1. 12-06-18 02:57 PM #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    seeing videos of Holloway he still doesnt look right imo.... he has never been the sharpest tool in the shed but something about his speech and eyes just look off to me

    guy is gigantic for 145 and cutting all that weight plus he might train like a meathead in hawaii , im not sure hes all there right now.. Ortega isnt some huge hitter but its something to keep an eye on
    agree that he still does not seem right..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    agree that he still does not seem right..
    3rd episode of embedded when hes talking the first minute of the video... man his eyes just look wrong , he looks like hes suffering from extreme weight cutting or concussions again, he always had very corny lines but at the press conference he just kept stumbling his words and repeating the same things... i hope hes alright because man it seems like he has CTE and hes in his mid 20s
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    3rd episode of embedded when hes talking the first minute of the video... man his eyes just look wrong , he looks like hes suffering from extreme weight cutting or concussions again, he always had very corny lines but at the press conference he just kept stumbling his words and repeating the same things... i hope hes alright because man it seems like he has CTE and hes in his mid 20s
    yep, thought same thing while watching embedded...love Max, hopefully he is not a vegetable by the time he retires.
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  4. 12-06-18 03:29 PM #74
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    Do you think he is 100% and ready for the fight? I feel he should win here...
    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    yep, thought same thing while watching embedded...love Max, hopefully he is not a vegetable by the time he retires.
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  5. 12-06-18 03:54 PM #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Do you think he is 100% and ready for the fight? I feel he should win here...
    I hope so...maybe I'm misreading it but interesting how killex and I thought the same thing.
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  6. 12-06-18 04:09 PM #76
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    I think this will be like woodley vs darren till. Woodly slight favorite and won easy agaibst hyped till. Holloway slight favorite and wins easy against hyped ortega
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    Line has flipped Ortega now the fav at books like Pinnacle, Bovada, DSI, BetOnLine
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    Public slamming Ortega. I still think Holloway is a class above Ortega, so long as hes not injured. Holloway at even money is crazy
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  9. 12-06-18 04:44 PM #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Line has flipped Ortega now the fav at books like Pinnacle, Bovada, DSI, BetOnLine
    Good!!! Just like what happened to woodley
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidGoliath5003 View Post
    Public slamming Ortega. I still think Holloway is a class above Ortega, so long as hes not injured. Holloway at even money is crazy
    Sharps slamming Holloway
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  11. 12-06-18 05:30 PM #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Sharps slamming Holloway
    Im not buying the ortega hype at all
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    Great everybody on Holloway. Expecting a step-out 5 unit bet from Hugo on it aswell.

    We all know what happened the last time with Zombie.

    Warning!
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    End of video includes a free pick from Joe on Lawler vs. Askren. Lawler value according to Joe.


    Ben Askren vs Robbie Lawler odds - BestFightOdds
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    agree that he still does not seem right..
    Most Hawaiian locals are brain dead to start with. Holloway no different.. I'm sure he'll be good to go come fight time. If he's not he'll back out like he did before..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Great everybody on Holloway. Expecting a step-out 5 unit bet from Hugo on it aswell.

    We all know what happened the last time with Zombie.

    Warning!
    I guess it’ll be an Ortega KO at 4:59 of R5 then
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    I got down some action last night, $1130 between Max, OAM (still boring, don't like him), Katona, Lima, Nina, Thiago

    Will be making the drive to add more tomorrow afternoon. I have a four figure wager planned on a fight where I think there is a ton of value.
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  18. 12-07-18 11:22 AM #88
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    Ortega by sub for me.. Wicked neck choke late it the fight. Holloway taps.. Mark my words.. Ortega will be down on the cards and pull of the late win..
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    Holloway lock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    Holloway lock
    Nope Dem.. Only lock I see happening is around Holloway's neck..

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  21. 12-07-18 01:08 PM #91
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    both guys / ladies made weight
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    I feel that as well....
    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    I think this will be like woodley vs darren till. Woodly slight favorite and won easy agaibst hyped till. Holloway slight favorite and wins easy against hyped ortega
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    I don't

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    I feel that as well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Nope Dem.. Only lock I see happening is around Holloway's neck..

    That was a good comeback haha
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    #1) UFC Fighting
    Selection : M. Holloway 12/8/2018 9:10PM - (PST) Money Line +110 for Game

    #2) UFC Fighting
    Selection : A. Oliveira 12/8/2018 7:40PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

    #3) UFC Fighting
    Selection : M. Lopez 12/8/2018 3:40PM - (PST) Money Line +160 for Game

    Risking : 45.00 To Win : 507.82 USD

    Solid Odds....

