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    Saturdays weather forecast for the city by the bay

    0% chance of rain
    66 degrees
    sunny

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    there will be some candlestick wind and wet grass too

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    10 point dip with SF, balti, pats Over?

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    5dimes is down to -175

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    If I had to go with a side, I would go with NO, but I am staying away from this game.

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    san fran can def win this

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    I tend to like home teams having extra time to rest. However.....

    The one thing that worries me about this game is that it seems very similar to GB heading to ATL in the divisional round last year. ATL was only a marginal favorite and got torched. The fact that SF is more than a field goal dog has my attention. Something just doesn't look right.

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    60 of the public is on the Stains I like the SF def here I think its a fg game I'll take the 3.5
    hopefully roxxyfish and Brock mortal the Stains

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    It's just not a defense first league

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    Pinny opened Saints -155 at 8:00am ET Sunday morning. Anyone saying otherwise is looking at a source that did not capture the opener. It did jump to -165,. -175 and then -180 at 8:07am ET, but the sharp quick early birds caught the worm. Now sitting at -190 and the spread is t -3.5 -102 (was at +odds). In fact, I am now seeing solid -3.5 -110 across the board where there were a bunch of +100 and -105 yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    There's no way it was -155.

    The ML came after the spread.

    I'm assuming you like the Saints, hopefully it's as good as your LSU prediction.
    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    yea i have no idea where he got that -155..its total BS
    Guys, you've both been here long enough to know that I never BS about anything when it comes to gambling. k13, that's OK I had a nice CFB season. As for this game, I have just a lean on Saints, I am far more likely to play some props and/or derivatives than the straight line.

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    please show me where u got this -155 ml opener LT

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    what the hell is going on with this line..all over the board and its tuesday...my book opened at -3.5 -130, then -3 -125, then -3 -135 now it just moved again

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    please show me where u got this -155 ml opener LT
    Sports Insights

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngambler View Post
    what the hell is going on with this line..all over the board and its tuesday...my book opened at -3.5 -130, then -3 -125, then -3 -135 now it just moved again
    -3 -135 and -3.5 -110 are basically equal and Bookmaker has been going back and forth between the two.

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    can u post a screenshot of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    can u post a screenshot of it?
    Well I pay for it so I don't know if I could paste it without getting in trouble unless the history is available for free before game day. If it is, then you can try accessing it yourself. If you cannot, then I will paste from the archive day after the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Well I pay for it so I don't know if I could paste it without getting in trouble unless the history is available for free before game day. If it is, then you can try accessing it yourself. If you cannot, then I will paste from the archive day after the game.
    no worries..thanks

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    dont understand why sbr cant have accurate openers..guess cause its free...

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    Well SBR is accurate from the time that it posted, it just missed the first hour.

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    It could be worse, Vegasinsider is showing the opener at 12:30am on 1/9, a full 16 hours after real opening

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    yea i hear you but an opener should be an opener not what time a site finally puts it up

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    saints will expose niners secondary

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    Quote Originally Posted by millflavor View Post
    saints will expose niners secondary
    vick, eli, big ben all exposed their secondary and they still lost...yards in the air are over exaggerated...points against are what matters and they gave up 14.8 on the season

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    SF ML +170 at betislands right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    It could be worse, Vegasinsider is showing the opener at 12:30am on 1/9, a full 16 hours after real opening
    Vegasinsider bases their opening lines on the first book that posts the line.

    The first book to post a line on this game was Cal Neva in Reno. They posted it on Jan 8th at 10:20am

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    One thing the saints are great at and I mean great. Is exposing their opponents linebackers. A few years back they absolutely manipulated and killed backers. The saints love to control the middle of the field and have the weapons to do so. Colston and Graham are two of Brees' favorite targets and do most of the damage in the middle.
    The 49ers have the leagues best linebacking squad imho. Their defensive line has also played great this year. That entire front seven is a problem. I believe they will control the middle of field. As for the secondary , well their are far worse than 49ers. Is it their " weak point " , sure. Let's not get carried away though. It's a very solid unit.
    I'm leaning taking the points and the 49ers here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post
    Vegasinsider bases their opening lines on the first book that posts the line.

    The first book to post a line on this game was Cal Neva in Reno. They posted it on Jan 8th at 10:20am
    I am talking strictly about Pinny ML. They show Pinny ML opener at Jan 9th at 12:30am

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post
    Vegasinsider bases their opening lines on the first book that posts the line.

    The first book to post a line on this game was Cal Neva in Reno. They posted it on Jan 8th at 10:20am
    In fact, VI is showing all Pinny openers across the board (ATS, Total, ML) as 1/9 at 12:30am when Pinny actually opened ATS and Total on SATURDAY 1/7 (ATS at 10:53pm, Total at 11:07pm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    can u post a screenshot of it?
    screenshot - if u can see it
    Attached Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    vick, eli, big ben all exposed their secondary and they still lost...yards in the air are over exaggerated...points against are what matters and they gave up 14.8 on the season
    vick eli ben are not brees
    niners haven't gone against an offense this high-powered

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    Quote Originally Posted by millflavor View Post
    niners haven't gone against an offense this high-powered
    Saints haven't gone against a defense this high-powered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimneyfish View Post
    Saints haven't gone against a defense this high-powered.
    they threw 40 up on a good houston d

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    Quote Originally Posted by millflavor View Post
    they threw 40 up on a good houston d
    Then you're contradicting your own point. If Vick, Eli, and Ben are not Brees, then Houston is not San Francisco. If we're going to consider what Brees did to a good defense like Houston then we should be able to consider what the Niners' D did to other good quarterbacks as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimneyfish View Post
    Then you're contradicting your own point. If Vick, Eli, and Ben are not Brees, then Houston is not San Francisco. If we're going to consider what Brees did to a good defense like Houston then we should be able to consider what the Niners' D did to other good quarterbacks as well.
    Houston's pass defense is better than 49ers pass defense, San Fran's strength is stopping the run, which isn't as important vs. Saints.

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