[Glitch]

ron paul zombies- i know it seems really nice that theres a guy speaking to us like people instead of like we're the other side of the political machine. i know its nice that theres a guy who says he will let you do whatever you want. seems really cool on the surface for sure.

once you start to think about cause and effect, the future, the dangers, the necessary regulations that will be gone etc etc etc. (paraphrase) "do whatever you want and cut Everything to save more money while recklessly ending everything expensive ." this is his plan; i know it sounds awesome but it is really quite shitty and dangerous.

as long as this guy doesnt get elected- i will be able to sleep just fine.

i wish mitt romney was obama's vice president. this would once again be the best country in the world by a large margin.


(newts ok. i trust him about as far as i can throw him)

[milwaukee mike]

why are they "ron paul zombies"?
ron paul followers are among the most intelligent and enlightened people in the country.

yeah i think of the cause and effect of having each family's share of the u.s. debt be $600,000!

can't believe that some here like glitch and sbr john put the peace sign in their message yet endorse war-lovers like newt, obama, mitt, etc.

i guess you can't have peace unless you blow up every other nation in the world

[PackerBacker]

I will support SBR John and vote for Newt when its Wisconsin's turn

[Glitch]

they are zombies because they did what i did at first. when i first heard Dr. Paul speak, i was like "wow. this is a guy who really cares about america and freedom. he has plans and hes not afraid to share his plans and speak candidly about them even in the face of opposition" they are zombies because they are under his mind control. his psycho-linguistics and unreliably/dangerously promising you the deregulated right to _______ (fill in the blank with whatever it is that you want to do.) it is a trap with a stick and a box and a piece of candy under it i wonder sometimes if he even has something devious planned for when he gets all this "liberty."

it makes sense that you support him if you use statements like that "...war lovers..." there is so much grey area that you are not recognizing (in regards to this subject and many others). Ron Paul consistently makes the same and similar mistakes with his "plans" it he doesnt think about what will happen next (other than financially).

we should briing a lot of troops home from a lot of places- but we should not be so foolish and shortsighted about it. if you think all these iraqis and afgans are going to forget that we just murdered thousands of their sons, brothers and fathers- then you are sadly mistaking sir. i see that we need a plan and a strategic withdraw. that doesnt mean i love war.

[Glitch]

[jarvol]

Vote for Ron Paul, your Libertarian or independent candidates or else you are just voting for more the offensive war-mongering, debt riddling, over regulating, over taxing, irresponsibile government of the last several decades.

[crustyme]

You want Obama for another 4 years...kiss our country good bye!

do you even know what the hell you're talking about?

over 2 million jobs created in private sector since the stimulus compared to 4 million jobs lost in bush's final year in office.

dow up over 100% since march 2009.

gnp up every quarter since 2009-2q.

gm again #1 in the world in auto sales after the bailout. earned over $10 billion last 2 years. first profits since 2004.

killed the worst terrorist in history, bin laden. bush allowed him to escape tora bora so he can get re-elected on fears.

ended a $4 trillion war after cokehead started it and didnt know how to finish it.

killed one of the worst dictators in the world, gaddafi.

saved the failing auto industry with "cash 4 clunkers" after it had had its worst sales in 27 years in 2008.

unemployment lowest since 2008.

gave 50 million uninsured americans healthcare. according to the highly respected congressional budget office (cbo), obamacare will reduce the deficit by $143 billion over 10 years. repealing it would increase deficit by $230 billion.

and so on.

one thing to hate a guy cause of the color of his skin but another thing to be a clueless nitwit.

[slatter]

Shocking that a bunch of unstable message board posters are in support of the Tea Party. Jesus.

[FreeFall]

Ron Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFLd_...&feature=share


Crusty there are quite a few biggots here just be aware of it.

[Dirty Sanchez]

"killed the worst terrorist in history, bin laden. bush allowed him to escape tora bora so he can get re-elected on fears"

He did squat...Seals and the military along with a CIA assist...he was shaking in an office with a bunch of other stooges hoping they could walk outside and collect the glory in the end...who you kidding?

[d2bets]

The right wing nutbags have been pushing the 'Obama is the worst and things are awful' mantra since before he was inaugurated. Of course it hasn't been easy and all roses. He inherited a fukking mess. He hasn't done enough, but the criticism of him that he's turned the country into socialism, etc. is such a bunch of nonsense.

[d2bets]

"killed the worst terrorist in history, bin laden. bush allowed him to escape tora bora so he can get re-elected on fears"

He did squat...Seals and the military along with a CIA assist...he was shaking in an office with a bunch of other stooges hoping they could walk outside and collect the glory in the end...who you kidding?

Same thing for every President going to war or directing military action.

[Smoke]

Obama

[crustyme]

"killed the worst terrorist in history, bin laden. bush allowed him to escape tora bora so he can get re-elected on fears"

He did squat...Seals and the military along with a CIA assist...he was shaking in an office with a bunch of other stooges hoping they could walk outside and collect the glory in the end...who you kidding?

who gave the orders?

and whose neck wouldve been on the line had bin laden not been there and they killed a bunch of innocent civilians?

[RudyRuetigger]

Ron Paul




Crusty there are quite a few biggots here just be aware of it.

[Dirty Sanchez]

who gave the orders?

and whose neck wouldve been on the line had bin laden not been there and they killed a bunch of innocent civilians?

Yeah..whatever...a great military tactician and leader he is

[No coincidences]

Don't be old mannin Chuck Norris AKA Walker Texas Ranger.
Besides, he could kick your ass....easily.

He could without a doubt.

Doesn't mean he's not an old white man.

