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11-11-20 02:50 PM #8051
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11-12-20 10:35 AM #8052
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11-12-20 12:29 PM #8053
Not a chartist, but have a gut feeling we are headed lower into EOY. Put pretty tight stops on my holdings.
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11-12-20 01:34 PM #8054
Agreed...assuming that sports are being played
Originally Posted by Madison
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11-12-20 01:52 PM #8055
Well, thus my "longer term" caveat. I'm pecking away at dips and building a long term position. Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21
Agreed...assuming that sports are being played
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11-12-20 01:55 PM #8056
Take a look at BLNK and let me know what you think. Moved back up a bit lately but think again may be a nice longer term play?? Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21
Agreed...assuming that sports are being played
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11-12-20 02:41 PM #8057
Depends what you are in. I used to be in oil and n.g. But changed couple years ago was in hip sock. Ok profits and Roy kept talking tsla. Talked to cousin who took job in fla to work for tsla. He convinced me e.v was the play.Ides up 62 % on the year because of redistribution of stocks. Originally Posted by Madison
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11-12-20 03:05 PM #8058
Looks like it has a lot of hype behind it right now? I didn't research much just googled it and read some headlines. Not sure what to think, I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens going forward. Originally Posted by Madison
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11-12-20 03:06 PM #8059
I have a very diverse portfolio as I'm mostly preservation of capital. But yes many of my holdings are EV and 5G related. The one I'm a little confused about is the EV Lithium play which I'm in a little more than my comfort. I have done great with ALB and actually sold a bit as I was overweight. GL Originally Posted by chico2663
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11-12-20 03:09 PM #8060
Yeah, my DCA is in the 7's so I've got quite a bit of room. Trying to figure out who is going to provide charging stations for EV seems destined to succeed. Let us know if you come up with any other ideas. Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21
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11-12-20 03:14 PM #8061
I'd be super careful BLNK. Its market cap is $300 million and they did less than $4 million in sales in 9 months. There are subway's that do more sales than this guy. Originally Posted by Madison
Total revenue for the first nine months of 2020 grew 84% to $3.8 million, during Covid-19 economy; exceeds full year 2019 total revenue of $2.8 million
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11-12-20 03:31 PM #8062
Thanks for your input. Since I opened my mouth down 10% since earlier today. Originally Posted by RoyBacon
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11-12-20 04:00 PM #8063
Well, all the great companies go into the billions of market cap on just a song. So no one knows. Originally Posted by Madison
If their widget(whatever their product is) is to die for why is it only selling $6 million a year a couple of years into it? Maybe they are about to get a contract from tsla or nasa? Or maybe they are just a story that fades away? Don't know.
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11-12-20 04:00 PM #8064
Seems like BLNK has pretty strong support low 9's??
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11-12-20 04:03 PM #8065
Originally Posted by RoyBacon
Roy, admittedly not sure either. Just looking for EV charging buildout and they were the best I could find at the time. Other ideas??
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11-12-20 04:13 PM #8066
I hear ya, I'm always looking too. Going to be some winners in that area. One has a pretty good chart; TSLA LOL Originally Posted by Madison
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11-12-20 04:31 PM #8067
Charge point just bought switch back energy sbe to take control of this. They were supposed to ipo. I don’t know how it will play out.
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11-12-20 04:34 PM #8068
Didn’t amazon,nio and couple of other companies have bad numbers starting out? Originally Posted by RoyBacon
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11-12-20 04:59 PM #8069
That's what I said "all the great companies go into the billions of market cap on just a song." Originally Posted by chico2663
Of course for every TSLA there are a 100++ failures.
I would not expose more than 1% of my portfolio to small caps. That's more gambling than investing.
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11-12-20 05:27 PM #8070
Bet you wished you had nio,li or xpev Originally Posted by RoyBacon
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11-12-20 05:32 PM #8071
I had nio. Sold it for a loss. I try not to look at it. LOL Originally Posted by chico2663
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11-12-20 07:11 PM #8072
NIO reports earnings on Tues, November 17. 5 A.M. ET
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11-12-20 07:15 PM #8073
Bought 200 units at 2 bucks sold hundy at 21. Still watching it fly. Originally Posted by RoyBacon
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11-12-20 07:15 PM #8074
Have 2 more seps I am thinking of rolling but afraid luck would run out.
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11-12-20 08:04 PM #8075
Good for you. I've made a small fortune on TSLA but I totally fugged up NIO. I need to stay away from those. I need singles and not boom or busts stuff. Originally Posted by chico2663
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11-13-20 05:26 AM #8076
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11-13-20 01:20 PM #8077
Not that I'm much smarter now but I judged Amazon by their earnings and didn't realize capital buildout. Passed on it at $3 circa 1994? Originally Posted by chico2663
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11-13-20 01:23 PM #8078
I have a few Lithium speculative plays thinking TSLA will eventually step in and possibly buy out. I believe LTHM just extended their agreements with TSLA out another year. I've done awesome with them. Originally Posted by RoyBacon
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11-13-20 01:26 PM #8079
LOL, you have to be like a relief picture etc and not look back but forward. I'm net gain but could bore you all to death with my miscues. Originally Posted by RoyBacon
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11-13-20 01:28 PM #8080
Well, there won't be any earnings (right?), just expected future forecast. Originally Posted by Shafted69
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11-13-20 01:36 PM #8081
A $2 billion company that breaks even. It's book value is $4 and it trades at $14. Originally Posted by Madison
Having a really great day today!
