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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCalculator View Post
    30 lbs is 30 lbs. Obviously 30 lbs of muscle mass is more difficult to deal with. But I've grappled with guys + or - 30 lbs and it's a world of difference.
    I'm 6'5" 240 pounds and in good shape, I wrestled in high school, trained a few years as an adult in grappling here in LA years ago... I've been rag dolled by one or two guys around 190-200lbs (D1 wrestlers) with that wirey gorilla like strength combined with good wrestling skills, it was very disheartening.. Out weighed them by 40 pounds... Very humbling..

    Sure weight and size advantages matters but that's not always the case when the skill and farm boy strength advantages come into play for the smaller dude.. Cardio and speed factors also can be hard too to deal with as the bigger guy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCalculator View Post
    When was the last time you grappled against someone 30 lbs heavier than you cuz?
    Well, gaberz rolls with joey diaz every night, he's about 300 lbs heavier

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaughany View Post
    well, gaberz rolls with joey diaz every night, he's about 300 lbs heavier
    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I'm 6'5" 240 pounds and in good shape, I wrestled in high school, trained a few years as an adult in grappling here in LA years ago... I've been rag dolled by one or two guys around 190-200lbs (D1 wrestlers) with that wirey gorilla like strength combined with good wrestling skills, it was very disheartening.. Out weighed them by 40 pounds... Very humbling..
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    I've out grappled guys 50 lbs heavier than me a couple times. I was able to neutralize and win half the grappling matches against 2 national Judo champions -- primarily cause I was bigger stronger.

    The most humbled I've ever been is completely overpowered by a big dude on roids. Guys was literally 2X stronger than me and weighed about 30 lbs more and I couldn't do anything grappling wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCalculator View Post
    When was the last time you grappled against someone 30 lbs heavier than you cuz?
    lol are we pretending i'm a decorated wrestler a la rosholt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Well, gaberz rolls with joey diaz every night, he's about 300 lbs heavier
    Lmao.. I GOT THAT HIP ESCAPE DOWN DAWG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCalculator View Post
    I've out grappled guys 50 lbs heavier than me a couple times. I was able to neutralize and win half the grappling matches against 2 national Judo champions -- primarily cause I was bigger stronger.

    The most humbled I've ever been is completely overpowered by a big dude on roids. Guys was literally 2X stronger than me and weighed about 30 lbs more and I couldn't do anything grappling wise.
    So why don't you gear up?

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    Most comprehensive breakdown on Nate vs Te Huna yet.. 5 pages ..

    I'm done trying to cap this fight now.. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2105277-nate-marquardt-vs-james-te-huna-full-head-to-toe-breakdown


    Check the start time on this event fellas!!!!.. AM hours.. Fight Pass viewing only as well.. This sucks!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    So why don't you gear up?
    LOL

    Got nothing against the sauce -- but once you're on IMO there's no coming off. If I was competing or getting paid millions to do a movie I would strongly consider it. I see more liabilities than benefits at the moment. TRT in my 60s will probably be a GO.

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    Just threw a couple units on my boy neil magny at -258

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwil125 View Post
    Just threw a couple units on my boy neil magny at -258
    what do you know about his opponent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR33D View Post
    dont sleep on soa. while he may be out wrestled, he is a great striker, has great power and a concrete chin. his BJJ is also far superior to roscholts, i wouldnt be suprised to see a submission. only chance roscholt has of beating soa is to hold him down 3 rounds, soa is the more complete fighter.
    Contemplating if I want to play this action??? Jared is such an easy target to hit and Soa can hammer anyone unconscious if connecting solid....

    Gotta figure Jared isn't gonna waste any time as he will shoot or close the distance in a hurry.. Jared has decent chin strength too..

    Sad to say I think this is gonna be a pass and no play for me.. I think always go with the wrestler first but with a good striker with size and as experienced as Soa with that many fights under his belt he may just hit the target early on...

