[pellumb341]

not saying it was fixed, just that people are idiots

so you think it was not fixed ??? Once i saw this thread i opened my 188bet account to look the odds and i have posted the odds above...take a look and if you still don't think that it was fixed , then you are the idiot one .

Like a previous poster has stated , central-eastern teams do fix most of their matches.

Some days ago , it was a friendly match Ekranas(Lithuania) - Debrecen ( hungary) ...it was 30-th min , result 0-0 and over 2.5 dropped to 1.3 (188bet) Immediately i played it at bwin with odd 2.2
At half time bwin removed this match which ended 4-0 .

The same happened at Banik ostrava (Czech republic) - Podbeskidze ( Poland) ... i played it over 3.5 at 30-th minute and the match ended 2-4

Fixed matches on this sunday , Kuban Krasnodar vs Steaua Bucharest and Lokomotiv Plovdiv vs Hajduk Split


As you can see , all teams involved are central-eastern teams

[FourLengthsClear]

This is so funny. Albanian troll starts "fixed match" thread. (as if we didnt know how this would end) and so all the nubs now have their tin foil conspiracy hats on.

So now the team he said will win in this "fix" is not going to win. So everyone thinks it has to be fixed anyway. Say what?

So instead of a "reverse jinx" do we now have the term "reverse fix"?

the in-play odds were completely off for a 'normal' game.

At the 60 minute mark with the score at 1-1 the odds on over 3.5 goals were in the region of 1.54 (-186). The fair line in a normal game would have been in the region of +200.

I have no idea what info the OP did or did not have about this game but something was up.

[pellumb341]

the in-play odds were completely off for a 'normal' game.

At the 60 minute mark with the score at 1-1 the odds on over 3.5 goals were in the region of 1.54 (-186). The fair line in a normal game would have been in the region of +200.

even when play barcelona against weakest teams of spain , there are not these odds.

On all matches i have stated above , i have seen these ridiculous odds.

ALL friendly matches are organized to be fixed !!!

[SportsMushroom]

so you think it was not fixed ??? Once i saw this thread i opened my 188bet account to look the odds and i have posted the odds above...take a look and if you still don't think that it was fixed , then you are the idiot one .

Like a previous poster has stated , central-eastern teams do fix most of their matches.

Some days ago , it was a friendly match Ekranas(Lithuania) - Debrecen ( hungary) ...it was 30-th min , result 0-0 and over 2.5 dropped to 1.3 (188bet) Immediately i played it at bwin with odd 2.2
At half time bwin removed this match which ended 4-0 .

The same happened at Banik ostrava (Czech republic) - Podbeskidze ( Poland) ... i played it over 3.5 at 30-th minute and the match ended 2-4

Fixed matches on this sunday , Kuban Krasnodar vs Steaua Bucharest and Lokomotiv Plovdiv vs Hajduk Split


As you can see , all teams involved are central-eastern teams

the average total for a regular nba game is 190 points

the total in the all star game, which is essentially a friendly game is like 270


not every game is the same, some games have totals of 2 some have totals of 4

if the books expect a high scoring game that does not mean that the game is fixed, it just means that that there will be a lot of offense and little defence

definition of irony= being called an idiot by people that believe books would take bets on fixed friendly games


yes I am sure that books offer lines on games they know that are fixed, just so they can take your $100 but lose millions to the people that supposedly fixed the game

[FourLengthsClear]

the average total for a regular nba game is 190 points

the total in the all star game, which is essentially a friendly game is like 270


not every game is the same, some games have totals of 2 some have totals of 4

if the books expect a high scoring game that does not mean that the game is fixed, it just means that that there will be a lot of offense and little defence

definition of irony= being called an idiot by people that believe books would take bets on fixed friendly games


yes I am sure that books offer lines on games they know that are fixed, just so they can take your $100 but lose millions to the people that supposedly fixed the game

Pre-match the odds implied at projected total of 2.64 goals.
Only very slightly above average.

Books cannot lose millions when they limit maximum bets to USD 600 and juice the 'popular' side to the extent they did.

[SportsMushroom]

Pre-match the odds implied at projected total of 2.64 goals.
Only very slightly above average.

Books cannot lose millions when they limit maximum bets to USD 600 and juice the 'popular' side to the extent they did.

THANK YOU!!!


who would fix a match just so they can win $600


you know how much money players get paid, both teams that played today have players that get paid high six figures and also a lot that get paid seven figures a year, and you say they would fix it for 600 bucks




even refs get paid more than that per game

even if you offer the ref 5.000 (highly doubt that would be enough) to fix it for you, how are you gonna make a profit betting 600 on the game

[pellumb341]

mate i am not talking about pre-match odds...i am talking about live betting

i am giving you an exmple

few day ago there was a match between ekranas (lithuania) and debrecen (hungary).

until 30 -th minute everything was alright with the odds and the result was 0-0

at 30-th minute over 2.5 dropped from 2.00 to 1.30

the match ended 4-0

how do you explain this ?

