[rkelly110]

Hi guys, I see I wasn't left out of the conversation. Thanks for the inclusion.

[wikkidinsane]

Wow a red state seat wow

[Salmon Steak]

Wow a red state seat wow

The importance was not a red state but the win % for controlling congress in 2018. This is the real issue. That is why the democratic party threw millions of dollars at winning these seats. Bad blow. Odds going down for Dems.

[Sam Odom]

DNC is floating the Idea of running Bill Cosby for Prez in 2020

[brooks85]

Hi guys, I see I wasn't left out of the conversation. Thanks for the inclusion.

I didn't call you the new acoochy for no reason! lol

[Thor4140]

Let's face it Thor the Democratic Party is in absolute shambles. They have turned into a laughing stock. What is there message? Can you tell me? The only message they have had since the September has been Donald trump is evil and racist. Now he's elected and it's resist! He's sexist racist! He hates gays! He will destroy the planet! Let's impeach him! Maxine waters and pelosi...and a socialist (Bernie) and a women who claimed to be Native American is the face of your party! The democrats are failing and won't win shit tell they drop this impeach and trump collided with Russia shit and move on. It was said today no evidence points to Russia not changing the election results. Sorry time to be democrat. They moved so far left trying to pander votes the middle class don't even relate anymore.

I' am a Registered independent. I don't let these two parties put me in a box and tell me how to vote. That is why i vote for both parties unlike most of you who will never vote for a democrat no matter who it is since you are to ignorant and flat out clueless.

[Thor4140]

^^^^Bush Jr racked up 5.8 trillion onto our National Debt and then Obama racked up 7.9 trillion more during his Presidency. Both should be ashamed and sucked! These are the facts and exact numbers below.....

Obama did the worst damage to our national debt then any other President in US history.. The worst thing about Obama and the spending is we didn't even fix our healthcare system, roads, bridges, borders, public schooling, etc when he left office . OBAMA SUCKED!!!!

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Barack Obama: Added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

• FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
• FY 2015 - $327 billion.
• FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
• FY 2013 - $672 billion.
• FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
• FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
• FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
• FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

• FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. (Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act).
• FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
• FY 2007 - $501 billion.
• FY 2006 - $574 billion.
• FY 2005 - $554 billion.
• FY 2004 - $596 billion.
• FY 2003 - $555 billion.
• FY 2002 - $421 billion.

Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32 percent increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget, FY 1993.

• FY 2001 - $133 billion.
• FY 2000 - $18 billion.
• FY 1999 - $130 billion.
• FY 1998 - $113 billion.
• FY 1997 - $188 billion.
• FY 1996 - $251 billion.
• FY 1995 - $281 billion.
• FY 1994 - $281 billion.

George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54 percent increase from the $2.8 trillion debt at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.

• FY 1993 - $347 billion.
• FY 1992 - $399 billion.
• FY 1991 - $432 billion.
• FY 1990 - $376 billion.

Dude please Bush was handed a budget surplus Obama was handed a catastrophe. U cant be this naive and think they both started off at zero. If Obama didn't spend out of Bush's disaster this country would be buried. Also most of Obama spending was those shit wars bush put on the credit card. Bailing out banks was handed to Obama. Stop it already for fuks sake.

[DwightShrute]

Dude please Bush was handed a budget surplus Obama was handed a catastrophe. U cant be this naive and think they both started off at zero. If Obama didn't spend out of Bush's disaster this country would be buried. Also most of Obama spending was those shit wars bush put on the credit card. Bailing out banks was handed to Obama. Stop it already for fuks sake.

[JIBBBY]

Dude please Bush was handed a budget surplus Obama was handed a catastrophe. U cant be this naive and think they both started off at zero. If Obama didn't spend out of Bush's disaster this country would be buried. Also most of Obama spending was those shit wars bush put on the credit card. Bailing out banks was handed to Obama. Stop it already for fuks sake.

Ok I read ya Thor now let me show you what I see and keep it real -

I could understand the spending in the first year with Obama maybe even 2 years to bail out the banks and our economy but if you look at the numbers year by year Obama kept spending the same and putting our Nation further in debt without a regard.. NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!!!!

[jt315]

Apparently the bad weather might have only kept Democrats from voting .

Ralphie has been unhinged since since election night.


Maddow: Did Bad Weather Have "Partisan Implications" In Georgia Special Election ?


Steve, let me ask you one last question on this. If there was a turnout effect from the bad weather today in the district, does that have any partisan implications that you could foresee in terms of what was expected for same day, election day voting rather than the early vote?"

[JIBBBY]

Trump just had an epic hour long rally live in Iowa..

So glad he is our President and not HIllary.. Dude is getting it done!!