    Forget about a submission from the bottom from Soa GR33D by the way.. Not gonna happen with these big HW's..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    what do you know about his opponent?
    Word for word from a write up.... (copy and paste)

    Rodrigo Goiana de Lima (8-1-1) missed all of 2012, but had a very successful 2013 campaign, picking up two first-round submissions and the Jungle Fight welterweight title in the process. The victories marked the 22-year-old’s fifth and sixth submission wins, both coming by way of rear-naked choke.
    "Monstro" replaces the injured Claudio Henrque da Silva on around a month’s notice.
    de Lima is younger and seems to be a physical beast -- he’s got the tools to make an eventual impact in the division. I say "eventual" because he’s not ready yet. Magny’s striking is improving rapidly and "Monstro’s" takedown offense doesn’t seem sufficient to overcome Neil’s takedown defense. Add that to a massive length advantage for the American and it adds up to an unsuccessful debut for the Brazilian.
    It remains to be seen how Magny does against the Top 20. What we’ve seen so far, though, should be plenty to chew up "Monstro" at range -- decision win for Magny.
    Prediction: Magny via unanimous decision

    Odds are a little high for my liking at -250..... Should land for Magny though I would think..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    what do you know about his opponent?
    Only saw two videos on him there wasn't much footage I could find. He's replacing Claudio Da Silva and took the fight on just over three weeks notice. He's only 22 years old, but he has pro fights listed on his record from 2004 and 2006 which is really strange...? He has not faced great competition so far, and this is his first time fighting outside of Brazil. He looks like he is undersized for welterweight, and from the tape that I saw his opponents were smaller also. Magny should be able to keep him on the outside and defend his takedowns since he will be shooting from further away, Magny has a huge reach and is 6'2 or 6'3 this kid is 5'9 or 5'10 and his offensive wrestling was not set up well from the limited tape that I saw. Magny's Tdd has looked pretty good since he switched over to grudge, I don't see him getting neil down really. (I'm also somewhat biased since Ive ran into Magny a couple times before he was on tuf).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwil125 View Post
    Only saw two videos on him there wasn't much footage I could find. He's replacing Claudio Da Silva and took the fight on just over three weeks notice. He's only 22 years old, but he has pro fights listed on his record from 2004 and 2006 which is really strange...? He has not faced great competition so far, and this is his first time fighting outside of Brazil. He looks like he is undersized for welterweight, and from the tape that I saw his opponents were smaller also. Magny should be able to keep him on the outside and defend his takedowns since he will be shooting from further away, Magny has a huge reach and is 6'2 or 6'3 this kid is 5'9 or 5'10 and his offensive wrestling was not set up well from the limited tape that I saw. Magny's Tdd has looked pretty good since he switched over to grudge, I don't see him getting neil down really. (I'm also somewhat biased since Ive ran into Magny a couple times before he was on tuf).
    thanks, gonna download his jungle fight fights
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    I just want to know if anyone reading in is actually gonna wake up early enough to view this event live??????

    I'm placing the bets and crashing.. No chance of catching this one live... Wake up to results..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I just want to know if anyone reading in is actually gonna wake up early enough to view this event live??????

    I'm placing the bets and crashing.. No chance of catching this one live... Wake up to results..
    Being an East Coaster, I'm more looking at it as staying up all night Friday night to watch, starting at 2:30 am then crashing after 7:30 am on Saturday when it's over and then getting up Saturday sometime after noon and watching the San Antonio show that evening.

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    I'm staying up for the first couple. hopefully there's some first round subs or something and it moves it along. Starts at 1:30 for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwil125 View Post
    I'm staying up for the first couple. hopefully there's some first round subs or something and it moves it along. Starts at 1:30 for me
    Same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grabaka View Post
    Same here.
    I need to see that Hioki/do bronx fight though

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCalculator View Post
    I've out grappled guys 50 lbs heavier than me a couple times. I was able to neutralize and win half the grappling matches against 2 national Judo champions -- primarily cause I was bigger stronger.

    The most humbled I've ever been is completely overpowered by a big dude on roids. Guys was literally 2X stronger than me and weighed about 30 lbs more and I couldn't do anything grappling wise.
    BJJ > Judo

    Freestyle > Judo

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    Wiki-capping the weighins. Love ya jibster.

    There's no way I'm watching this card. This is f-cking terrible. 'Capping these fights is a chore.

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    Hey Md, new really good anime coming out:


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    Seen Kaiji? Some serious manly gambling going on right there. Akagi too.