    250.00 214.90 Fighting - 24006 V. Shevchenko (w) -385 for Game
    Fighting - 24010 T. Santos -210 for Game
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    Started Firing Bullets Already Leggooooooooo
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    : M. Holloway 12/8/2018 9:10PM - (PST) (round winner, fight winner, lets GO)Money Line +110 for Game

     : V. Shevchenko (w) 12/8/2018 8:40PM - (PST) (by murder)Money Line -320 for Game

     : T. Santos 12/8/2018 8:10PM - (PST) (seems to easy, usually where I get cracked) lol...Money Line -190 for Game

     : A. Oliveira 12/8/2018 7:40PM - (PST) (worth the + $ IMO) 29-28 or TKOMoney Line +125 for Game

     : E. Theodorou 12/8/2018 5:40PM - (PST) (rinse and repeat 30-27 decision)Money Line -120 for Game

     : O. Aubin-Mercier 12/8/2018 5:10PM - (PST) Money Line -120 for Game

    (Another tough fight.....hopefully he had a good camp...edges this and takes it to the GROUND

     : M. Lopez 12/8/2018 3:40PM - (PST) Money Line +160 for Game


    (close fight....+160 seems fine w me)....Lopez is tough and looking to avoid 3rd straight loss....
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  28. 12-07-18 02:36 PM #98
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    Got this in when the prop first came out.. I may still take the Sub prop as well at +225.. I do think if Ortega is to win it's gonna be ITD.. His boxing and power has improved so the knock out could still happen.. Submission finish is most likely out come though for Ortega.

    $100.00 $146.00 Pending 12/8/18 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Ortega wins inside distance +146* vs Not Ortega inside distance
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    Feel Dawadu will prob win a dec as well......counter punch his way.........
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    If my fight descriptions are not clear enough....refer to the guy that predicted Nguyen by first round TKO His crystal ball pegged that one lol...
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    Any opinions on the Matt Lopez/Brad Katona fight? I wanna take Lopez for a dog pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    3rd episode of embedded when hes talking the first minute of the video... man his eyes just look wrong , he looks like hes suffering from extreme weight cutting or concussions again, he always had very corny lines but at the press conference he just kept stumbling his words and repeating the same things... i hope hes alright because man it seems like he has CTE and hes in his mid 20s
    I just didn’t see it and after just watching the weigh-in I think Max looks great. It is Max or nothing for me.
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    like the +160 myself...
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    Any opinions on the Matt Lopez/Brad Katona fight? I wanna take Lopez for a dog pick.
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    UFC 231: Holloway vs. Ortega Picks:
    Aleksandar Rakic Round 1 TKO (Punches)
    Carlos Diego Ferreira Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
    Chad Laprise Round 1 TKO (Punches)
    Matthew Lopez Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
    Eryk Anders Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
    Jessica Eye Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
    Olivier Aubin-Mercier Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
    Claudia Gadelha Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
    Thiago Santos Round 2 TKO (Punches)
    Hakeem Dawodu Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
    Gunnar Nelson Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
    Valentina Shevchenko Split Decision (48-47 x2, 47-48)
    Max Holloway Unanimous Decision (49-46 x3)
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    UFC 231: Holloway vs. Ortega

    Fight Pass Prelims:

    Fight #1: Rakic vs. Clark
    Rakic+Clark Under 1.5 (+140) 1u
    Rakic Submission (+740) .5u

    Fight #2: Ferreira vs. Nelson (DEBUT)
    Ferreira ITD (+100) 1u

    Fight #3: Laprise vs. Lima
    Laprise ITD (-110) 1.1u to win 1u
    Laprise KO/TKO (+110) 1u
    Laprise Round 1 (+225) 1u

    Fight #4: Lopez vs. Katona
    Lopez (+220) 1u
    Lopez ITD (+475) .5u
    Lopez Submission (+900) .5u
    Lopez Round 1 (+1000) .5u

    Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

    Fight #5: Anders vs. Theodorou
    Anders Scorecards = No Action (-165) 3.3u to win 2u
    Anders ITD (+450) 1u
    Anders Round 1 (+700) .5u
    Anders Submission (+1750) .5u

