Originally Posted by
Mr KLC
Brainwash - make (someone) adopt radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible pressure.
Distrust - doubt the honesty or reliability of; regard with suspicion.
Look at both of those terms, and think deeply about which one is more truthful in my case. Not one time have I said that I'm not for cleaner energy. If there is a way to make it work where it is more affordable for Johnny Regular Guy, then I'm more for it. The two problems I have with your arguments are this.
#1 - There is nothing for me to be brainwashed about. A matter of fact, if I were brainwashed, I would just simply accept what these guys are saying by face value because they and the government all claim them to be reliable scientists. I have seen too many instances in my 47 years of existence that these guys might be able to come up with "facts", but their long term predictions are totally off base. The 47 years I have been here are a small window of the thousands, or even millions, of years the Earth has been in existence depending on what your belief system thinks. In that small window, I have seen scientific opinions change multiple times about what we are doing to the Earth, and what will happen. It's like Dick Morris. That guy couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat when it comes to predicting what will happen in elections. That's why you don't see the guy on TV hardly any more because his conclusions suck. These climate scientists conclusions have ranked with his over the decades. Why would I want to just blindly believe them when they have to change their theories approximately every 10 years because the last one crashed and burned?
#2 - I'm assuming that you weren't even alive, or not around too long in the 70's. If you were, I apologize in advance. Nonetheless, I know what the hell I saw when I was growing up. If I had plenty of time, I could probably find hundreds of more articles from the 70's to add to that list I provided from just 1 or 2 websites. Not saying you are, but it makes you look like the brainwashed one. You said there were no articles. I provided one. That wasn't enough. I provided several more plus an episode from a respected TV show that revealed the hysteria that was promoted for that time period. You then said that doesn't prove anything. If I provided hundreds of more articles, I guarantee you that wouldn't be enough, or you would probably try to find a way to dispute the legitimacy of that proof. Heck, last night after talking to Mrs. KLC, I remember how we would have pollution assemblies in grade school, and they would talk about the future cooling as factual. This happened, my friend. Don't be so emotional about this subject that you can just throw away any proof through rebuttal that shows differential from your core beliefs. I used to vote Republican right down the line when I was younger. I always believed that the R's were the good guys, and the D's were evil. I never researched the candidates. I thought that just because Bush 41 was Reagan's VP that he HAD to be a good president. I voted for him twice. I voted for Dole. I voted for Bush 43 twice. If I had known then what I know now, I would have voted for someone else in the Republican primary, or probably just not shown up at all for the general elections. I'd been warned for years that all the R's were not as pure as my guy, Ronald Reagan, but I kept blindly voting R. The facts were presented, but I foolishly turned the other way. After getting burned several times, I finally figured out that corruption does not discriminate just because of the letter by the name.
I'm not saying we should not look into cleaner energy. I'd be an idiot if I wasn't for something that could improve the health of not only our planet, but of us who are stewards of the Earth. My problems are these. I do not buy in to these scare tactics that these "experts" love to throw out there. If you can't be consistent in your theories, stop making Dick Morris predictions. Part of the reason that people do not believe this info is for that very reason alone. "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Fool me 4-5 times, an I'm just a complete dumbass.
The government should be out of this. $19 trillion in debt shows how well they handle these things. Before they spend money on research like this, they need to take care of the debt we have already. The bigger problem I have though is anything they touch can be tarnished. How many politicians do we send to Congress with the hopes that they will be the one that changes things, no matter what side you are on, but yet we continue to see approval ratings in the teens, or less than that? If people we see in commercials, and town hall meetings can be corrupted once they get to Washington, then yes, scientists we HAVE NEVER SEEN can be turned by the allure of a financial kickback.
Again, I'm all for cleaner energy. It makes sense, whether you believe the future predictions or not. My main thing is that it has to be affordable for Johnny Regular Guy. There has to be a balance of belief and affordability if this transition is going to take place. The majority of people are going to care less where their electricity is coming from if they don't see a difference in their monthly bills.
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