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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    How about all the millions of white soldiers that gave America it's birth, defended its freedoms from England, and died in civil wars? Mostly white people and not blacks who fought and died in our past wars..

    Today America is America because of our past white ancestors. Now black activists are trying to erase history and calling everyone during those times racist basically. Taking knees and disrespecting the anthem for protests sake today also is a joke... These black activists today wouldn't even have a voice if it wasn't for our white ancestors that fought and died in past wars..

    America would either be a distorted England extension, maybe Germany today still ruled under a Nazi regime, or who knows what? Maybe even a dirty Mexico.. Even Spain ruled perhaps... No telling how history would have re-wrote itself..
    If you want to go back to history, where are the Native Americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb1984 View Post
    If you want to go back to history, where are the Native Americans?
    yea exactly

    I didn't own slaves and I didn't take over this land

    I didn't make fun of native Americas on Columbus day so why make fun of blacks on MLK day??

    end of discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb1984 View Post
    If you want to go back to history, where are the Native Americans?
    Indians got screwed for sure.. They just couldn't adapt to modern society and basically got slaughtered off.. Land was important and the Indians were living on it and taking up to much of it.. Many weren't civil and shot arrows and killed the white man when they trespassed .. That wasn't gonna stick, Indians weren't gonna last.. Is what it is...


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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Indians got screwed for sure.. They just couldn't adapt to modern society and basically got slaughtered off.. Land was important and the Indians were living on it and taking up to much of it.. Many weren't civil and shot arrows and killed the white man when they trespassed .. That wasn't gonna stick, Indians weren't gonna last.. Is what it is...


    The white man brought over disease that wiped them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    The white man brought over disease that wiped them out.
    that is mainly true

    well done dane

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin View Post
    I NEVER hear about the whites that gave their lives fighting to free the black slaves , NEVER !

    Fun fact: the American civil war was not fought to “free the slaves”

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    Fun fact: the American civil war was not fought to “free the slaves”
    well that's a judgment call that no one today actually knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    The white man brought over disease that wiped them out.
    Anyway you wanna spin it it was the white man that took out the Indians to take over the land.. America was once Indian land.

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    heated debate here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    well that's a judgment call that no one today actually knows
    Dude shut the hell up. It is well documented that the civil war was not fought to free the slaves at all. Jesus Christ read some history and stop watching Fox News

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    MLK was a piece of shit behind closed doors

    yet this country honors him

    and people want to tell me I can't do the things he did like beat his wife and shit

    fukkin hypocrite country

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Anyway you wanna spin it it was the white man that took out the Indians to take over the land.. America was once Indian land.
    And that's something to be proud of? Causing chaos among people just minding their own business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBusiness View Post
    And that's something to be proud of? Causing chaos among people just minding their own business?
    Did I say I was proud of that? I don't think I did.

    I actually said I think the Indians got screwed.. They do have the Indian reservations now and all the legal gambling casino's raking them in money these days.. America did try to make up for some of their wrong doings I guess...


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    ..... actually 90% of the Indians were taken out by the diseases the white man brought with them from Europe that they had not built up any immunity to.

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    A much, much higher percentage of the black population owned black slaves than whites in antebellum America

    African blacks captured and sold their own people into slavery

    Native Americans were fighting and slaughtering eachother over land long before we got here, we just won. Sometimes they hated their tribal enemies more than whites and sided with whites against them many times.

    This revisionist blame/guilt stuff is stupid

    Ole bigbusiness should say a prayer 3 times a day in thanks for his ancestors who survived the trip over here and the slavers who chose them

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    Yup ^^ No one wants to talk about that.. Ssshhhh!!!


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    MLK liked women, couldn't control himself in those regards.. Still was a good man that preached a very good message..

    MLK still get's my RESPK!!!

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    Dude luved fukkin

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    Quote Originally Posted by actiondan View Post
    Dude luved fukkin
    So did Evander Holyfield and Dwight Howard.. Both have a million kids out of wed lock today and paying the price in child support payments monthly.... It's a problem for many as they just don't like to pull out.. Don't think about the consequences of their actions 9 months later...

    http://www.complex.com/sports/2017/0...re-responsible

    Gold diggers and groupies hit the lotto when that happens.. Men aren't always to blame either.. Women can be very tricky and persuasive...


