[tonywayne]

Yesterday's situation:

Tampa was the moneyline favorite at -115, which means to bet Ottawa +1.5
Ottawa was the puckline favorite at -1.5, which means ... ???

Both your rules (post #1 or post #2447) and your daily posts DO NOT address this...

Would it REALLY be so hard to add some clarifying dialogue to the rules and/or to the daily post:

"The moneyline determines favorite/underdog positioning. If the puckline does not match, look for the alternate puckline to get +1.5 on the team we're betting on. Many alternate pucklines require larger bets to win the same amount as the standard puckline, so remember to adjust your bet if necessary."

Right now, every time you refer someone to the rules, it doesn't clarify this situation. Your rules are incomplete without addressing a moneyline/puckline discrepancy.

Be HELPFUL, not pompous...

[Wallco99]

Yesterday's situation:

Tampa was the moneyline favorite at -115, which means to bet Ottawa +1.5
Ottawa was the puckline favorite at -1.5, which means ... ???

Both your rules (post #1 or post #2447) and your daily posts DO NOT address this...

Would it REALLY be so hard to add some clarifying dialogue to the rules and/or to the daily post:

"The moneyline determines favorite/underdog positioning. If the puckline does not match, look for the alternate puckline to get +1.5 on the team we're betting on. Many alternate pucklines require larger bets to win the same amount as the standard puckline, so remember to adjust your bet if necessary."

Right now, every time you refer someone to the rules, it doesn't clarify this situation. Your rules are incomplete without addressing a moneyline/puckline discrepancy.

Be HELPFUL, not pompous...

Really??????? Are people that stupid? I don't think so. And by the way, that wasn't the question either one of them asked, had it been, the answer might have been different. But as far as the question that was asked, the proper place to find the answer was given. Thanks for your concern, your helpful tips may be considered in the future, but for now give it a rest. And as I said yesterday, enough with the "what I HAVE to do's."

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 199-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +66.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-20.20 units)

(3/21/14):
#199 Colorado (+1½) v1 (B) - Loss
#208 Nashville (+1½) v2 (A) - Win


v1 Fades
(A) 99-44
(B) 33-10
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 11-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/22/14):
#199 Boston @ Phoenix (+1½) v1 (C) (9:05 pm EST)
#204 Dallas (M/L) @ Ottawa v2 (B) (3:05 pm EST)
#205 St. Louis (M/L) @ Philadelphia v1 (B) (1:05 pm EST)
#209 Phoenix @ Boston (M/L) v1 (A) (9:05 pm EST)



Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[tonywayne]

Really??????? Are people that stupid? I don't think so. And by the way, that wasn't the question either one of them asked, had it been, the answer might have been different. But as far as the question that was asked, the proper place to find the answer was given. Thanks for your concern, your helpful tips may be considered in the future, but for now give it a rest. And as I said yesterday, enough with the "what I HAVE to do's."

No, you're right Wallco. It couldn't possibly ever help anyone to make your rules even more clear than they are now, or to mention the alternate puckline in your daily post JUST IN CASE the lines confuse anyone that isn't as sharp at this as you are. Being helpful is such an incredibly bad thing to ever do...

Maybe you should hit yourself over the head with that pan...

[okbyme123]

No, you're right Wallco. It couldn't possibly ever help anyone to make your rules even more clear than they are now, or to mention the alternate puckline in your daily post JUST IN CASE the lines confuse anyone that isn't as sharp at this as you are. Being helpful is such an incredibly bad thing to ever do...

Maybe you should hit yourself over the head with that pan...

Tony ... Please stop the bickering. Wallco has put a lot of effort into this thread. Please don't think you can stop in here, with your "in his face" style and think you'll have any effect. If you don't like it ... Leave!
NO ONE that follows him wants to hear this from you!

I will ignore you going forward ... Wallco will likely do the same.

[cambertos]

Tony ... Please stop the bickering. Wallco has put a lot of effort into this thread. Please don't think you can stop in here, with your "in his face" style and think you'll have any effect. If you don't like it ... Leave!
NO ONE that follows him wants to hear this from you!

I will ignore you going forward ... Wallco will likely do the same.

Kiss ass

[skyscrapers]

This Coyotes bet will be our biggest of the year!! Let's get 'er done boys!!

[alexknyc]

This Coyotes bet will be our biggest of the year!! Let's get 'er done boys!!

It's a big bet all right.

And, as an added bonus, if we lose, we'll get to hear from Douchebag Kenny. Well, you all will... I've got him on my ignore list.

[skyscrapers]

Shit...hope the empty-netter doesn't fuk us and having to listen to doubchebag Kenny.

[remeedella]

gj wit ur coyotes bet

[skyscrapers]

Dammit

Got to give it to the Bruins though...12 straight wins.

[JonEJet]

I love the Bruins so much

[Greg242]

That's one of the most painful losses UGHHHH

[remeedella]

you cant blame him though, he has a system built and technically they were the right bets

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 201-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +0.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-6.59 units)

(3/22/14):
#199 Phoenix (+1½) v1 (C) - Loss
#204 Dallas (M/L) v2 (B) - Win
#205 St. Louis (M/L) v1 (B) - Loss
#209 Boston (M/L) v1 (A) - Win


v1 Fades
(A) 100-44
(B) 33-11
(C) 4-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/23/14):
#205 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/24/14
#210 Minnesota (+1½) @ Detroit v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)



Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 202-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +1.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-6.59 units)

(3/23/14):
#210 Minnesota (+1½) v1 (A) - Win


v1 Fades
(A) 101-44
(B) 33-11
(C) 4-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/24/14):
#205 L.A. Kings (+1½) @ Philadelphia v1 (C) (7:05 pm EST)
#211 Phoenix (+1½) @ N.Y. Rangers v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#212 Montreal (+1½) @ Boston v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)



Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[cambertos]

You have to consider, any system that has the potential to lose 67.89 units on a single bet is one you need to be committed to for the entire year.