[SportsMushroom]

mate i am not talking about pre-match odds...i am talking about live betting

i am giving you an exmple

few day ago there was a match between ekranas (lithuania) and debrecen (hungary).

until 30 -th minute everything was alright with the odds and the result was 0-0

at 30-th minute over 2.5 dropped from 2.00 to 1.30

the match ended 4-0

how do you explain this ?

dude Ive seen the exact same thing happen in champions league qualifiers last august, game was 0-0 at half yet total was over 2.5 at 1.4 odds or something like that

are you going to sit there and tell me that champions league qualifiers are fixed?

are you gonna sit there and tell me that the books dont know that a game is fixed before the game, but they receive the memo in the 30th minute?

are you going to sit there and tell me that books know that a game is fixed but stay exposed to loses by leaving the odds up?

are you going to tell me that players taking millions are going to fix a game for $600?


you were not not watching the ekranas - debrecen game, the book was, something happened at the 30th minute for the odds to drop, someone got a red card, someone got awarded a penalty, something other than what you are saying, which is basically that the trader mid game went 'jinxies, this game is fixed. I must lower the odds immediately'



its human nature to reach ridiculous conclusions without evidence just because they cant explain something, 'why are there trees? a god must have created them!' 'why did the odds suddenly drop? the game must be fixed'

[Romanov]

With the odds like that, either someone sharp pounded the bet or it is fixed or both. In either case, you should bet it

[pellumb341]

are you going to sit there and tell me that champions league qualifiers are fixed?

Have you ever heard about a team called Pobeda Prilep ?

It is a macedonian football team which is banned from Uefa for fixing match against Pyunik Yerevan ( Armenia)

you were not not watching the ekranas - debrecen game, the book was, something happened at the 30th minute for the odds to drop, someone got a red card, someone got awarded a penalty

Nothing of this happened. no red card , no penalty ,nothing nothing ... Are you brave enough to risk a large amount with odd 1.3 or 1.35 ? I think you are not .

[nyplayer33]

you also have info on a poland hockey game that u might be able to bet 200 dollars on and would never be tanked

[pellumb341]

are you gonna sit there and tell me that the books dont know that a game is fixed before the game, but they receive the memo in the 30th minute?

Do you want me to show you a screenshot where i have wagered over 2.5 @ 2.20 at BWIN ???

the odd dropped at 188bet ,because asians are the first who receive the information ... at the same time BWIN had no information. i was fast enough to place the bet ... later bwin decreased the odds too and after the first half ended , they removed the match.

If you think that there are no fixed matches , that's you problem.

Best regards mate !

[SportsMushroom]

Do you want me to show you a screenshot where i have wagered over 2.5 @ 2.20 at BWIN ???

the odd dropped at 188bet ,because asians are the first who receive the information ... at the same time BWIN had no information. i was fast enough to place the bet ... later bwin decreased the odds too and after the first half ended , they removed the match.

If you think that there are no fixed matches , that's you problem.

Best regards mate !

why would it be a problem for me? I dont care if the match is fixed or not

but if you can make assumption based on limited data then so can I


my data = a)you think that a player earning 500,000 a year would accept a 10,000 bribe b) you think the fixer would pay 10,000 to fix a game even though he can only bet $600 on it c) you think that books get a fax in the 30th minute of a game telling them that the fix is in d) you think that books dont take down the fixed game, they just leave it on the board so that anyone who is aware of the fix can pound them

my assumption = you are down a lot of money gambling

[pellumb341]

i don't care too mate .

i am just saying that this month i have seen a lot of ridiculous odds on friendly matches,and surprisingly they all went Over.

your assumption is wrong , i am up 7.2k EUR for 5 months.

anyways , best regards .

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

I am 99% sure this is a fail

[trytrytry]

the in-play odds were completely off for a 'normal' game.

At the 60 minute mark with the score at 1-1 the odds on over 3.5 goals were in the region of 1.54 (-186). The fair line in a normal game would have been in the region of +200.

I have no idea what info the OP did or did not have about this game but something was up.

that is amazing..r u sure those were in in game live prices at 1-1 heading into OT? what book has that tiny game in game and how much can you wager on it is it an exchange type or a book offering odds?

[trytrytry]

maybe it makes sense, the best odds you can find in a match are over and draw


why would you fix the game for a side at -120 odds when you can fix it for the draw and get +250, or fix for over 3.5 goals at +150


not saying it was fixed, just that people are idiots

u need to post more...dead spot on.

[DrIn$entive]

If one was paying bribes to players to fix a match, you can be sure he will be placing more than $600 in wagers. He will not only be betting himself but also through numerous beards. And its not only at sportsbooks where one can profit from this, but also through the numerous sports lotteries in numerous countries (not including the neighborhood bookies). 55 players were indicted on game fixing in the Korean Soccer League just this past June, 10 of them received lifetime bans. And more than a dozen in the Finnish league.

