[baskets]

paco did it


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[MatI]

So let me see what you are saying here, every single news organization is ignoring this. You do realize that BIG stories are what news people are about, right. You do realize that if any of this was anywhere near the truth that every one of these news people would suck your pp and any other pp to get this story.The news people are hoping for a story like this, are you aware of this fact? This is what they live for.
Yet not one of them is reporting on this, they have tens of thousands of investigators who would kill for this story. You really think they missed it. You guys are the gullible people.

Stuff like this does not stay covered my friends. The conspiracy you see is in you heads but you think that you are the enlightened people. Tens of thousands of Americans in on a conspiracy, are you completely out of your mind?

The media is in on it as well, of course!!

[texhooper]

if a couple of hollywood writers could come up with a situation where the joker is able to pull off a bank heist where everyone involved ends up dead except for him as he makes off with the loot, why is it so crazy to think that the government can't pull off a similar feat on a larger scale?

honestly, my only rationale against that is that they seem to fuk up everything else they touch.

[Dutch]

Dutch, no offense, but gullible fellas like you will go to the grave believing that bullshit tyrannical government propaganda.

If I told you someone here actually took the time to read all that cut and paste shit you posted in this thread, and you believed me, that would be gullible of you.

Not believing some random youtube video is not gullible.

I believe that the U.S knew an attack using commercial airplanes was imminent and did nothing to stop it. Isn't that enough?

Do people really need to believe that George Bush and Dick Chaney actually ordered a demolition crew to go into the wtc and put in charges, and that they also hired a crew of people to somehow make planes crash into the buildings.

Just typing that silly shit is fuking stupid. I couldn't imagine believing it.

[pronk]

If I told you someone here actually took the time to read all that cut and paste shit you posted in this thread, and you believed me, that would be gullible of you.

Not believing some random youtube video is not gullible.

I believe that the U.S knew an attack using commercial airplanes was imminent and did nothing to stop it. Isn't that enough?

Do people really need to believe that George Bush and Dick Chaney actually ordered a demolition crew to go into the wtc and put in charges, and that they also hired a crew of people to somehow make planes crash into the buildings.

Just typing that silly shit is fuking stupid. I couldn't imagine believing it.

Bitter truth is better than a sweet lie pal. Bush, Chaney, Clintons, Obama are only puppets and traitors hardly working for American people but working very hard for those bastards who financed their rigged presidencies. And damn you if you are also working for those traitors.

[dante1]

Bitter truth is better than a sweet lie pal. Bush, Chaney, Clintons, Obama are only puppets and traitors hardly working for American people but working very hard for those bastards who financed their rigged presidencies. And damn you if you are also working for those traitors.

So all those four and everybody related in some way we must be talking about hundreds of thousands of people. And yet not one has talked. Pronk, I hurt for you, living with that brain of yours must be extreme torture.

[pronk]

So all those four and everybody related in some way we must be talking about hundreds of thousands of people. And yet not one has talked. Pronk, I hurt for you, living with that brain of yours must be extreme torture.

You got it, i would rather have "that" brain than no brain at all. And those hundreds of thousands of people you are talking about are programmed patsies of CIA's MK-Ultra (monarch slaves).

[pronk]