[Sam Odom]

Trump just had an epic hour long rally live in Iowa..

He knows his strength is the American People

Where did Obama speak as president? ... Universities & Colleges -- his strength = wild-eyed kids with no life experience

[guitarjosh]

Dude please Bush was handed a budget surplus Obama was handed a catastrophe. U cant be this naive and think they both started off at zero. If Obama didn't spend out of Bush's disaster this country would be buried. Also most of Obama spending was those shit wars bush put on the credit card. Bailing out banks was handed to Obama. Stop it already for fuks sake.

Bush wasn't handed a surplus and Obama had the most proactive Fed in history. If O had the interest rates of pretty much any other president, he would have more than doubled the debt.

[Thor4140]

Bush wasn't handed a surplus and Obama had the most proactive Fed in history. If O had the interest rates of pretty much any other president, he would have more than doubled the debt.

Yes he was handed a budget surplus u retard. Didn't Fox News tell u this? If O had a speck of help from republican who put getting power in front of helping the country he would have ended up being a great president. Filibusters at historical records. You shitbags are just to ignorant to know facts. Nobody is gonna do shit if u are gonna block every move a guy makes. Fox News keeps calling the Democrats obstructionist. How do they do this with a straight face and especially how do they get u idiots to buy into it?

[guitarjosh]

Yes he was handed a budget surplus u retard. Didn't Fox News tell u this? If O had a speck of help from republican who put getting power in front of helping the country he would have ended up being a great president. Filibusters at historical records. You shitbags are just to ignorant to know facts. Nobody is gonna do shit if u are gonna block every move a guy makes. Fox News keeps calling the Democrats obstructionist. How do they do this with a straight face and especially how do they get u idiots to buy into it?

He wasn't handed a surplus at all you stupid son of a bitch. There was a projected surplus over 10 years that included no recessions and 4% growth, but that was never going to happen. I guess you've been watching too much MSNBC. O had more help from the Fed than any president in history, and all he could do is get one of the slowest recoveries of all time. All O and the democrats wanted to do was raise taxes and spend, despite the fact that doesn't work over the long haul.

[rkelly110]

Dude please Bush was handed a budget surplus Obama was handed a catastrophe. U cant be this naive and think they both started off at zero. If Obama didn't spend out of Bush's disaster this country would be buried. Also most of Obama spending was those shit wars bush put on the credit card. Bailing out banks was handed to Obama. Stop it already for fuks sake.

[rkelly110]

[stevenash]

DNC is floating the Idea of running Bill Cosby for Prez in 2020

With a female running mate.

Miss Trial

[stevenash]

Yes he was handed a budget surplus u retard. Didn't Fox News tell u this? If O had a speck of help from republican who put getting power in front of helping the country he would have ended up being a great president. Filibusters at historical records. You shitbags are just to ignorant to know facts. Nobody is gonna do shit if u are gonna block every move a guy makes. Fox News keeps calling the Democrats obstructionist. How do they do this with a straight face and especially how do they get u idiots to buy into it?

Obama had full control of the House, full control of freaking everything his first two years.
What did he do with those first two years?

He could have his way then.

[JIBBBY]

He knows his strength is the American People

Where did Obama speak as president? ... Universities & Colleges -- his strength = wild-eyed kids with no life experience

Yep, Trump filled a huge arena and Trump was a super star again.. Rally events are his strength for sure.. He comes to life..

He speaks well to the American people every time.. Hit's home issues for the working class.. I love it!!! Crowd was loving it as well..

Trump calling out the fake news was classic..

[ByeShea]

Yes he was handed a budget surplus u retard. Didn't Fox News tell u this? If O had a speck of help from republican who put getting power in front of helping the country he would have ended up being a great president. Filibusters at historical records. You shitbags are just to ignorant to know facts. Nobody is gonna do shit if u are gonna block every move a guy makes. Fox News keeps calling the Democrats obstructionist. How do they do this with a straight face and especially how do they get u idiots to buy into it?

I'm worried you're gonna shoot up a softball game.

[DwightShrute]

I'm worried you're gonna shoot up a softball game.

[chico2663]

He wasn't handed a surplus at all you stupid son of a bitch. There was a projected surplus over 10 years that included no recessions and 4% growth, but that was never going to happen. I guess you've been watching too much MSNBC. O had more help from the Fed than any president in history, and all he could do is get one of the slowest recoveries of all time. All O and the democrats wanted to do was raise taxes and spend, despite the fact that doesn't work over the long haul.

Yes josh he was. Kasich bragged about it during his run against trump. Sorry it wasn't on faux

[chico2663]

Obama had full control of the House, full control of freaking everything his first two years.
What did he do with those first two years?