    Hedge:
    Theodorou Decision (+160) 1u

    Fight #6: Eye vs. Chookagian
    Eye (+155) 1u
    Eye Decision (+220) 1u

    Fight #7: Aubin-Mercier vs. Burns
    Aubin-Mercier (-105) 2.63u to win 2.5u
    Aubin-Mercier Submission (+900) 1u

    Hedge:
    Burns ITD (+222) 1.5u

    Fight #8: Gadelha vs. Ansaroff
    Ansaroff (+260) 1u
    Ansaroff Round 3 (+2300) .5u

    Main Card:

    Fight #9: Santos vs. Manuwa
    Santos+Manuwa Won’t Start Round 2 (-110) 1.1u to win 1u
    Santos Round 2 (+478) 1u

    Hedge:
    Manuwa KO/TKO (+255) 1u

    Fight #10: Dawodu vs. Bochniak
    Dawodu -3.5 (+130) 1.5u
    Dawodu Decision (+164) 1u

    Hedge(s):
    Bochniak Scorecards = No Action (+215) 1.5u
    Bochniak ITD (+500) 1u

    Fight #11: Nelson vs. Oliveira
    Nelson (-120) 1.2u to win 1u
    Nelson+Oliveira Under 1.5 (+100) 1u
    Nelson ITD (+125) 2u
    Nelson Submission (+150) 1.5u
    Nelson Round 1 (+275) 1u
    Nelson Round 2 (+425) .5u

    Hedge(s):
    Oliveira KO/TKO (+245) 1u
    Oliveira Round 2 (+650) .5u

    Fight #12: Shevchenko vs. Jedrzejczyk
    Jedrzejczyk (+255) 2u
    Jedrzejczyk Decision (+350) .5u

    Hedge:
    Shevchenko KO/TKO (+522) 1u

    Fight #13: Holloway (C) vs. Ortega
    Holloway (-138) 6.88u to win 5u
    Holloway -5.5 (+150) 4u
    Holloway Unanimous Decision (+375) 2u
    Holloway KO/TKO (+460) 1u
    Holloway Round 3 (+1025) 1.5u
    Holloway Round 4 (+1425) .5u
    Holloway Round 5 (+2025) .5u
    Holloway+Ortega Draw (+8500) .25u

    Hedge(s):
    Ortega Submission (+242) 3u
    Ortega Round 3 (+900) 1u
    Ortega Round 5 (+1700) .5u
    Ortega Split/Majority Decision (+1600) .5u

    Straight Parlays:
    Rakic/Laprise (-147) 2.94u to win 2u
    Laprise/Anders (+118) 1u
    Santos/Dawodu (+119) 1u
    Anders/Dawodu (+135) 1u
    Dawodu/Nelson (+171) 1u

    Prop Parlays:
    Rakic -3.5/Laprise -3.5 (-112) 1.5u to win 1.33u
    Gadelha+Ansaroff GD/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk GD (-102) 2.04u to win 2u
    Laprise+Lima WGD/Nelson+Oliveira WGD (+120) 1u
    Laprise -3.5/Dawodu (+133) 1u
    Nelson/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk GD (+145) 1.5u
    Dawodu/Nelson/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk O4.5 (+293) .5u
    Rakic ITD/Ferreira+Nelson WGD/Laprise+Lima WGD (+323) .5u
    Dawodu Decision/Nelson+Oliveira U1.5 (+415) .75u
    Anders+Theodorou GD/Eye+Chookagian GD/Aubin-Mercier+Burns GD/Gadelha+Ansaroff GD/Dawodu+Bochniak GD (+461) .5u
    Aubin-Mercier/Gadelha Decision/Santos KO (+471) .5u
    Rakic+Clark WGD/Ferreira+Nelson WGD/Laprise+Lima WGD/Lopez+Katona WGD (+827) .5u
    Lopez/Anders+Theodorou GD/Eye (+845) .5u

    Full Card Props:
    Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+210) 1.25u
    Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+550) .5u
    Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+1595) .25u
    Over 10.5 Fights Go Distance (+6675) .25u
    Over 11.5 Fights Go Distance (+49400) .25u

    Multi-Event Parlays:
    Shore/Ferreira -3.5 (-120) 2.4u to win 2u
    Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Cyborg (-114) 2.28u to win 2u
    Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Font (+114) 1u
    Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Hooker (+124) 1u
    Santos/Cyborg (+130) 2.5u
    Dawodu/Dillashaw (+133) 2.5u
    Ferreira+Nelson WGD/A. Lee (+141) 1.5u
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