    Here is a list of pro athletes with a bunch of children with a bunch of different women.. Ooooops!!!

    http://cavemancircus.com/2016/05/24/...fferent-women/
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    How about all the millions of white soldiers that gave America it's birth, defended its freedoms from England, and died in civil wars? Mostly white people and not blacks who fought and died in our past wars..
    Today America is America because of our past white ancestors. Now black activists are trying to erase history and calling everyone during those times racist basically. Taking knees and disrespecting the anthem for protests sake today also is a joke... These black activists today wouldn't even have a voice if it wasn't for our white ancestors that fought and died in past wars..
    JIBBBY - you spew the most bullshit of anyone in this forum. Most of your posts are just wrong. Do you just say shit that pops into your head or do you really believe the shit you post? Then you love to hide behind your Christianity when all you do is post fake news. I keep telling you that you have problems with anything and anyone that isn't white. You need to repent if you truly believe in God and come to your senses.

    There was an average of 10 million soldiers in WW2 with a max of 16 million at one point. Nearly a million of them were black. Another half a million were Hispanic. Most minorities were mistreated while serving this country (do your damn research). Substandard food, housing, clothing, the like, yet they were proud to serve just like everyone else. White people weren't the only ones that fought and died so that you could post your racist bullshit today.

    America is America because white ancestors stole, raped and pillaged minorities. Every US building you see was built on the backs of slaves. And not just black but all minorities were abused, white ancestors did what the fukk they wanted, enslaved people paying them substandard wages and oppressed everyone that wasn't white. Read your history how white people stole beachfront property in SC from black people. How they stole beachfront property in California where you live from Chinese immigrants. How they put Asians in concentration camps like the Nazis you mentioned. Minorities had some of the wealthiest properties in this country and white people killed them and stole it from coast to coast. Speak to an Indian about your white ancestors in the US.

    Black activists wouldn't even have to be black activist if evil devils like your ancestors didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    JIBBBY - you spew the most bullshit of anyone in this forum. Most of your posts are just wrong. Do you just say shit that pops into your head or do you really believe the shit you post? Then you love to hide behind your Christianity when all you do is post fake news. I keep telling you that you have problems with anything and anyone that isn't white. You need to repent if you truly believe in God and come to your senses.

    There was an average of 10 million soldiers in WW2 with a max of 16 million at one point. Nearly a million of them were black. Another half a million were Hispanic. Most minorities were mistreated while serving this country (do your damn research). Substandard food, housing, clothing, the like, yet they were proud to serve just like everyone else. White people weren't the only ones that fought and died so that you could post your racist bullshit today.

    America is America because white ancestors stole, raped and pillaged minorities. Every US building you see was built on the backs of slaves. And not just black but all minorities were abused, white ancestors did what the fukk they wanted, enslaved people paying them substandard wages and oppressed everyone that wasn't white. Read your history how white people stole beachfront property in SC from black people. How they stole beachfront property in California where you live from Chinese immigrants. How they put Asians in concentration camps like the Nazis you mentioned. Minorities had some of the wealthiest properties in this country and white people killed them and stole it from coast to coast. Speak to an Indian about your white ancestors in the US.

    Black activists wouldn't even have to be black activist if evil devils like your ancestors didn't exist.
    Mac I like ya but you are such a hater.. I don't even know how to respond to this anti White BS you posted.. Time for whites to start sticking up for ourselves... We are the minority now pretty much and getting run over by shit that happened 100 years ago..

    It's MLK day so I'll show respect.. Have no problem with the blacks but enough race baiting.. It's getting old...


    Keeping it real - Trump maybe says Haiti is a shitt hole and out of that Trump is a racist and the worst human being on the planet in the media, the week before that Trump was senile and losing his mind, before that he's colluding with the Russians and will be surely impeached for that, before that Trump is unfit to have the nuclear codes and gonna start a nuclear war, etc.. It never stops.. FAKE NEWS!!!!..

    During all this time America is winning with Trump in office, economy and jobs winning, we are not at war, ISIS done, race rioting stopped in the streets,.. Etc...

