Federation. Two units are firing in the village Gukovo, Rostov region.'
Claiming it was not the first such strike, he posted a map showing where the alleged attack originated.
One horrific account of the crash said bodies had fallen out of the stricken plane over the village of Rassypnaya.
More than a dozen corpses of people who appeared to be of Asian descent, some naked, were strewn around the village, said Aleks Noit, who has relatives living nearby.
'Wreckage and bodies fell on the private houses in the village and near the hospital. People in uniform collected the corpses.'
Among the possessions were passports of the victims, which were quickly copied onto the social media.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz37kxVghzw

[shari91]

BREAKING: Ukrainian security chief accuses two Russian intelligence officers of involvement in crash based on phone intercepts for proof

BREAKING: U.S. aviation authorities say American air carriers have voluntarily agreed to avoid airspace near Russia-Ukraine border

BREAKING: Eurocontrol says Eastern Ukraine airspace closed

[pavyracer]

This happened before in Ukraine about 13 years ago:

Siberia Airlines Flight 1812

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Occurrence summary
Date	4 October 2001
Summary	Shot down by a missile
Site	Black Sea
Passengers	66
Crew	12
Fatalities	78 (all)
Aircraft type	Tupolev Tu-154M
Operator	Siberia Airlines
Registration	RA-85693
Flight origin	Ben Gurion Int'l Airport Tel Aviv, Israel
Destination	Novosibirsk Tolmachevo Airport Novosibirsk, Russia

Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 crashed over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv, Israel to Novosibirsk, Russia. The plane, a Soviet-made Tupolev Tu-154, carried an estimated 66 passengers and 12 crew members. Most of the passengers were Israelis visiting relatives in Russia. No one on board survived. The crash site is some 190 km west-southwest of the Black Sea resort of Sochi and 140 km north of the Turkishcoastal town of Fatsa and 350 km east-southeast of Feodosiya, Ukraine. Ukraine admitted that the disaster was probably caused by an errant missile fired by its armed forces.^[1]

[Let's Go Rangers]

I thought so. That's the first I've heard in years.

Just recently he said he was gay and officially retiring.

Speculation is he was pranking Howard with his out of closet announcement ( which he did live in studio 69 )

[Bluehorseshoe]

Just recently he said he was gay and officially retiring.

Speculation is he was pranking Howard with his out of closet announcement ( which he did live in studio 69 )

Didn't he work at a gas station in Philly?

[shari91]

Ah it makes sense why that Google translation I did was referring to "beech". I was like how the f am I supposed to understand this?!

From ABCNewsAU:

Reports have suggested pro-Russian separatists shot down the jet with a Buk surface-to-air missile.


The Buk - which means beech tree in Russia - is a 1970s vintage, truck-mounted, radar-guided missile system, codenamed SA-11 Gadfly by Cold War NATO adversaries.


It fires a 5.7-metre, 55kg missile up to 28 kilometres



Armed separatists were hindering search efforts at the crash site, the head of Ukraine's emergency services said.


"The search work is difficult because we are talking about a big radius ... but also because armed terrorists who are on the spot are hampering things," Serhiy Bochkovsky told journalists



Ukraine's president Petro Poroshenko has called for an international investigation into the air disaster.
"I just concluded a conversation with the prime minister of the Netherlands. I offered our condolences and on behalf of Ukraine invited Dutch experts to take part in an open investigation into this act of terrorism.

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that we are not calling it an accident, but an act of terrorism."






BREAKING: In a statement, Eurocontrol - the European organisation for the safety of air navigation - says MH17 was flying in open airspace, but about 1,000 feet above a closed section of airspace.

According to our information, the aircraft was flying at Flight Level 330 (approximately 10,000 metres/33,000 feet) when it disappeared from the radar.


This route had been closed by the Ukrainian authorities from ground to flight level 320 but was open at the level at which the aircraft was flying.

[Kermit]

It looks like everyone is now blaming each other.

[Boner_18]

This is stupid. You can't see the colors of a jet flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft from the ground.

This is how a jet looks like from the ground:

Its not. Dont you think rebels have binoculars or even more powerful sights? I mean, you can identify planes with cheap consumer binocs... its really not that ridiculous...

[pavyracer]

Its not. Dont you think rebels have binoculars or even more powerful sights? I mean, you can identify planes with cheap consumer binocs... its really not that ridiculous...

Go get some binoculars and try to track a jet flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft.

[itchypickle]

"blast of air from Stern's ass'....followed by "so you saw it, can you tell us more from your military training?"

That's MSNBC for ya folks.

[Let's Go Rangers]

Go get some binoculars and try to track a jet flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft.

BUK missiles have optical sights

[Let's Go Rangers]

"blast of air from Stern's ass'....followed by "so you saw it, can you tell us more from your military training?"

