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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro View Post
    onner, he is looking for way out.. that's it.. he knows i would have schooled him.. and trust me, i would have..
    Then do it. Less talk, more action. According to the rules YOU agreed to, your play on Edmonton is +181. In this instance, it doesn't matter... Edmonton +181 and +183 are both losing tickets. But to avoid this crap in the future, SBR Odds is the official source. Why? Because those are the terms you agreed to.

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    Last time I checked, this was SBR Forum. LOL

    Listen, we agree to use SBR Odds, so have have to take the bad with the good. If SBR had +185 at 7:05, there never would have been an issue.

    And I DO like SBR Odds, as it is the best FREE service that I know of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Last time I checked, this was SBR Forum. LOL

    Listen, we agree to use SBR Odds, so have have to take the bad with the good. If SBR had +185 at 7:05, there never would have been an issue.

    And I DO like SBR Odds, as it is the best FREE service that I know of.
    Well SBR Odds is 1 for 1 on not having the fukking line movement when Nicky bet it.

    Nicky is the best at getting good lines, this is going to happen again and again if we use SBR Odds. If he gets +183 and shitty SBR Odds says +181, he should not be penalized for hitting a good number, after all you want this contest to reward line shoppers, as you said earlier....or maybe you are having second thoughts since you cant beat Nicky on getting good #s

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    meanwhile, Rangers and Oilers are in OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewhat View Post
    Well SBR Odds is 1 for 1 on not having the fukking line movement when Nicky bet it.

    Nicky is the best at getting good lines, this is going to happen again and again if we use SBR Odds. If he gets +183 and shitty SBR Odds says +181, he should not be penalized for hitting a good number, after all you want this contest to reward line shoppers, as you said earlier....or maybe you are having second thoughts since you cant beat Nicky on getting good #s
    onner, you're on fire with these great posts of yours tonight. i have nver seen this sharp side of you before.. you are one sharp guy and everythng you say tonight is making sense.. this WILL happen many many times again.. cause of SBR Odds..

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    Oilers win the shootout

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    Meanwhile, I quietly went 2-0 when nobody was looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Meanwhile, I quietly went 2-0 when nobody was looking.
    We are still trying to sort out if this contest is still happening or not.

    No one knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Meanwhile, I quietly went 2-0 when nobody was looking.
    yeah, but i went 1-0 up 1.83 units and should have been up 2.83 units cause i swear to GOD i had WASH too, but this contest fukked me, but you dont see me asking people to look at me cause i won today, like you are doing now..

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    Nicky, sweety, honey, take a deep breath. Put down the hockey stick. All you will do is scare that nice little old lady who lives nearby. Now you know I love you best when you get all riled up, but now I am concerned about the possibility of a stroke or something. It will all be ok, Nicky dear. Nina promises and you know I never go back on my word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro View Post
    yeah, but i went 1-0 up 1.83 units and should have been up 2.83 units cause i swear to GOD i had WASH too, but this contest fukked me, but you dont see me asking people to look at me cause i won today, like you are doing now..
    All you had to do was post earlier. Getting your real life bets in should be more important than any contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjt721 View Post
    Then do it. Less talk, more action. According to the rules YOU agreed to, your play on Edmonton is +181. In this instance, it doesn't matter... Edmonton +181 and +183 are both losing tickets. But to avoid this crap in the future, SBR Odds is the official source. Why? Because those are the terms you agreed to.
    both winning tickets, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    both winning tickets, actually.
    You're correct. At the time of that post, I was thinking the contest was using regulation only lines.

    Unfortunately, doesn't look like it will matter either way, as this contest appears to be doomed.

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    Wow, i dont have an opinion either way, but thanks for an interesting read

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    This thread is absurd. You guys both agreed to the rules, which were that SBR Odds would be used to verify. If you have concerns about the validity of SBR Odds, you should agree upon a different source in the future or should have voiced your concerns before. Regardless of any future agreed upon changes by the two parties, the bet should be at +181 because that is what it is according to the mutually agreed upon rules. All the constant ranting and whining by Nicky about rules that he agreed to is both laughable and ridiculous.

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    donny, i was waiting for you to come in and take LT's side.. of course.. and i will await your girlfriend Monkeyfocker to do same thing.. it's obvious you would say this.. so me getting +203 tomrrow and SBR closing it at +191 is fair huh? LOL

    i'd lay my bottom dollar that had this been reversed and LT was in my position, you, monkey, rjt and the gang would be saying it should be +183 cause sbr didn't update it properly.. lol.

    hey donny, you're a punk.. you and your little clan there.. you know i'm right here.. SBR Odds do NOT update properly, so i should suffer everyday, huh? LOL

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    why don't you guys implement official review. that is when screen shots are submitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro View Post
    yeah, but i went 1-0 up 1.83 units and should have been up 2.83 units cause i swear to GOD i had WASH too, but this contest fukked me, but you dont see me asking people to look at me cause i won today, like you are doing now..
    So, you want credit for bets thought about but didn't post but ended up winning. You should set up a contest with DacBietViet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
    This thread is absurd. You guys both agreed to the rules, which were that SBR Odds would be used to verify. If you have concerns about the validity of SBR Odds, you should agree upon a different source in the future or should have voiced your concerns before. Regardless of any future agreed upon changes by the two parties, the bet should be at +181 because that is what it is according to the mutually agreed upon rules. All the constant ranting and whining by Nicky about rules that he agreed to is both laughable and ridiculous.
    I really don't even understand nickys point. I don't know where he lives, but he should take some law classes. This is clearly unarguable and thus the reason behind rules. I'm blown away by some of the members here, but I guess that is what you get when you deal with gamblers.

