[No coincidences]

Is now the Republican frontrunner? Seriously?

This guy was left for dead a few months ago. He's morally bankrupt, politically corrupt -- just a horrible candidate. He'd been thrown aside accordingly after he was exposed for having numerous affairs, being in bed with big business and Freddie Mac themselves, etc. Now, because everyone else is so bad, this is all that's left? Really? After four years of trying to come up with someone?

[ProfaneReality]

Welcome to the process of elimination.. they will eliminate him as well in time

[Onefreedm1nd]

Didn't he cheat on his wife while she was in cancer treatment?

[ProfaneReality]

He was a consultant for Freddie Mac and received almost $2 million from them in fees... you know, that company every Republican blames for the downfall of our economy.

[Lockitup1x]

He's not in bed with the wrong people anymore than Clinton ever was (politically or otherwise).

[Carseller4]

Not as sad as our current President.

[CarpeDime]

Didn't he cheat on his wife while she was in cancer treatment?

yes but he apologized for that

He was a consultant for Freddie Mac and received almost $2 million from them in fees... you know, that company every Republican blames for the downfall of our economy.

ha already explained he was just an "historian" for them. what's wrong with being an historian?

[No coincidences]

He's not in bed with the wrong people anymore than Clinton ever was (politically or otherwise).

Who said anything about Clinton?

And that makes it OK?

[dfberger23]

Obama will win easily, all of the GOP candidates are a joke.

[Emily_Haines]

The former front runner was found to be a serial rapists

He is ahead only by default because the others are so bad.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Republicans don't have anyone to trot out. Romney will get the nomination. Right now they are just spending money to keep things lively.

[shari91]

I really hope people see the sarcasm in CarpeDime's posts - not just in this thread - but in every political one. Probably one of the funniest guys on the forum.

Back to the top though, yeah NoCoin this is kind of making it easy for me to choose in the next election. I can't with any good conscience vote for that man and every other possibility is no better. I was really looking forward to finally hearing some substantive stuff and to hopefully feel a pull to one side. Not going to happen now.

[numismatist]

Roooooooooooooooooooon paul.

[iifold]

The whole process is a joke...

Obama wasn't even born here, told you he killed Osama so you'd stop asking about it...

He is a communist, has never run a business, yet everyone votes for him because he is "not white" and then these same people that vote for him end up in tents complaining about being broke

I dont even worry about it anymore because I know dumb people have way more children than smart people so we are ultimately doomed...

I blame everything on the Ship and Airplane... They will prove to one day be the main reason humans failed...

[Carseller4]

Roooooooooooooooooooon paul.

You Ron Paul people are hilarious.

Guy is 76 years old.

[FourLengthsClear]

Does it matter?

The system is broken and there is no real structural change on the horizon whether Obama wins or if it is one of the Republican's. The Fed will just keep printing money, the hole will get deeper and in four years time it will be rinse and repeat.

[Jonah]

We haven't voted yet, have we?

Media is pushing him to the front...They know they can destroy him later on.

Guy is smart tho.

[Jonah]

yes but he apologized for that




ha already explained he was just an "historian" for them. what's wrong with being an historian?

You sly Dog Carpe. I know what you are doing and I don't like it... kind of funny tho. However love the truth a little more, would ya? You are spreading falsehoods.

[Lockitup1x]

Who said anything about Clinton?

And that makes it OK?

Has he made sad and pathetic choices?... Yes. My point is that so have other effective politicians / presidents. Who do you like out of the Republican field? Gingrich is experienced, smart and savvy. Maybe not the best candidate out there, but right now this country needs an effective president more than someone that has a clean moral slate.

[ttwarrior1]

i agree, i like romney myself, gingrich has never made a mistake and is another george bush clone.

[No coincidences]

Has he made sad and pathetic choices?... Yes. My point is that so have other effective politicians / presidents. Who do you like out of the Republican field? Gingrich is experienced, smart and savvy. Maybe not the best candidate out there, but right now this country needs an effective president more than someone that has a clean moral slate.

Newt would be "effective" alright -- he'd be a big business whore just like all of our Presidents since Carter.