Their margins are dangerously thin. Whatever their widget is there are not economies of scale. The more they sell the more they lose. $14 looks like a good price to sell.
Valuation
Industry Average & Percentile Methodology
LTHM Chemicals Average Industry Percentile Market Cap $1.93B $12.31B 61st P/E (Trailing Twelve Months) -- 213.80 -- P/E (5-Year Average) -- 41.05 -- PEG Ratio (5-Year Projected) -- 1.15 -- Enterprise Value $2.15B $62.33B 59th Price/Cash Flow (Most Recent Quarter) -84.57 20.59 4th Price/Cash Flow (TTM) 214.08 25.93 100th Price/Sales (Most Recent Quarter) 6.64 4.23 97th Price/Sales (TTM) 6.77 4.87 96th Price/Book 3.47
11/12/20204.65 74th Book Value 3.87
09/30/202036.36 34th
Growth
LTHM Chemicals Average Industry Percentile EPS Growth (Last Qrtr vs. Same Qrtr Prior Year) -- -5.78% -- EPS Growth (TTM vs. Prior TTM) -- -86.27% -- EPS Growth (Last 5 Years) +0.60% +1.26% 50th Projected EPS Growth (Next Year vs. This Year) -- +31.38% -- Forward EPS Long Term Growth (3-5 Yrs) +6.41% +7.65% 45th Revenue % Change (Last Qrtr vs. Same Qrtr Prior Year) -25.69% -3.64% 18th Revenue % Change (TTM) -33.83% -4.34% 5th Revenue Growth (Last 5 Years) +8.02% +2.97% 77th Book Value per Share Growth (Last 5 Years) -- +16.13% -- Free Cash Flow (TTM) $-179.10M $1.99B 3rd Cash Flow Growth Rate (Last 5 Years) +2.48% +2.30% 51st
Profit Margins
LTHM Chemicals Average Industry Percentile Gross Margin (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized)
16.67% 35.25% 15th Gross Margin (TTM)
27.99% 34.67% 42nd EBITD Margin (TTM) 11.81% 17.96% 39th Profit Margin (Most Recent Quarter) -16.25% 1.24% 22nd Operating Margin (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) -6.89% 9.72% 25th Operating Margin (TTM) 3.69% 8.72% 38th Pretax Margin (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) -21.07% 3.92% 21st Pretax Margin (TTM) -5.20% 3.11% 32nd
Returns
LTHM Chemicals Average Industry Percentile Return on Equity (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) -8.33% 9.47% 29th Return on Equity (TTM) -2.54% 2.96% 38th Return on Assets (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) -5.23% 3.59% 31st Return on Assets (TTM) -1.60% 2.93% 43rd Return on Investment (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) -5.84% 4.81% 28th Return on Investment (TTM) -1.82% 3.94% 40th
Debts
LTHM Chemicals Average Industry Percentile Long Term Debt/Equity (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) 42.08% 80.39% 35th Long Term Debt/Equity (TTM) 38.54% 86.63% 37th Total Debt/Assets (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) 26.62% 33.28% 41st Total Debt/Assets (TTM) 24.58% 32.10% 33rd Total Debt/Capital (Most Recent Quarter) 29.73% -- 37th Total Debt/Capital (TTM) 29.73% 44.35% 37th Total Debt/Equity (Most Recent Quarter, Annualized) 42.43% 104.74% 39th Total Debt/Equity (TTM) 38.90% 98.94% 35th Current Ratio (TTM) 2.89 1.63 71st Payout Ratio (TTM) -- 96.96% --
Operating Metrics
LTHM Chemicals Average Industry Percentile Income/Employee (TTM) $-17,625.00 $12,798.86 -- Revenue/Employee (TTM) $355,500.00 $535,560.00 30th Nomination(s):This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: homie1975
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11-13-20 02:32 PM #8082
Originally Posted by RoyBacon
Roy, I have zero technical skills so I do appreciate your input very much. What are you using to get these metrics?
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11-13-20 02:33 PM #8083
At some point fundamentals matter.
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11-13-20 02:41 PM #8084
Compustat Originally Posted by Madison
From running businesses forever I think the hardest thing to overcome is a thin profit margin.
It doesn't mean the stock won't go to $60. But it does tell you there is a problem with the secret sauce.
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11-13-20 02:48 PM #8085
That will be next fall when stimulus is really out of the question and reality hits. Originally Posted by Slurry Pumper
Congress might hit too by then, but they could be gridlocked which is probably a positive next fall.
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