    Tired of you Dems, Libs and media twisting crap.. It's getting old.. I just hope and pray most of America is picking up on this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin View Post
    I NEVER hear about the whites that gave their lives fighting to free the black slaves , NEVER !
    My God, the stupidity of this forum has no end? Have you ever heard the names of the free slaves? Hell no because we didn't have internet back then. But we all know slaves were freed and had help from white people. Maybe if you actually studied America's REAL history you would know some of the white people that were instrumental in helping tens of thousands of slaves to freedom. Have you ever heard of abolitionist? Study to show thyself approved.

    http://www.history.com/news/history-...round-railroad

    White men and woman were instrumental in the civil rights movement. Many gave their lives and lost their properties as they were abused and mistreated as well. You never heard of Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner?

    Did you know that 4 white people help create the NCAAP? Of course you didn't know because you never cared. Well there's your black history MLK moment. Why not at least research their names...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Mac I like ya but you are such a hater.. I don't even know how to respond to this anti White BS you posted.. Time for whites to start sticking up for ourselves... We are the minority now pretty much and getting run over by shit that happened 100 years ago..
    It's MLK day so I'll show respect.. Have no problem with the blacks but enough race baiting.. It's getting old...
    Keeping it real - Trump maybe says Haiti is a shitt hole and out of that Trump is a racist in the media, the week before that Trump was senile and losing his mind, before that he's colluding with the Russians and will be surely impeached for that, before that Trump is unfit to have the nuclear codes and gonna start a nuclear war, etc.. It never stops.. FAKE NEWS!!!!..
    During all this time America is winning with Trump in office, economy and jobs winning, we are not at war, ISIS done, race rioting stopped in the streets,.. Etc...
    Tired of you Dems, Libs and media twisting crap.. It's getting old.. I just hope and pray most of America is picking up on this...
    I've told you many times I'm neither Dem or Liberal and I don't twist a thing. I tell the truth. Why would I need to stick up for another man white or black? I stick up for truth and justice. We are not the minority but one day we might be. Thank God that other groups aren't as evil as us and won't treat us like we treat them. Just look at what you post and imagine if other minorities did the same to you? You don't see minorities creating a thread like this one to basically spit on a dead man. To call him vile names for no other reason but to be evil. You didn't know MLK but you believe him to be an adulterer why? Because someone else said so? Because you are judge and jury? You would never call Trump such names with even worst accusations? You say it's fake news but you'll believe the FBI that purposely tried to defame him. You have a hard on when it comes to blacks and Hispanics. You can't wait to put them down for some strange reason. It's not healthy. You don't even realize how much you hate them? You really need to go back and read what you post. You say you are a Christian. You will have to answer one day to a higher power. Every knee will bow and will confess for their wrongs. "Whatever you have done to the least of these, you have done to me".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I've told you many times I'm neither Dem or Liberal and I don't twist a thing. I tell the truth. Why would I need to stick up for another man white or black? I stick up for truth and justice. We are not the minority but one day we might be. Thank God that other groups aren't as evil as us and won't treat us like we treat them. Just look at what you post and imagine if other minorities did the same to you? You don't see minorities creating a thread like this one to basically spit on a dead man. To call him vile names for no other reason but to be evil. You didn't know MLK but you believe him to be an adulterer why? Because someone else said so? Because you are judge and jury? You would never call Trump such names with even worst accusations? You say it's fake news but you'll believe the FBI that purposely tried to defame him. You have a hard on when it comes to blacks and Hispanics. You can't wait to put them down for some strange reason. It's not healthy. You don't even realize how much you hate them? You really need to go back and read what you post. You say you are a Christian. You will have to answer one day to a higher power. Every knee will bow and will confess for their wrongs. "Whatever you have done to the least of these, you have done to me".
    A real champion of the people you are Mac!!!.. Carry on buddy and yes we are all Americans and just people living out our lives no matter what color we are here in America..

    Keep living in the past champ and feeling sorry for what our ancestors may have did is no way to think and only keeps hatred and racism alive.. There has been wrongs done in every race and religion in past history.. Nothing new you are teaching me.

    It's all about today and the future... The past is the past.. Let the guilt and hate go.. You and I weren't responsible for those wrong deeds done back in history... We don't owe anyone anything today for those past wrongs. I know I don't.

    Completely new set of people on this planet every 100 years.. Think about that...