That's MSNBC for ya folks.

They found a liberal gal that doesnt look like a man....
You can't expect her to be smart

[pavyracer]

BUK missiles have optical sights

Why will they use optical sights to shoot down a Malaysian airliner? "Hey dude look what I found on my optical sights? A Malaysian Airlines jet. I wonder what will happen if I press this red button that says LAUNCH?"

[Boner_18]

Go get some binoculars and try to track a jet flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft.

Wow you are serious. Whelp I guess I cant help you... 500mph is really fast and 33000ft is really far. I guess identifying an object is ridiculous.

[shari91]

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Yusuf ‏@YusufDFI Picture of the Buk SAM flaunted by seperatists before it was hurriedly taken off.Not b4 a screenshot was taken

[itchypickle]

They found a liberal gal that doesnt look like a man....
You can't expect her to be smart

Considering she's a failed congressional candidate who goes on to mock Romney for losing his race all the time, followed by Al Sharpton's show where he can barely read a coherent sentence....I'd say the prank caller is probably the most credible person on the network

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Go get some binoculars and try to track a jet flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft.

c'mon pal, stop it. you telling me it's easier to hit a plane with a missile than to track it down with a binocular?

[itchypickle]

The MSNBC anchor who got owned....her name is actually Krystal Ball....how did that name not see that coming?

[pavyracer]

Wow you are serious. Whelp I guess I cant help you... 500mph is really fast and 33000ft is really far. I guess identifying an object is ridiculous.

Can you see that horse going 50 mph at 8 furlongs?

Yes I do!

[Boner_18]

http://aviation.stackexchange.com/qu...ewing-aircraft

For anyone who wants to reasonably know how easy it is to id flying aircraft.

[Vegas39]

The MSNBC anchor who got owned....her name is actually Krystal Ball....how did that name not see that coming?

[Boner_18]

Distance makes it EASIER to track moving through a field of view! Science is amazing!

[pavyracer]

c'mon pal, stop it. you telling me it's easier to hit a plane with a missile than to track it down with a binocular?

You can't the the letters on a commercial jet from the ground using the binoculars you take to the racetrack.

[shari91]

Nationalities confirmed so far with 47 yet unknown
dutch : 154 dead
Australians: 27 dead
Indonesian: 11 dead
Malaysian: 23 dead
Americans: 6 dead
Germans : 4 dead
Filipinos : 3 dead
Canadian : 1 dead
French: 4 dead

RIP. People going on or coming home from holidays and look wtf happens. Sickening.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

pavy just stop it. you think they blindly shoot down planes just for fun? they exactly knew what they were shooting down.

[pavyracer]

pavy just stop it. you think they blindly shoot down planes just for fun? they exactly knew what they were shooting down.

Huh? Quit drinking.

I only said you can't use $30 binoculars to see the letters of a plane flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft from the ground.

Everything else is your words. Put the bottle down.

[Boner_18]

You can't the the letters on a commercial jet from the ground using the binoculars you take to the racetrack.

Lololol.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

You can't the the letters on a commercial jet from the ground using the binoculars you take to the racetrack.

[shari91]

BREAKING: Malaysian PM Najib says downed aircraft did not make a distress call

BREAKING: Putin says airplane disaster would not have happened if Kiev had not renewed military operation against rebels in east Ukraine

BREAKING: Russia's Putin says Kiev bears responsibility for crash of passenger plane because it was brought down in Ukraine: RIA


A woman holding a sign that reads, "Putin is a murderer", lies down near flowers left by people to commemorate victims of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash, at the Dutch embassy in Kiev. REUTERS/Valentyn Ogirenko

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Huh? Quit drinking.

I only said you can't use $30 binoculars to see the letters of a plane flying 500 mph at 33,000 ft from the ground.

Everything else is your words. Put the bottle down.

wtf are you talking about you fukking crackhead? we're talking about the people that shot the plane down. not some degenerate in the racetracks. fukking clown!!!!

[pavyracer]

You can buy these at $7,000 a piece. That will do it!

[pavyracer]

wtf are you talking about you fukking crackhead? we're talking about the people that shot the plane down. not some degenerate in the racetracks. fukking clown!!!!

You are a fukking clown. Read my posts again.

[shari91]

pavy just stop it. you think they blindly shoot down planes just for fun? they exactly knew what they were shooting down.

I think in this case they did blindly shoot down a plane. Look at all the others that were in the area but had the luxury of turning back after this one went down. If they had wanted to shoot down this plane why are they scrubbing their social media accounts and not claiming it? They've happily claimed everything else they've done. They fukked up by hitting a commercial airliner. I struggle to see why they'd target one specifically over another. Especially one filled with Euros, Aussies and North Americans. That's not going to help anyone out no matter what side they're on.