1953: Central Intelligence Agency director Allen Dulles authorizes the MK-ULTRA project. The agency launches one of its most dubious covert programs ever, turning unsuspecting humans into guinea pigs for its research into mind-altering drugs.
More than a decade before psychologist Timothy Leary advocated the benefits of LSD and urged everyone to “turn on, tune in, drop out,” the CIA’s Technical Services Staff launched the highly classified project to study the mind-control effects of this and other psychedelic drugs, using unwitting U.S. and Canadian citizens as lab mice.
Dulles wanted to close the “brainwashing gap” that arose after the United States learned that American prisoners of war in Korea were subjected to mind-control techniques by their captors.
Loathe to be outdone by foreign enemies, the CIA sought, through its research, to devise a truth serum to enhance the interrogations of POWs and captured spies. The agency also wanted to develop techniques and drugs — such as “amnesia pills” — to create CIA superagents who would be immune to the mind-control efforts of adversaries.
MK-ULTRA even hoped to create a “Manchurian Candidate”, or programmable assassin, and devise a way to control the minds of pesky despots, like Fidel Castro — giving credence forevermore to claims by the tinfoil-hat contingent that the government is out to control our minds.
In addition to drugs, the program included more than a hundred sub-projects that involved radiological implants, hypnosis and subliminal persuasion, electroshock therapy and isolation techniques. (The MK in the project name referred to the Technical Services Division that oversaw the project, and ULTRA was a security classification applied to top-secret intelligence.)
More than 30 universities and institutions participated in CIA-funded research, though not all were aware the spy agency was their benefactor, because funding was sometimes laundered through shell organizations.
Under the guise of research, LSD, whose psychedelic properties were discovered by a Swiss chemist in 1943, was secretly administered to CIA employees, U.S. soldiers and psychiatric patients, as well as the general public.
One federal drug agent who worked as a “consultant” for the CIA for a project dubbed “Operation Midnight Climax” hired prostitutes to slip the drug to unsuspecting clients, then watched through two-way mirrors as the clients tripped out. He also reportedly slipped the drug to patrons at bars and restaurants.
The CIA ultimately concluded that the drug was too unpredictable for reliable research, but that was too late for Frank Olson.
Olson was a 43-year-old civilian germ-warfare researcher for the U.S. Army who was also a CIA employee and an unwitting recipient of CIA acid. During a 1953 meeting at a mountain retreat with MK-ULTRA head Dr. Sidney Gottlieb and other CIA employees, Olson and four other scientists drank a glass of Cointreau that had been secretly spiked with LSD.
They were told about the drug about 20 minutes after ingesting it. Olson apparently had a severe reaction and left the retreat in an agitated state and later threatened to resign.
The CIA claimed he suffered a sudden bout of extreme paranoia and depression and sent him to a psychiatrist in New York for consultation. He died in a “fall” from the 10th floor of his New York hotel room. A CIA employee who had accompanied him to New York reported that he awoke at 1:30 a.m. to see Olson hurl himself through the closed window.

Olson left a 38-year-old widow and three children under the age of 10. In the absence of other evidence, Olson’s family reluctantly accepted the CIA’s puzzling explanation that the scientist had been suddenly seized by a fatal depression.
When news of the CIA’s secret LSD program finally leaked out 20 years later, the family learned through a congressional inquiry that Olson had been slipped some of the hallucinogen days before his death. The CIA continued to insist that Olson had committed suicide, but at President Gerald Ford’s urging, the family was paid $750,000.
It wasn’t until the 1990s, when Olson’s son had his father’s body exhumed and examined, that he discovered that his father might have actually died from a blunt force trauma to the head, which may have been received prior to his fall from the window.
Olson wasn’t the only casualty of the CIA’s drug tests. A tennis pro who had gone to the New York Psychiatric Institute for depression following a divorce fell into a coma and died. He’d been administered a derivative of mescaline. There were other cases of suspect deaths and lives left in ruin.
The victim’s families might have sued to obtain records of the secret program, but CIA Director Richard Helms had ordered the MK-ULTRA project files destroyed in 1973.
The program was brought to light in 1975 through investigations by the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission that were established to investigate government surveillance operations in the wake of the Watergate wiretapping scandal and other domestic-spying revelations.
By then, the MK-ULTRA project had supposedly been closed. But this was by no means the end to misguided covert government programs, such as the remote-viewing project at SRI. Another, less-organized military project, inspired the story behind the recent film The Men Who Stare at Goats.
Dulles gave the go-ahead for MK-ULTRA, as it turns out, on the very day that Ian Fleming’s first James Bond novel, Casino Royale, appeared. Coincidence? You decide.

[RubberKettle]

Gotta love these enlightened fuks who spout their drivel off every time they run into something that peaks their interest across the interwebs.

You're not uncovering a great mystery. You're not Indiana Jones solving crimes and putting pieces together. You're delusional shuts who should put down the mouse and go outside.

