[Ron_Paul_2012]

Nate is now steroid free unless he is doping this fight until it is over. A steroid abuser like Nate doesn't get better when he is off of them.

I have 5 units on Nate so I hope he's juiced to the gills! I will be absolutely over the moon if his skin has a green tint to it at the weigh ins!

[bjpenn85]

I hope 5 units is like 5 dollars?

[JIBBBY]

I hope 5 units is like 5 dollars?

One unit is 1% of your betting bank roll.. If you have 1000 bucks sitting in a sportsbook account then 5 units of that would be 50 bucks...

[JIBBBY]

Smart money is on marquarts chin IMO, is def a glass chin or pass situation..

You could be right BJ.

I'm gonna roll the dice with Ron and try my luck on Nate as well as an underdog.. Too tempting not too... Small stuff on Nate... Oliveira probably 10 units I'll throw down as well...

Trying to figure out these fights on WSOF this weekend and also trying to comment on this event and it's fights as well... Information over load..

[Lick496]

One unit is 1% of your betting bank roll.. If you have 1000 bucks sitting in a sportsbook account then 5 units of that would be 50 bucks...

im pretty sure hes joking...

[JIBBBY]

im pretty sure hes joking...

I'm pretty sure you're right.. With his post count and his time since joining on this forum I should have known... Drrrrr.. Oh well.....

[bjpenn85]

LOL, it was a joke Jibby. I dont have any faith in nate at this point. That was my point, but thanks for the info.

[latarianmilton]

im very confident on james tehuna, no way he loses on the first ufc on new zealand against a guy coming off 3 straight kos.
i have always liked te huna, hes a really good striker very physically strong enough to not get held down by nate
marquardt wont see the third round

[Eworth1986]

Nate is better everywhere, only concern is his chin isn't holding up anymore and he's a 170'r moving up to 185 agains one of the hardest hitting 205 ers coming down to 185 .. If Nate can survive the initial ambush, it should be his fight to win . Te Huna doesn't have the Greatest of chins himself and Nate is a vicious finisher. I like Nate by sub in this one .

[Eworth1986]

Parlay of Marquardt, Swanson, Lamas, Hioki ( have a lean on Neto )

[bjpenn85]

4 fights in a parlay is a recipe for disaster long term. Try doing that every event and see what happens. 2 is difficult as it is. swanson and lamas maybe but hiok and then marquardt on top? good luck.

[JIBBBY]

^^^Yep 4 team parlays are tough to hit unless maybe they are all huge favorites, still hard to hit.... I won't go over a 3 teamer when betting real money.. I would have to feel really confident about all 3 fights if I do pull the trigger on a 3 teamer..

Although, not a bad idea to play the entire card on a parlay for really small and see if it's a magical night for you.. Hit that and go straight to the bank.. I try that every card for like 5 bucks... Haven't ran the table in while but it's possible..

[Lick496]

^^^Yep 4 team parlays are tough to hit unless maybe they are all huge favorites, still hard to hit.... I won't go over a 3 teamer when betting real money.. I would have to feel really confident about all 3 fights if I do pull the trigger on a 3 teamer..

Although, not a bad idea to play the entire card on a parlay for really small and see if it's a magical night for you.. Hit that and go straight to the bank.. I try that every card for like 5 bucks... Haven't ran the table in while but it's possible..

Ya definitely don't go over 3 teams but ya totally make sure to parlay the whole card.....

[mmaed]

im very confident on james tehuna, no way he loses on the first ufc on new zealand against a guy coming off 3 straight kos.
i have always liked te huna, hes a really good striker very physically strong enough to not get held down by nate
marquardt wont see the third round

Te huna is not a good striker. He is pretty rudimentary.

[JIBBBY]

Ya definitely don't go over 3 teams but ya totally make sure to parlay the whole card.....

The whole card parlay is for just pennies and if hits the payout could be over 1000 bucks.. It's way better odds then playing the lotto.. LOL..

No I don't like to go over 3 team parlay in MMA for large or normal betting amounts.. Just my deal anyways!!!.. A lucky punch, a bad refs decision, an in fight injury or DQ can blow parlays up in hurry.. Hitting 3 is hard enough even with all being favorites.....

[latarianmilton]

Te huna is not a good striker. He is pretty rudimentary.

what do you mean? i think he sets up his strikes good and has also big power, i guess he's not exactly saffiedine but he certainly has an advantage over nate if it stays standing up.

[mirinquads]

I hope 5 units is like 5 dollars?

Its air, sun

[MD]

what do you mean? i think he sets up his strikes good and has also big power, i guess he's not exactly saffiedine but he certainly has an advantage over nate if it stays standing up.

In terms of power and danger, sure. He could KO Nate at any moment early, but Nate is the much sharper, and more technically sound fighter in every area, even on the feet. Getting KO'd by Lombard isn't exactly a disaster, Saffiedine is a legitimate top 15 welterweight, and we all know the story with Ellenberger. He has huge holes that could easily lead to a monstrous KO from a guy with the size and power of Te Huna, but let's not pretend he's fighting Lyoto Machida here; Te Huna is basic and pretty unremarkable, from a technical standpoint.