[SBR_John]

SB(NPI)R- Early returns indicate a strong early showing for Newt Gingrich in the South Carolina primary following the recent endorsements of Rick Perry, Chuck Norris and SBR Forum.com. Polling data on Wednesday had the former Speaker trailing Mitt Romney by 30% to 23%.

We will win South Carolina. Time to focus on Florida now.

[sportsfanatic]

if romney wins this then the rest of the candidates should stop wasting their time and drop out

[PhillyFlyers]

I can't vote for a warmongering sexual deviant like Newt.

I'd vote for Obama before I'd ever cast a vote for him.

[YouMama]

I dont think its a given Newt would beat Obama in the debates either ... Newt is a good con-artist, but so is Obama, Newt out smarts the dumb a55 news media who hold the debates, but I dont see doing that to the Obama Machine ... I dont like one single person in this Goddamn Race, Ron Paul is probably who I would end up voting for 3rd party, Holding my nose and choking back Vomit ... I want the Clintion Years Back, when American Life didnt suck

[Dirty Sanchez]

Newt is a gift to Obama...because there's no chance he's elected President.....Republicans should be embarrassed with the field they have running....nothing but a bunch of re-treads

[RudyRuetigger]

I will be embarrassed to be an American if Newt is elected, and yes I am from Georgia and a republican.

[MadTiger]

Is this for real, or a bad Friday night joke?

QFT

[Carseller4]

I dont think its a given Newt would beat Obama in the debates either ... Newt is a good con-artist, but so is Obama, Newt out smarts the dumb a55 news media who hold the debates, but I dont see doing that to the Obama Machine ... I dont like one single person in this Goddamn Race, Ron Paul is probably who I would end up voting for 3rd party, Holding my nose and choking back Vomit ... I want the Clintion Years Back, when American Life didnt suck

You know it was Gingrich that made the Clinton years possible.

Clinton was an abysmal failure his first 2 years. He was so bad, that for the first time in 40 years Republicans took control of the House of Representatives and elected Newt Gingrich as Speaker of the House. Things started getting much better and Clinton took advantage of that and was re-elected.

If Gingrich did that great of a job then, as Speaker, just imagine what he could do as President.

[DwightShrute]

I can't vote for a warmongering sexual deviant like Newt.

I'd vote for Obama before I'd ever cast a vote for him.

that makes no sense at all.

You like Paul and his message. Fine. So do I. While Newt may not be your ideal candidate, he shares many key points as Paul. Obama shares almost none.

[freeagent]

[MadTiger]

No, I don't want an open relationship with you, Newt.

[muldoon]

You know it was Gingrich that made the Clinton years possible.

So by your logic, Tip O'Neill would have made a great president and should get most of the credit for any economic success during the Reagan era?

[Carseller4]

So by your logic, Tip O'Neill would have made a great president and should get most of the credit for any economic success during the Reagan era?

Except for the fact that O'Neill fought tooth and nail against the Reagan tax cuts that led to the success.

Reagan cut taxes, revenues quadrupled, and O'Neill and the Democrats gladly spent it all plus much more.

[crustyme]

[muldoon]

Except for the fact that O'Neill fought tooth and nail against the Reagan tax cuts that led to the success.

Reagan cut taxes, revenues quadrupled, and O'Neill and the Democrats gladly spent it all plus much more.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...increases.html
Started by cutting taxes...then reversed course


.....Still, his administration reversed course after the first tax-cut bill became law, when budget projections showed the deficit poised to reach levels not seen since the World War II era.
“We were scared out of our wits because that seemed to be unimaginable,” David Stockman, Reagan’s first budget director, said in an interview.


Reagan’s biggest deficit came in 1983 when it reached 6 percent of the gross domestic product -- about two-thirds the size of the shortfalls the government has run in each of the past three years.

The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982, then criticized as the largest tax increase in history, scaled back corporate tax breaks, increased unemployment-insurance levies, and raised excise taxes on cigarettes, among other changes.

“The goal is simple and just: to see to it that everyone pays his fair share,” Reagan said in August 1982. He predicted the tax increase would help the economy because it would reduce the deficit, which he said would lead to lower interest rates.


Reality vs. Myth

[PhillyFlyers]

that makes no sense at all.

You like Paul and his message. Fine. So do I. While Newt may not be your ideal candidate, he shares many key points as Paul. Obama shares almost none.

What doesn't make sense? The part where I could never vote for a war monger or the part where I could never vote for a sexual deviant?

As far Paul and Newt being alike, no they are not. Not even close.

Paul would audit the federal reserve and in due time, eliminate it. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would eliminate personal income taxes and eliminate the IRS. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would end all wars and bring all troops home immediately. Newt would extend the wars indefinitely.

Paul would repeal the NDAA act, the patriot act, and sopa. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would return states rights and restore the Constitution. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would put us back on the gold standard and restore sound money principles. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would repeal Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank. Newt wouldn't.

There's only one choice in this election.

ronpaul2012.com

[King Mayan]

Neo cons buried.

[DwightShrute]

What doesn't make sense? The part where I could never vote for a war monger or the part where I could never vote for a sexual deviant?

As far Paul and Newt being alike, no they are not. Not even close.

Paul would audit the federal reserve and in due time, eliminate it. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would eliminate personal income taxes and eliminate the IRS. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would end all wars and bring all troops home immediately. Newt would extend the wars indefinitely.

Paul would repeal the NDAA act, the patriot act, and sopa. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would return states rights and restore the Constitution. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would put us back on the gold standard and restore sound money principles. Newt wouldn't.

Paul would repeal Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank. Newt wouldn't.

There's only one choice in this election.

ronpaul2012.com

and you would rather vote for Obama because ...?