He could have his way then.

Steve he never had the 60 to get anything passed. The republican from minnesota contested his loss to al franken and by the time they finally announced it kennedy had died and a republican won the run off. But thanks for showing your lack of knowledge

[guitarjosh]

Yes josh he was. Kasich bragged about it during his run against trump. Sorry it wasn't on faux

No he wasn't. There was a projected surplus, not an actual one. Washington Post even gave Kasich 2 pinocchios over that claim. The economy was in recession by March of 2001, and any surplus would have vanished due to that.

[chico2663]

He wasn't handed a surplus at all you stupid son of a bitch. There was a projected surplus over 10 years that included no recessions and 4% growth, but that was never going to happen. I guess you've been watching too much MSNBC. O had more help from the Fed than any president in history, and all he could do is get one of the slowest recoveries of all time. All O and the democrats wanted to do was raise taxes and spend, despite the fact that doesn't work over the long haul.

The "premise" of the debt ceiling vote, Hoyer said, "was we have this debt because of President (Barack) Obama's policies. That's simply not true, and the world knows it's not true, and the Republicans know it's not true. We went from a $5.6 trillion surplus that George Bush inherited to over ... $11-plus trillion debt when George (W.) Bush left office. So to say it is Obama's debt and that the debt limit needs to be extended because of Obama is simply not true."

A reader asked us to check Hoyer’s claim that the United States "went from a $5.6 trillion surplus that George Bush inherited to over ... $11-plus-trillion debt when George Bush left office."

Here’s the way we initially looked at it. We turned to a historical table published annually by the Office of Management and Budget. The table reports that during fiscal year 2001 -- which included much of Bush’s first year in office, and which was based on a budget assembled during the term of his Democratic predecessor, Bill Clinton -- there was a surplus of $128 billion. So Hoyer was right that there was a surplus, but it was only 2 percent of the amount Hoyer indicated it was.

[chico2663]

No he wasn't. There was a projected surplus, not an actual one. Washington Post even gave Kasich 2 pinocchios over that claim. The economy was in recession by March of 2001, and any surplus would have vanished due to that.

google it josh. just because you seen it on fox doesn't make it true. Kasich, and joe scarborogh both talk about it and they are republicans who were in office when clinton was president.

[khicks26]

The "premise" of the debt ceiling vote, Hoyer said, "was we have this debt because of President (Barack) Obama's policies. That's simply not true, and the world knows it's not true, and the Republicans know it's not true. We went from a $5.6 trillion surplus that George Bush inherited to over ... $11-plus trillion debt when George (W.) Bush left office. So to say it is Obama's debt and that the debt limit needs to be extended because of Obama is simply not true."

A reader asked us to check Hoyer’s claim that the United States "went from a $5.6 trillion surplus that George Bush inherited to over ... $11-plus-trillion debt when George Bush left office."

Here’s the way we initially looked at it. We turned to a historical table published annually by the Office of Management and Budget. The table reports that during fiscal year 2001 -- which included much of Bush’s first year in office, and which was based on a budget assembled during the term of his Democratic predecessor, Bill Clinton -- there was a surplus of $128 billion. So Hoyer was right that there was a surplus, but it was only 2 percent of the amount Hoyer indicated it was.

They say that 75% of the debt today can be attributed to both Bush presidencies.

[brooks85]

They say that 75% of the debt today can be attributed to both Bush presidencies.

lol

[guitarjosh]

google it josh. just because you seen it on fox doesn't make it true. Kasich, and joe scarborogh both talk about it and they are republicans who were in office when clinton was president.

I did google it, I also looked at the Wash Post, and they said that Kasich's claim was at best a half truth, because it was a projected surplus.

[chico2663]

They say that 75% of the debt today can be attributed to both Bush presidencies.

I like poppa bush

[khicks26]

lol

Though I think its higher. SBR says that 75% of the BS post come from brooks85.

[JIBBBY]

They say that 75% of the debt today can be attributed to both Bush presidencies.

The facts say different...


Barack Obama: Added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

• FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
• FY 2015 - $327 billion.
• FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
• FY 2013 - $672 billion.
• FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
• FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
• FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
• FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

[khicks26]

I like poppa bush

I think most of that goes to Jr. Papa Bush was OK. Guy had some balls. Flew plans off aircraft carries in WWII.

In my book he's alright.

[khicks26]

The facts say different...


Barack Obama: Added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

• FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
• FY 2015 - $327 billion.
• FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
• FY 2013 - $672 billion.
• FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
• FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
• FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
• FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

Once you get in debt the interest adds up quick. Plus you have to spend to get out of the hole. Another 8 years of Bush that number would be 4x 11 trillion.