[Lockitup1x]

Newt would be "effective" alright -- he'd be a big business whore just like all of our Presidents since Carter.

Unfortunately, that seems to be the nature of the beast.

[wtf]

I really hope people see the sarcasm in CarpeDime's posts - not just in this thread - but in every political one. Probably one of the funniest guys on the forum.

Back to the top though, yeah NoCoin this is kind of making it easy for me to choose in the next election. I can't with any good conscience vote for that man and every other possibility is no better. I was really looking forward to finally hearing some substantive stuff and to hopefully feel a pull to one side. Not going to happen now.

loshak is not serious?

thanks for the translation-dork

[Onefreedm1nd]

I'm writing in Arnold

[Emily_Haines]

Obama will win easily, all of the GOP candidates are a joke.

Ron Paul could beat Obama if he could get the nomination, but the GOP is to stupid to use their best candidate and would rather go for the tough talking war monger that will rape the public to benefit the elite.

[DwightShrute]

[DwightShrute]

Newt Gingrich and the Ridiculous "Ethics Violations" Penalty February 16, 1999 - Read the update on this situation! Newt Gingrich Cleared! Now How About a Refund?
Below is what I wrote in 1997 after Newt Gingrich was fined $300,000.

House Speaker Newt Gingrich, saying he is ``a person of limited means,'' is paying the $300,000 ethics penalty with a loan from 1996 Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole. And the Democrats are whining about it. Why?
First of all, what exactly were the charges against Newt? David Bonior brought 75 charges against Newt - and 74 of them were found to have NO MERIT WHATSOEVER. The last charge, whether Newt funded his college class "Renewing American Civilization" properly, was too complicated a tax issue for the committee to investigate on its own, so they brought in an outside tax expert to investigate. Two charges arose out of this investigation.
The first 'charge' from the ethics committee is that he "may have" violated tax law by using tax-deductible contributions from nonprofit organizations to teach an allegedly partisan college course.
The lectures never mentioned the words "Republicans" or "Democrats," and one entire session was spent praising FDR. Is that "partisan?" Not only has a former commissioner of the IRS has come forward and said that no tax laws were violated, but an Ethics Committee lawyer even gave approval for the class before Newt started it.
The second 'charge' from the committee is that, in the course of the investigation, Newt provided false information to the committee. Do you know what this "false information" is
Newt testified that the above contributions were in fact made by those organizations to "Renewing American Civilization." He filed papers that stated the very same thing. This is never a fact that anyone was trying to hide. But one paper filed with the committee stated that those groups did not make the contributions. So is this a big deal? Is this "lying to Congress?"
What's funny is that the Ethics Committee itself approved the course Newt taught, the same course that started this whole "ethics violation" farce. Newt wasn't even paid for the course. In any case, I am not getting into all the details of the whole ethics violation mess, and the incredible double standard shown, since that would warrant a separate web site. I just find it odd that the Ethics Committee turned around and slammed Newt with a $300,000 penalty for something that they had approved! In addition, if a reprimand was enough "punishment" for Barney Frank, who was charged by the same committee with fixing 30 parking tickets, and writing a misleading probation letter on behalf of child pornographer, cocaine dealer, male prostitute and lover Steven Gobie, why is Newt getting slammed with such a harsher penalty?
The only reason that Rep. David Bonior and other Democrats filed 75 ethics charges against Speaker Gingrich in the first place is because Newt filed and forced former Democrat Speaker Jim Wright to resign in 1988. The whole ethics violation farce was about nothing but revenge. Bonior and the Dems. wanted revenge for Jim Wright and for losing the House in 1994 and 1996.

Don't the Democrats have anything better to do? In any case, I digress. Despite the unfairness of the whole ethics situation, (I can't believe people are worried about Newt's ethics when Bill Clinton is running the country) Newt bears full responsibility for these "ethics violations." He could have legally used campaign funds or a defense trust fund to pay the ethics penalty or sued the lawyers who he said misled him into what he calls a technical ethics violation. He has the legal right to do any of those things. But did he? No. Gingrich said he and his wife decided he had ``a moral obligation to pay the $300,000 out of personal funds.'' So, he took out an 8 year loan at prime plus 1.5 - which is about 10% interest. By taking out this type of loan from Dole, not only would he be relieving the taxpayers of paying for the penalty fine, but Newt would then not be beholden to any bank, lending institute, etc. Thus, he wouldn't have to worry about conflicts every time a banking issue came before him.