[dante1]

Gotta love these enlightened fuks who spout their drivel off every time they run into something that peaks their interest across the interwebs.

You're not uncovering a great mystery. You're not Indiana Jones solving crimes and putting pieces together. You're delusional shuts who should put down the mouse and go outside.

Yep, they really think they are on to something and everybody else is stupid. Years pass and nothing comes of it so they jump on another crazy wagon.

[BettingWizard]

you only have to use your eyes to see it was an inside job. Both Buildings fall perfectly, demolition style.

your theories on who was or could know about it, means nothing. The physical evidence is there.

[PAULYPOKER]

Let the people who turn a blind eye to reality alone..........

Most people can't handle truth,

their psyche is much to fragile for such a load,

they would clearly lose control over their own mind ....................

[blue.eyed.tuna]

all this info was found on the internet , so it must be true. Just like that video of michael vick throwing that ball out of the stadium. Frankly, who cares? I can dig up "evidence" of anything I want on the internet. This is pointless trash.

[blue.eyed.tuna]

you guys really need to get out of the house more and live life. Let's say the .000000000001% chance that any of this is true... so what? Go live your lives. Saying things like "the avg public's mind would explode if they new the real truth" is about as silly as it gets. You've derailed my friends. Go get laid, eat a hot dog, and catch a ball game. The internet and its misinformtion is making you cuckoo

[pronk]

all this info was found on the internet , so it must be true. Just like that video of michael vick throwing that ball out of the stadium. Frankly, who cares? I can dig up "evidence" of anything I want on the internet. This is pointless trash.

On internet, really? I just read that tsunami warning was issued after a 7.9 magnitude earthquake hits off the coast of the Philippines, and oh yeah, on internet! Well my friend, you are an idiot and it will be on INTERNET available to other posters and readers, how about that.

[soxwin1917]

pronk, it makes you look less credible when you're just copy and pasting timeline information and passing it all off as fact. Anyone with any kind of graduate schooling immediately thinks you're full of it.

[pulledclear]

Im really not as cool as I'd like to be
Cause there's a red, under my bed
And there's a little yellow man in my head
And there's a true blue inside of me
That keeps stoppin me, touchin ya, watchin ya, lovin ya

Paranoia, the destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer.

Well I fell asleep, then I woke feelin kinda queer
Lola looked at me and said, ooh you look so weird.
She said, man, there's really something wrong with you.
One day you're gonna self-destruct.
Youre up, you're down, I can't work you out
You get a good thing goin then you blow yourself out.

Silly boy ya self-destroyer. silly boy ya self-destroyer

Silly boy you got so much to live for
So much to aim for, so much to try for
You blowing it all with paranoia
Youre so insecure you self-destroyer

Dr. dr. help me please, I know you'll understand
There's a time device inside of me, Im a self-destructin man
There's a red, under my bed
And there's a little green man in my head
And he said, you're not goin crazy, you're just a bit sad
Cause there's a man in ya, knawin ya, tearin ya into two.

Silly boy ya self-destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer

Self-destroyer, wreck your health
Destroy friends, destroy yourself
The time device of self-destruction
Light the fuse and start eruption

[pronk]

Im really not as cool as I'd like to be
Cause there's a red, under my bed
And there's a little yellow man in my head
And there's a true blue inside of me
That keeps stoppin me, touchin ya, watchin ya, lovin ya

Paranoia, the destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer.

Well I fell asleep, then I woke feelin kinda queer
Lola looked at me and said, ooh you look so weird.
She said, man, there's really something wrong with you.
One day you're gonna self-destruct.
Youre up, you're down, I can't work you out
You get a good thing goin then you blow yourself out.

Silly boy ya self-destroyer. silly boy ya self-destroyer

Silly boy you got so much to live for
So much to aim for, so much to try for
You blowing it all with paranoia
Youre so insecure you self-destroyer

Dr. dr. help me please, I know you'll understand
There's a time device inside of me, Im a self-destructin man
There's a red, under my bed
And there's a little green man in my head
And he said, you're not goin crazy, you're just a bit sad
Cause there's a man in ya, knawin ya, tearin ya into two.