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    donny, i was waiting for you to come in and take LT's side.. of course.. and i will await your girlfriend Monkeyfocker to do same thing.. it's obvious you would say this.. so me getting +203 tomrrow and SBR closing it at +191 is fair huh? LOL

    i'd lay my bottom dollar that had this been reversed and LT was in my position, you, monkey, rjt and the gang would be saying it should be +183 cause sbr didn't update it properly.. lol.

    hey donny, you're a punk.. you and your little clan there.. you know i'm right here.. SBR Odds do NOT update properly, so i should suffer everyday, huh? LOL
    If that were the case I'd be defending you. Of course, you refusing to have a calm, rational conversation doesn't help the matter any. YOU AGREED TO THE RULES. It's not LT's fault that there may be flaws with SBR Odds since YOU agreed to the rules posted. As I said, you should have voiced your concerns beforehand if you thought this was such an issue. If you don't feel comfortable using SBR Odds in the future, find a new agreed upon source/method with LT. But for this play, you have to use the mutually agreed upon rules at the time of the play.

    You seem like a very angry person and for that, I am sorry for you. But you need to act like a reasonable adult and go by the rules that YOU agreed to.

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    I really don't even understand nickys point. I don't know where he lives, but he should take some law classes. This is clearly unarguable and thus the reason behind rules. I'm blown away by some of the members here, but I guess that is what you get when you deal with gamblers.
    Agreed. I would be on Nicky's side if the roles were reversed here but he has an amazing ability to almost always be on the wrong side of an argument.

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    calling this thing off is probably the smartest thing to do. no good can come out of this contest.

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    This went from its highest peak to rock bottom in 3-5 hours.

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    how could this contest go 500 plays ahahahah

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    Guys I was really excited to follow this contest and see what you guys had in you but it really shows you both are all talk by NOT coming to a compromise on this.

    The AGREED upon rules was $2k, and you use SBR Odds. Now Nicky is asking for $4 or $5k and using whatever line HE bets. And LT isn't offering any suggestions to make it work, so this shows that you both don't want the contest to work because you'll have to actually put your money where your mouth is for once!

    Nicky hasnt even posted the screen shot to even TRY and prove that he got it at +183, but even if he did it is irrelevant because SBR Odds did not have it at +183. Why can't both of you agree to a different lines service??? You're just going to throw in the towel over this????

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    I have no vested side here.

    But just one question. If they both agreed beforehand on using SBR Odds, why is this an issue? U-S-E- the lines you agreed on.

    If they both agreed SBR Odds are going to be used....whether they suck or not is irrelevant.......if that is what is agreed upon, then anyone trying to change the rules would be wrong.

    It isn't rocket science. It is a pissing contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinBlank View Post
    I have no vested side here.

    But just one question. If they both agreed beforehand on using SBR Odds, why is this an issue? U-S-E- the lines you agreed on.

    If they both agreed SBR Odds are going to be used....whether they suck or not is irrelevant.......if that is what is agreed upon, then anyone trying to change the rules would be wrong.

    It isn't rocket science. It is a pissing contest.
    They didn't agree to "use" SBR Odds. Rule 5 seems to point out that Pinny, BetJam and 5 Dimes lines are the ones used. The verification process involves SBR Odds.

    I feel like I'm back in my first year of law school taking a contracts exam... Analysis to follow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boner_18 View Post
    They didn't agree to "use" sbrodds. Rule 5 seems to point out that Pinny, BetJam and 5 Dimes lines are the ones used. The verification process involves sbrodds.

    amen, BONER...

    and i know LT knows this too and so does his clan.

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    Boner,

    My bad. I did not read the rules of this contest, I read this thread.

    The obvious answer here seems to be a simple one. Define what lines are to be used. End of debate.

    When that issue is solved, the contest can move forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinBlank View Post
    Boner,

    My bad. I did not read the rules of this contest, I read this thread.

    The obvious answer here seems to be a simple one. Define what lines are to be used. End of debate.

    When that issue is solved, the contest can move forward.
    It doesn't matter. The sportsbook LINEs were used but sbrodds were used for VERIFICATION

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    The guy is sharp. Where do I sign up?

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    hahaha...nice bump.
    sbrodds for a contest and haggling about 2c, why did you ever get into this with a tout like LT Nicky?

    You should have known better, touts are scumbags, with or without pictures of little kids in their avatar.
    But sbrodds for vertification is priceless. It's a very nice free line service, but oh boy whoever uses it for a contest has to be on crack.

    And to the morons who say: those are the rules!
    You should go fukk yourselves, if i see a rule is plain wrong (and the other resources clearly prove there was a +183), you would rather hang on to a wrong rule instead of making a new one day 1?
    Unreal.

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    While its up the top - I have respect for both Nicky and LT as posters here at SBR. I couldn't really care less what they do away from the site. However it seems to me like in this instance LT was angle shooting. Just as he knows that his best advantage comes with betting into early lines, he knew that Nicky thought his strength was betting as late as possible. The fact that SBR time stamped the +183 at 7:06 and Nicky posted at 7:05 with that line from pinnacle and it was supported as the closer from LVinsider confirms that Nicky is being honest and betting into a line that was available when he posted.

    Everyone knows that SBRodds is just a guide and often times the line has moved by minutes before SBR updates their odds. The simplest solution to making this contest happen would have been for screenshots to be posted on any bet where a poster challenged it. Not relying off a stale odds service that eventually updated to the correct price anyway.

    Sad that this contest fell apart on that dispute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro View Post
    i am not the sharp one who doesn't even have an acct at matchbook..


    and if you ever want to know how much i bet per game, it is probably what you bet on a given day in volume, times 8... and that's not saying much cause you probably bet 20 bucks a game but steal 600k from poor gamblers with your tout service

    you're a fukkin weasel..
























































































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