[FourLengthsClear]

that is amazing..r u sure those were in in game live prices at 1-1 heading into OT? what book has that tiny game in game and how much can you wager on it is it an exchange type or a book offering odds?

Yes, I am sure. Those were the odds at SBOBet (just about the biggest book there is for soccer) with 30 mins (approx) remaining in regular time.

[horja1]

If one was paying bribes to players to fix a match, you can be sure he will be placing more than $600 in wagers. He will not only be betting himself but also through numerous beards. And its not only at sportsbooks where one can profit from this, but also through the numerous sports lotteries in numerous countries (not including the neighborhood bookies). 55 players were indicted on game fixing in the Korean Soccer League just this past June, 10 of them received lifetime bans. And more than a dozen in the Finnish league.

sometimes you dont need to bribe the players, especially in friendly games ... just the referee/s ... 3 penalties = 3 goals today

[chinaski]

ive watched entire second half and seen those ridiculuos referee calls. 2nd penalty was 1 meter away from the penalty area. plus it was not a handball. that cluj player shot the ball and ball was just deflected from some jilina player's hand. turkish linesman created that penalty.
and if you believe theres no match fixing in friendly games because there are limitations then you must be naive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1yTSf5kwIw

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/new...a-match-fixing

ps: i took U4.5@1.38 and cashed it so if theres someone thinks i whine about it cause i lost money can be relax.

[pellumb341]

that's what i am saying.Friendlies are organized intentionally with purpose to fix them.This is a FACT !!!!!!

[SportsMushroom]

u need to post more...dead spot on.

[Bbr]

Did the bet win? so much trash in this thread

[horja1]

Did the bet win? so much trash in this thread

match ended 2-2

[Monte]

CFR Cluj - Zilina 1 o/u....odds from 2 to 1.9

I think this translates into : Total (o/u) bet selection 1 (the over is listed first, so over).
But what the hell do i know, i get sick alrdy when i see those fking decimal odds.

[BrianLaverty]

SportsMushroom is proving just how ignorant he is on the subject. I have heard about literally hundreds of match fixing in soccer... and this includes Champions League games... LOL at you not believing that Champions League Qualifiers could be fixed.. How oblivious are you? Read the book by Declan Hill when you get a chance... and stop being ignorant about topics you have no idea about.

[TonyDimy]

Paranoidal idiots Yes, everything is fixed, just shut up.

[MatI]

FYI, everyone, there will be a report coming out this week from FIFA, conducted by an organisation looking at corruption in Soccer. Match fixing definitely happens.

But if you follow this board you would think majority of games every day are fixed. This is far from the case IMO.

There was a very good story on BBC a few months ago, speaking to an investigator who looks at fixed events. The investigator said there was roughly 400 fixed soccer games every year.

[horja1]

I think this translates into : Total (o/u) bet selection 1 (the over is listed first, so over).
But what the hell do i know, i get sick alrdy when i see those fking decimal odds.

he tricked you .... if you check carefully the next posts after his posted play you'll see quotes of his original post (the one not edited) - he said 1 FT (Cluj to win final time) not 1 O/U.

(check posts #15 and #16 and see the difference)

[FourLengthsClear]

I think this translates into : Total (o/u) bet selection 1 (the over is listed first, so over).
But what the hell do i know, i get sick alrdy when i see those fking decimal odds.

He edited the post after the game was finished.
His initial pick was for CFR Cluj to win the game in regular time which was a loss.

[jjgold]

He is a fraud
Why do guys even read threads like this?

[MatI]

Why does SBR allow this shit to go on?

[SportsMushroom]

SportsMushroom is proving just how ignorant he is on the subject. I have heard about literally hundreds of match fixing in soccer... and this includes Champions League games... LOL at you not believing that Champions League Qualifiers could be fixed.. How oblivious are you? Read the book by Declan Hill when you get a chance... and stop being ignorant about topics you have no idea about.

yes and the guys who did it got caught, which is how you know that the games were fixed


every single cent that is bet is monitored by UEFA, in champions league and local leagues, all betting complanies have agreements in place, including betfair, if there are irregular betting patterns they are reported immediately

if you fix a game you will get caught when you try to get money down on it


and even if there are fixed games so what? there is 1 fixed game in 10,000? every idiot on here that loses a bet starts crying fix, if I start believing everything that is said on sbr then all sports games should really be hosted in hollywood

I may be ignorant, but people who attribute every insignificant irregularity in a game to a fix are lacking something in the intelligence department

[BrianLaverty]

Again.... you are showing your complete ignorance on the topic.

There is a significant more amounts that are bet in the underground Asian markets that aren't regulated and arent monitored. Just because they monitor the regulated European market doesn't mean much..... most of the fixers are from Asia and Singapore to be specific. It's a whole nother world out there and literally millions are switched hands daily that no watchgroup has a clue about.

1 in 10,000? Lmao. I don't know if you are dumb or in denial but I would say a very significant amount of soccer in eastern Europe and Asia are fixed.