If you come in half way/whenever, and cop that loss you're going to be pretty upset/broke.

Food for thought. I like this system & the record speaks for itself.

[Maxi_EV]

You have to consider, any system that has the potential to lose 67.89 units on a single bet is one you need to be committed to for the entire year.

If you come in half way/whenever, and cop that loss you're going to be pretty upset/broke.

Food for thought. I like this system & the record speaks for itself.

Right.

Just have to set your unit to the correct % of roll based on yout tolerance to risk.

[skyscrapers]

Just a heads up the LA Kings play has become a M/L play.

[shevabets]

Clean sweep

[Wallco99]

Just a heads up the LA Kings play has become a M/L play.

Thank you for the heads up. Didn't get home til second period, had +1 1/2 anyway. Fortunately, didn't need it.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 205-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +4.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(3/24/14):
#205 L.A. Kings (M/L) v1 (C) - Win
#211 Phoenix (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#212 Montreal (+1½) v1 (A) - Win


v1 Fades
(A) 103-44
(B) 33-11
(C) 5-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/25/14):
#213 L.A. Kings @ Washington (M/L) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)



Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[skyscrapers]

Thank you for the heads up. Didn't get home til second period, had +1 1/2 anyway. Fortunately, didn't need it.

You are very welcome sir. Gotta say you have a great system going on here.

[Andy3568]

Thank you for the heads up. Didn't get home til second period, had +1 1/2 anyway. Fortunately, didn't need it.

Same here. Not too fond of "C" bets with -315 odds. Thankfully it turned out OK.

[Wallco99]

I will be in Texas Thursday through Monday. Hopefully I will still be able to post plays. If for some reason plays are not posted by noon EDT, could Andy or someone take over that particular day. Please, not before noon. Thanks.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 205-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +4.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.15 units)

(3/25/14):
#213 Washington (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss


v1 Fades
(A) 103-45
(B) 33-11
(C) 5-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



There are no system plays for (3/26/14):
#213 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/27/14



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Andy3568]

I will be in Texas Thursday through Monday. Hopefully I will still be able to post plays. If for some reason plays are not posted by noon EDT, could Andy or someone take over that particular day. Please, not before noon. Thanks.

I will try to get them posted. The weekends may dicey since I'm not always in front of a computer, but I'll try to get them up if they're not up by noon.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 205-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +4.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.15 units)


v1 Fades
(A) 103-45
(B) 33-11
(C) 5-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/27/14):
#213 L.A. Kings @ Pittsburgh (M/L) v1 (B) (7:05 pm EST)
#214 Montreal @ Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#215 Vancouver @ Colorado (M/L) v1 (A) (9:05 pm EST)



Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Andy3568]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 206-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +5.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-4.60 units)

(3/27/14):
#213 Pittsburgh (M/L) v1 (B) – Loss
#214 Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) – Loss
#215 Colorado (M/L) v1 (A) – Win

v1 Fades
(A) 104-45
(B) 33-11
(C) 5-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/28/14):
#213 Resumes (C) on 3/29/14
#214 Resumes (B) on 3/29/14
#216 Pittsburgh (+1½) @ Columbus v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#217 Anaheim @ Edmonton (+1½) v2 (A) (9:35 pm EDT)



Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Greg242]

Andy are you posting because Wallco away today? If so thank you much appreciated!

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 206-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +5.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-4.60 units)

(3/27/14):
#213 Pittsburgh (M/L) v1 (B)
#214 Detroit (M/L) v1 (A)
#215 Colorado (M/L) v1 (A)


v1 Fades
(A) 104-46
(B) 33-12
(C) 5-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 42-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/28/14):
#213 Resumes v1 (C) on 3/29/14
#214 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/29/14
#216 Anaheim @ Edmonton (+1½) v2 (A) (9:35 pm EDT)
#217 Pittsburgh (+1½) @ Columbus v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)



Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Andy3568]

Andy are you posting because Wallco away today? If so thank you much appreciated!

Yes, in case he can't get them posted before the start of the earlier games.

[Wallco99]

*****

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 208-7 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +7.62 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-4.60 units)

(3/28/14):
#216 Edmonton (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#217 Pittsburgh (+1½) v2 (A) - Win


v1 Fades
(A) 104-46
(B) 33-12
(C) 5-6
Losses: VAN(-24.04 u), LAK(-26.60 u), PIT(-29.63 u), STL(-25.52 u), TOR(-13.89 u), BOS(-67.89)

v2 Plays
(A) 44-23
(B) 12-11
(C) 10-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (3/29/14):
#213 Winnipeg (+1½) @ L.A. Kings v1 (C) (10:05 pm EDT)
#214 Montreal @ Florida (+1½) v1 (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
#218 Detroit (+1½) @ Toronto v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#219 Tampa Bay @ Buffalo (+1½) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#220 Dallas (+1½) @ St. Louis v1 (A) (8:05 pm EDT)


** Denotes line not available at time of post.


Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Wallco99]

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