By the way, can anyone imagine Bill Clinton paying out of his own pocket because he felt a "moral obligation?" This sounds pretty reasonable, right? Not according to some people. You should hear the moaning groaning and whining from the Left! It's really embarrassing. They say that Dole is a lobbyist for the tobacco companies so Newt is now getting the money from tobacco companies for favors in the ongoing battle to stop legislation against tobacco firms. (talk about twisted rationale - how long does it take the Dems to come up with these things?) Newt can't win!
It's pretty obvious that the Democrats are upset and whining because Newt wasn't beaten, and has come back in spite of the campaign to discredit him and remove him from power.
Remember, Newt COULD have legally taken the money out of campaign funds or legal defense funds, like our wonderful president did for his sexual harassment suit! But Newt, having moral character, is taking this obscene and ridiculous amount of money out of personal funds. Yet, out of apparent desperation, the Left is still whining, and is scrambling to try and tie Republicans with the tobacco industry. But let us not forget who was selling and MAKING MONEY off the tobacco industry not that many years ago - Al Gore!
It also seems strange that Democrats blasted Newt for taking Dole's loan, and are now calling Dole a tobacco lobbyist - - Yes, Dole works for a law firm which represents tobacco companies. However, just sit back and think a minute. If we are to judge Dole by the law firms' other clients, clients that Dole is not associated with, then it's only fair that we judge all people by their lawyer's other clients. I wonder how many people would be happy about that? Do YOU know all the clients your lawyer represents??
In any case, let's look at who is representing the tobacco company in the law firm. The representers are Ann Richards (former governor of Texas) and George Mitchell (former Senator) - both DEMOCRATS!!!
The Democrats just always need something to whine about, don't they?



http://www.gargaro.com/newtmoney.html

[MC PICKS]

The next president of the united states.

[Boscoe]

he'll fade like bachmann, perry, and cain. then huntsman's turn?

[baskets]

Is now the Republican frontrunner? Seriously? This guy was left for dead a few months ago. He's morally bankrupt, politically corrupt -- just a horrible candidate. He'd been thrown aside accordingly after he was exposed for having numerous affairs, being in bed with big business and Freddie Mac themselves, etc. Now, because everyone else is so bad, this is all that's left? Really? After four years of trying to come up with someone?

are you new to big-time politics? your description describes every single politician active in the upper rung.

you must of been one of those people dumb enough to smoke the Obama pipe

[FlyNByU]

yea i know it would be horrible to have someone as president who actually would have a fckn clue about what hes doin.........because the guy in there now really has no clue...better yet he has a clue about what he would like to do. what he would like to do is exactly what he is doing. breaking the country finacially. the only way to institute a socialist system is to first get rid of capitalism. completely.it kills me the way they hammer the rich.

what you have to realise is that socialist views at thier core are great. i mean no one goes hungry, everyone has a home, everyone has the same health care, and son, and so on. the problem with this is actually one of religion. what i mean by this is that most progressive liberals dont believe in God. without a belief in God they believe that everyone is good inside and capable of good. but scripture teaches that man is sinful. all men are sinful in nature. this is the problem with a socialist model because in that model there a very very few people in control. so when you have a very select few in control of basically everything the sinful nature tends to show. hence the appearence of dictators. they start out trying to achieve heaven on earth and end up creating hell on earth. this is why i say its actually religous in nature. if you understand that man is sinful then you realise a perfect world could never be created by man. so instead of allowing the government own everything and give as they see fit you allow citizens to create compition and keep others in check. not perfect but nothing is. its still a hell of alot better than the alternative.

[alling]

Gary Johnson

[antifoil]

i know what is sadder and more pathetic than this

the eagles.

[d2bets]

How do we know that he wouldn't resign before inauguration? He quits faster than Palin.

[FlyNByU]

no doubt....the eagles may be sadder....lmao..those fcks cost me 165 tonight.