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    I see Nate is trying to pad up his chin for this fight.. LOL... Maybe he can take a punch like Roy Nelson now..
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    Magny + Faber 10 units to win 5 units
    De Lima/Magny O2.5 -130 3.25 units to win 2.5 units
    Faber + Hioki/Oliveira GTD + Not Musoke by decision 2.5 units to win 2.05 units
    Palelei by decision +1500 0.5 units to win 7.5 units
    Rosholt by decision +375 0.5 units to win 1.875 units
    Palelei/Rosholt O1.5 +120 2 units to win 2.4 units
    Palelei/Rosholt GTD +280 1.5 units to win 4.2 units
    Matthews by decision +364 2 units to win 7.25 units
    Oliveira + Enz 2 units to win 2.7 units
    Oliveira + Borg 1.5 units to win 1.3 units
    Grujic/Indich GTD -150 2.25 units to win 1.5 units
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn View Post
    Being an East Coaster, I'm more looking at it as staying up all night Friday night to watch, starting at 2:30 am then crashing after 7:30 am on Saturday when it's over and then getting up Saturday sometime after noon and watching the San Antonio show that evening.
    Same here. I'm trying this new Vitamin Water energy drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Wiki-capping the weighins. Love ya jibster.

    There's no way I'm watching this card. This is f-cking terrible. 'Capping these fights is a chore.
    If I miss these fights, I won't be able to cap the competitors' next fights. It's so much easier to watch fights live than to go back and watch tape.

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    I dont care to watch nor cap it just from that weigh in pic, large on Te Huna. Nate looks like an idiot. And it is obvious that he is old and not roided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubber Guard View Post
    I dont care to watch nor cap it just from that weigh in pic, large on Te Huna. Nate looks like an idiot. And it is obvious that he is old and not roided.
    ^^^I put a little on Nate +170 as the underdog (1 unit) but I agree that this fight could go South for him, I'm not confident and probably should have made this a no play.. Temped by the odds as usual.... I'm thinking Nate isn't completely washed up just yet and Tuna isn't all that..

    I got some back up play taking the U +100 for (5 units) if Nate does fold in a hurry..

    I'm just hoping Nate doesn't run for 2 rounds in fear.. I think this one ends in a hurry either way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skel View Post
    If I miss these fights, I won't be able to cap the competitors' next fights. It's so much easier to watch fights live than to go back and watch tape.
    What is your idea of "watching tape"?

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    took villante and magny to start. hoping i can stay awake to watch 2 or 3 fights.

    ... this is a hilarious article.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/long...fight-night-43

    2 paragraphs devoted to how sexy he is.

    then

    "Long Island heartthrob Gian Villante (11-5) faces the toughest challenge of his young career this weekend in New Zealand when he goes up against fast-rising superstar Sean O'Connell"

    "Villante vs. O'Connell is an absolute must-watch, as both men could be fighting to remain on the UFC roster."


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    UFN 43 Risk $602.00

    Nate Marquardt (+185) vs James Te Huna $40.00 for $74.00
    Marquardt wins in round 1 (+700) $10.00 for $70.00
    Nate Marquardt/James Te Huna Over 1½ (-150) $45.00 for $30.00
    Jared Rosholt (-140) vs Soa Palelei $56.00 for $40.00
    Rosholt wins by 3 round decision (+455) $10.00 for $45.50
    Soa Palelei/Jared Rosholt Over 1½ (+120) $40.00 for $48.00
    Hatsu Hioki (+190) vs Charles Oliveira $40.00 for $76.00
    Mike Rhodes (+250) vs Robert Whittaker $25.00 for $62.50

    Jake Matthews (-130) vs Dashon Johnson $26.00 for $20.00
    Matthews wins by 3 round decision (+364) $10.00 for $36.40
    Roldan Sangcha-An (+130) vs Richie Vaculik $25.00 for $32.50
    Vik Grujik (-120) vs Chris Indich $30.00 for $25.00
    Vik Grujic/Chris Indich Over 2½ (-165) $165.00 for $100.00
    Magny wins by 3 round decision (+138) $15.00 for $20.70

    Daniel Hooker/Ian Entwhistle Under 1½ (+105) $20.00 for $21.00
    Sean O'Connell (+250) vs Gian Villante $20.00 for $50.00

    Parlay:
    Roland Sangcha-An (+132) + Grujic/Indich Over 2½ (-165) + Neil Magny (-285) $25.00 for $100.84

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