[mirinquads]

Can we agree that Paleli is a much worse wrestler than Rosholt and he's most likely gonna get wrestlefucked unless he can somehow get on top and pound Rosholt out. I think this line is off

[Wilbo86]

Can we agree that Paleli is a much worse wrestler than Rosholt and he's most likely gonna get wrestlefucked unless he can somehow get on top and pound Rosholt out. I think this line is off

Absolutely. I'd hit the Rosholt by decision or the over if you expect him to get a stoppage, far juicier. I think Soa has about a minute or two to get a finish otherwise it'll won't be looking good. And i think he's tough enough to last 1.5 against a guy who isn't a finisher. If he getsput on his back those bets look even better.

One thing though, Palelei will come in 20-30 pounds heavier.

[TheCalculator]

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One thing though, Palelei will come in 20-30 pounds heavier.

10 lbs is a massive difference in wrestling. A strong 30 lbs could be enough to negate the technical prowess.

[Wilbo86]

10 lbs is a massive difference in wrestling. A strong 30 lbs could be enough to negate the technical prowess.

Where were you at the start of this thread?

[JIBBBY]

^^^^Depends if that 10 or 30 pound advantage is muscle or fat?

[latarianmilton]

In terms of power and danger, sure. He could KO Nate at any moment early, but Nate is the much sharper, and more technically sound fighter in every area, even on the feet. Getting KO'd by Lombard isn't exactly a disaster, Saffiedine is a legitimate top 15 welterweight, and we all know the story with Ellenberger. He has huge holes that could easily lead to a monstrous KO from a guy with the size and power of Te Huna, but let's not pretend he's fighting Lyoto Machida here; Te Huna is basic and pretty unremarkable, from a technical standpoint.

How do you see this fight going?

[JIBBBY]

In terms of power and danger, sure. He could KO Nate at any moment early, but Nate is the much sharper, and more technically sound fighter in every area, even on the feet. Getting KO'd by Lombard isn't exactly a disaster, Saffiedine is a legitimate top 15 welterweight, and we all know the story with Ellenberger. He has huge holes that could easily lead to a monstrous KO from a guy with the size and power of Te Huna, but let's not pretend he's fighting Lyoto Machida here; Te Huna is basic and pretty unremarkable, from a technical standpoint.

Good take on this fight MD..


Tuna can bang for sure but he looks slow to me... Nate should also have a speed and technique advantage with punches and KICKS.. Short vid..http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/video-w...ast-aaron-rosa

With all the posting concentrated on the winner or loser - I think the under rounds bet might be the best play for this fight.. Both dudes can strike effectively and both basically have suspect chins.. Nate can jump on guys in a hurry when hurt or sub out opponents also especially when dry.. If Tuna connects it's probably gonna be in the early rounds and then it's nighty night on the flip side...

U 1.5 is +135 on 5D now..


Hey, but if Nate is gun shy early and gets on his horse to protect his chin because of his recent KO losses then that could blow up my theory of the under landing.. Proceed with caution as always gents

[TheCalculator]

Where were you at the start of this thread?

I was in the desert smoking Padrons.

[TheCalculator]

^^^^Depends if that 10 or 30 pound advantage is muscle or fat?

30 lbs is 30 lbs. Obviously 30 lbs of muscle mass is more difficult to deal with. But I've grappled with guys + or - 30 lbs and it's a world of difference.

[gabe]

30 lbs is 30 lbs. Obviously 30 lbs of muscle mass is more difficult to deal with. But I've grappled with guys + or - 30 lbs and it's a world of difference.

It's a big difference between two talented wrestlers, but it's not that big an issue to outwrestle someone 30lbs larger who doesn't have great defensive wrestling skills

[Skel]

A look at Nate's twitter is a little concerning. He has more tweets recently about religion than fighting.

[Vaughany]

"Thy God granted thy neighbour thy power of thy steroids"

[gabe]

"Thy God granted thy neighbour thy power of thy steroids"

Human God Hormones

[Wilbo86]

Human God Hormones

Therapeutically Recharged Theologian? I doubt the local deities would permit it, but he might just go ahead and do it anyway.

[Vaughany]

Human God Hormones

haha

[TheCalculator]

It's a big difference between two talented wrestlers, but it's not that big an issue to outwrestle someone 30lbs larger who doesn't have great defensive wrestling skills

When was the last time you grappled against someone 30 lbs heavier than you cuz?

[JIBBBY]

A look at Nate's twitter is a little concerning. He has more tweets recently about religion than fighting.

http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/ufc-fig...o-middleweight

Not a bad thing in Nate's case? Like as in God is now protecting my weak arse chin, and it's only a mortal pagan evil man I am facing in the Octagon and God has my back... LOL..