Silly boy ya self-destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer

Self-destroyer, wreck your health
Destroy friends, destroy yourself
The time device of self-destruction
Light the fuse and start eruption

BINGO!!! Homeland Security is all about PARANOIA- terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror, terror and more TERRRRRORRRRRR.

[LarrysKid]

^{Who do you believe?}

Hard to believe anybody.

[PAULYPOKER]

you guys really need to get out of the house more and live life. Let's say the .000000000001% chance that any of this is true... so what? Go live your lives. Saying things like "the avg public's mind would explode if they new the real truth" is about as silly as it gets. You've derailed my friends. Go get laid, eat a hot dog, and catch a ball game. The internet and its misinformtion is making you cuckoo

Cognitive Dissonance Avoidance, Denial, & Rationalization is the very reason why people are easily controlled by government..........
If there is a lot of built up psychological stake in a certain position or attitude and a piece of solid evidence comes in which conflicts with that position, it may be easier, psychologically, to dismiss the new information than alter the existing structure.
You can imagine how ingrained psychological structures can be when a human being is raised within a certain country, system, or reality. Growing up in the US, or any culture, for that matter, you will absorb an overwhelming number of messages about what is true, what is possible, and what is important.
Many of of these messages are absorbed subconsciously and become part of the basic structure of our reality. It becomes very difficult to question the fundamentals when opposing messages only come in small doses from the “fringe.”


Consider these two examples:

• Believing that your friend is trustworthy (having built up that attitude over years of experience) is a cognition that would be dissonant with the sudden discovery of your friend stealing money from you. As a result, you might seek to dismiss or minimize the importance of this new information—maybe telling yourself it was a freak thing, a joke, or an accident, or that he was broke or desperate or on drugs. You might even try to forget that you saw it.
• In presenting new, contradictory (dissonant) evidence concerning 9/11, it is frustrating how many people immediately begin to bring up rationalizations and excuses in order to dismiss the significance of the information. You can often witness cognitive dissonance in action as these skeptics try to avoid the psychological turmoil of facing the very disturbing implications of 9/11 Truth. The collapse ofWTC 7 is an interesting example. Skeptics are likely to quickly dismiss this piece of evidence rather than acknowledge the suspicious fact that the destruction of a third skyscraper was essentially blacked-out of the official story of 9/11 by the government and media.

[blue.eyed.tuna]

Cognitive Dissonance Avoidance, Denial, & Rationalization is the very reason why people are easily controlled by government..........
If there is a lot of built up psychological stake in a certain position or attitude and a piece of solid evidence comes in which conflicts with that position, it may be easier, psychologically, to dismiss the new information than alter the existing structure.
You can imagine how ingrained psychological structures can be when a human being is raised within a certain country, system, or reality. Growing up in the US, or any culture, for that matter, you will absorb an overwhelming number of messages about what is true, what is possible, and what is important.
Many of of these messages are absorbed subconsciously and become part of the basic structure of our reality. It becomes very difficult to question the fundamentals when opposing messages only come in small doses from the “fringe.”


Consider these two examples:

• Believing that your friend is trustworthy (having built up that attitude over years of experience) is a cognition that would be dissonant with the sudden discovery of your friend stealing money from you. As a result, you might seek to dismiss or minimize the importance of this new information—maybe telling yourself it was a freak thing, a joke, or an accident, or that he was broke or desperate or on drugs. You might even try to forget that you saw it.
• In presenting new, contradictory (dissonant) evidence concerning 9/11, it is frustrating how many people immediately begin to bring up rationalizations and excuses in order to dismiss the significance of the information. You can often witness cognitive dissonance in action as these skeptics try to avoid the psychological turmoil of facing the very disturbing implications of 9/11 Truth. The collapse ofWTC 7 is an interesting example. Skeptics are likely to quickly dismiss this piece of evidence rather than acknowledge the suspicious fact that the destruction of a third skyscraper was essentially blacked-out of the official story of 9/11 by the government and media.