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    Hey Mac4lyfe, I noticed you mentioned rosh hashana where you went to school. Are you ethnically Jewish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    A real champion of the people you are Mac!!!.. Carry on buddy and yes we are all Americans and just people living out our lives no matter what color we are here in America..
    Keep living in the past champ and feeling sorry for what our ancestors may have did is no way to think and only keeps hatred and racism alive.. There has been wrongs done in every race and religion in past history.. Nothing new you are teaching me.
    It's all about today and the future... The past is the past.. Let the guilt and hate go.. You and I weren't responsible for those wrong deeds done back in history... We don't owe anyone anything today for those past wrongs. I know I don't.
    Completely new set of people on this planet every 100 years.. Think about that...
    I'm not living in the past. I'm living in today. You disparaged the man TODAY, not 50 years ago. You disparaged blacks and Hispanics today, not 50 years ago. I'm calling you out on your wrongdoings TODAY. Not your ancestors. I have zero guilt, I owe no man and I have zero hate but I'm telling you that you should read your posts and ask yourself why all the hate you have for them? I read this forum for entertainment but every few days, you go on a black/Hispanic tirade on how they are ruining your life? Sometimes it's sick and deranged. I expect JJ to do so but not you. I don't have the time or energy to bump some of your post. It's not my job anyway. You say your a Christian. Ask yourself if you would read some of your post to Jesus? We all have issues but your views on black and Hispanic people are most of the time wrong and definitely not healthy. And I know you above most people here want to do the right thing which is why I respond.

    I would say the same thing if someone was disrespecting JFK or Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    Hey Mac4lyfe, I noticed you mentioned rosh hashana where you went to school. Are you ethnically Jewish?
    No but I grew up in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I'm not living in the past. I'm living in today. You disparaged the man TODAY, not 50 years ago. You disparaged blacks and Hispanics today, not 50 years ago. I'm calling you out on your wrongdoings TODAY. Not your ancestors. I have zero guilt, I owe no man and I have zero hate but I'm telling you that you should read your posts and ask yourself why all the hate you have for them? I read this forum for entertainment but every few days, you go on a black/Hispanic tirade on how they are ruining your life? Sometimes it's sick and deranged. I expect JJ to do so but not you. I don't have the time or energy to bump some of your post. It's not my job anyway. You say your a Christian. Ask yourself if you would read some of your post to Jesus? We all have issues but your views on black and Hispanic people are most of the time wrong and definitely not healthy. And I know you above most people here want to do the right thing which is why I respond.

    I would say the same thing if someone was disrespecting JFK or Reagan.
    I don't have hate for anyone.. You are reading my posts wrong Mac..

    Let me explain what you misread as hate coming from me. I only got love in my heart.. I am a champion for justice though and don't give a crap what color or religion you are..

    - I bash illegal Mexican immigrants for sneaking in and breaking the law while other legal immigrants paid, waited and did it the right way.. So it's not fair to them..

    - I bash blacks sometimes because they pull the race card, get comfortable on welfare, lazy and commit the most violent crimes in society today.. I bash them because they abandon their children and can care less about their futures..

    - I bash whites that are meth heads, pill pushers and trailer trash that only ruin peoples lives by doing what they do as well...


    Hey but I'm not perfect either so who am I to judge.. I just wanna try and make the world a better place for everyone to live in.. I'm just one person though.. That's where I come from.. I get frustrated at times and vent.. I am guilty of that... ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I don't have hate for anyone.. You are reading my posts wrong Mac..

    Let me explain what you misread as hate coming from me. I only got love in my heart.. I am a champion for justice though and don't give a crap what color or religion you are..

    - I bash illegal Mexican immigrants for sneaking in and breaking the law while other legal immigrants paid, waited and did it the right way.. So it's not fair to them..

    - I bash blacks sometimes because they pull the race card, get comfortable on welfare, lazy and commit the most violent crimes in society today.. I bash them because they abandon their children and can care less about their futures..

    - I bash whites that are meth heads and trailer trash and only ruin peoples lives by doing what they do as well...


    Hey but I'm not perfect either so who am I to judge.. I just wanna try and make the world a better place for everyone to live in.. I'm just one person though.. That's where I come from.. I get frustrated at times and vent.. I am guilty of that... ...
    I most likely have it wrong but at times I cringe with some of your posts. I'm sure a lot of my post are cringe worthy as well. I certainly don't mean to be captain goodie two shoes. It's all good.
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