My point was lets say I take this as fact; so what? Go live your lives and enjoy them. Your perception is your reality. Make of it what you want. To get cranked up or focus on what you have no control over doesn't aid in your own reality. Frankly, I think that there was a vast liberal media who had 8 years to really hammer the Bush Admin as they loved to do with this type of info. Believing that they let this MAJOR "evidence" die while hammering so many other points of lesser significance doesn't add up to me. Why didn't they black-out the official reports of WMDs in Iraq etc? And that is my reality. To each his own I guess.

[pronk]

Hard to believe anybody.

[MC PICKS]

Interesting video.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Forget Alex Jones and his cult, the guy is a whack job.

Ryan Dawson's, War By Deception, makes a serious attempt to examine the 9/11 story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoB80Yk9NYg

[MC PICKS]

This one is interesting too.

[Caranono]

what matters is that what really happened should be introduced to the people, I guess we all have the right to know.

[pronk]

“If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged” -Professor Noam Chomsky

[pronk]

[Grosshhit]

After reading this thread, Pronk, Mikail, both of you are fking morons. Ignorant as all hell. Listen I have been on the inside of our government, held a security clearance and for both of you to really believe that our government is capable of pulling off this 9/11 stunt is fking hilarious. Both of you are sad individuals. Ive met a couple of guys like you in my day and usually you are fat, lazy, ugly, never get pussy, mad about everything so you come up with crazy conspiracies. But we are the sheep for following along with what we see before our eyes and you are the enlightened individuals believing what you see on Youtube.

[TheRifleman]

what a bunch of nuts....get a life you losers. 9-11 was NOT a US Gov. conspiracy...I'll bet my life on it...

[TheRifleman]

I think 9-11 was a US Gov. conspiracy....that's the funniest thing i've ever heard .....you're killing me..make it STOP!!!

[TheRifleman]

If I told you someone here actually took the time to read all that cut and paste shit you posted in this thread, and you believed me, that would be gullible of you.

Not believing some random youtube video is not gullible.

I believe that the U.S knew an attack using commercial airplanes was imminent and did nothing to stop it. Isn't that enough?

Do people really need to believe that George Bush and Dick Chaney actually ordered a demolition crew to go into the wtc and put in charges, and that they also hired a crew of people to somehow make planes crash into the buildings.

Just typing that silly shit is fuking stupid. I couldn't imagine believing it.

these people are morons....mostly brain - dead idiot, pot-smoking, loser leftists...they are sick, truly sick.

[Dr.Gonzo]

After reading this thread, Pronk, Mikail, both of you are fking morons. Ignorant as all hell. Listen I have been on the inside of our government, held a security clearance and for both of you to really believe that our government is capable of pulling off this 9/11 stunt is fking hilarious. Both of you are sad individuals. Ive met a couple of guys like you in my day and usually you are fat, lazy, ugly, never get pussy, mad about everything so you come up with crazy conspiracies. But we are the sheep for following along with what we see before our eyes and you are the enlightened individuals believing what you see on Youtube.

I'll site the Gulf of Tonkin incident as a false flag.

As for black opps, I'll site the Iran-Contra affair, did you know about it at the time?

[Dr.Gonzo]

these people are penetrating morons....mostly brain - dead idiot leftists...they are sick, truly sick.

The left wing support an expansion of government, no these people are mostly right wing libertarian.

[TheRifleman]

1000 pounds of Thermite could not even Cut a Suv in half on myth busters. Rdx comp a is bullpucky as well.. Truthers are limited in Truth. The facts don't add up for an Inside Job.What president has ever gotten away with even a sex Scandal? Let alone A controlled demo whilst the WHOLE WORLD WATCHED Lol lol lol lol lol lol! Please.......... if we needed oil. All we needed to do is deregulate the oil Commission and Stop the Enviornment Freeks from doing anything.. O I know Bush Says Let's Attack the Pentagon and kill our Close Freinds and family There First.. Duuuggghhhhh gahukkk wow what a plan.. Truther Get a Life.