1. 04-03-12 02:44 PM #1
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    Bellator 64

    MAIN CARD (MTV2)
    • Champ Ben Askren vs. Douglas Lima - for welterweight title
    • Alexandre Bezerra vs. Marlon Sandro - featherweight tourney semifinal
    • Travis Marx vs. Masakatsu Ueda - bantamweight tourney quarterfinal
    • Rodrigo Lima vs. Hiroshi Nakamura - bantamweight tourney quarterfinal

    PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike.com)
    • Chris Horodecki vs. Mike Richman
    • Matt Secor vs. Nordine Taleb
    • Rich Lictawa vs. Elias Theodorou
    • Kyle Prepolec vs. Lance Snow
    • Chad Laprise vs. Josh Taveirne
    • Jason Fischer vs. Taylor Solomon

    Can we get some resources on this page (videos of past fights, anything notable), especially for the bantamweight tourney fighters. This week is hectic for me so won't have a chance to research the fighters thoroughly.
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  2. 04-03-12 05:04 PM #2
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    http://www.mmabloodbath.net/2011/10/...ght-video.html - Ben Askren's Last fight
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Qy95FSNqA - Douglas Lima's last fight
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDWE3aPSa-w - Marlon Sandro's last fight
    Can't find anything but a highlight of Bezerra's last fight http://www.allthebestfights.com/beze...o-bellator-60/
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  3. 04-03-12 05:07 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crassus View Post
    Can't find anything but a highlight of Bezerra's last fight http://www.allthebestfights.com/beze...o-bellator-60/
    youtube brah!... http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...0l54l54l1l1l0.
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  4. 04-03-12 05:32 PM #4
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    Im more concerned with the other two main card fights...both bantamweight quarterfinals. Sandro/Popo and Askren/Lima will be tough to cap.
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  5. 04-03-12 07:52 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    youtube brah!... http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...0l54l54l1l1l0.
    haha but theres none of his fight against Kenny Foster
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    Im more concerned with the other two main card fights...both bantamweight quarterfinals. Sandro/Popo and Askren/Lima will be tough to cap.
    Need props for lima-askren!
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  7. 04-04-12 12:01 AM #7
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    Interesting matchups this weekend. I'm excited. I think there's some money to be made again here at Bellator
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  8. 04-04-12 01:01 AM #8
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    Trying to get in as much research tonight as I can before the lines are released. Looking into the two bantamweight fights now. Not a ton of resources available from Ueda's opponent Travis Marx, but alot of Ueda's fights are on Youtube. Ueda has wins over Eduardo Dantas, Royler Grace, and draws against Mizugaki and Galvao. Ueda is a scrappy grappler with fairly rudimentary standup. He was able to handle himself in the standup department against Dantas, landing a high volume of solid leg kicks, but was tagged a few times by the Bellator bantamweight standout in Dantas. Ueda certainly doesn't have the punching power to take anyone out, but does land a high volume of leg kicks. Having an effective strike in his arsenal like Shields's switch body kick is always useful . Where he really thrives is his grappling. Doesn't have very good wrestling, except for a single leg trip type takedown that is fairly effective and the occasional clinch throw. His top game is very good. He controls his opponent very well with head control, always threatening with a choke. He also is very good off his back, good sweeps. His style of fighting reminds me alot of Shinya Aoki.

    Still need to take a look at some fight videos from Travis Marx. What I do know is that he trains at Jackson's MMA, has a win over promising prospect Rad Martinez, and has very strong grappling like Ueda.

    Doesn't seem like either guy has the KO power to take the other out. This will be a fight taken place mostly on the ground, which will bode very well for Ueda upon further notice.
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  9. 04-04-12 07:36 AM #9
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    Travis Marx was on the Tapout show. I have the DVD, so I'll take a look at it tonight. You can probably find it online.
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    I can't find anything for Travis Marx besides his fight against Rad Martinez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    I can't find anything for Travis Marx besides his fight against Rad Martinez.
    http://bit.ly/HZdijK
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    lol
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  13. 04-04-12 03:13 PM #13
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    Video on mma core has been removed, torrent has no seeders. Not looking to watch 45 min documentary, just fight videos.
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    Douglas Lima +300... would be all over tht if I had funds in BM
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    All over Lima at +300
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    don't understand the nakamura line. rodrigo lima has 0 wins over opponents with winning records. nakamura should be the favorite.
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    ^I agree. I was expecting Lima to be in the +200's, but if you've seen footage of Lima, you woud understand why the books open the line like this. I will be waiting for line to move toward Lima's favorite and make a dog play. An asian fighter will win on Friday but I don't believe it will be Nakamura.
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  19. 04-05-12 05:57 AM #19
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    I skimmed through the Tapout episode. Not overly impressed with Marx. I think he's talented enough to make most fights competitive, but I don't think he presents major threats anywhere. His wrestling is good enough to score takedowns to always make the fight interesting. I think Ueda will win, but there is no way in hell I'll make a play at -455. Marx can keep this close enough to where a decision win isn't that unlikely.
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  20. 04-05-12 06:09 AM #20
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    how long ago is this?
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    Travis' dog!...

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  22. 04-05-12 07:36 AM #22
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    For some reason only matchup available for me is alvarez and aoki.

    All other bellator 64 matchup are now listed on bestfightodds.com, but not visible on my pinnaclesports.

    Do anyone now if there are any new policies? Closing the euromarket or something like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    For some reason only matchup available for me is alvarez and aoki.

    All other bellator 64 matchup are now listed on bestfightodds.com, but not visible on my pinnaclesports.

    Do anyone now if there are any new policies? Closing the euromarket or something like that?
    yeah cant see em either. Probably just a technical issue
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    probably hitting sandro and lima even more now (if possible). bookmaker limits are not going to stop me motherf!
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    Agree it looks like some value on Lima, but I still see Askren being able to take down Lima and controling a ground game. Lima uses a lot of kicks and I think Askren will use those fairly easily in his takedown game.

    Was hoping Askren would have been -250 or better. I'll be staying away from that fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Agree it looks like some value on Lima, but I still see Askren being able to take down Lima and controling a ground game. Lima uses a lot of kicks and I think Askren will use those fairly easily in his takedown game.

    Was hoping Askren would have been -250 or better. I'll be staying away from that fight.
    i think askren will be playing with fire if he does his usual routine of getting on top and laying on his opponent. lima has a serious guard game. i can totally see him catching askren in a triangle. once its locked in askren wont be able to pull that 'fro out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    i think askren will be playing with fire if he does his usual routine of getting on top and laying on his opponent. lima has a serious guard game. i can totally see him catching askren in a triangle. once its locked in askren wont be able to pull that 'fro out.
    No way Lima submits Askren unless he stuns him on the feet first. Askren is a BJJ whiz, it comes super naturally to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    i think askren will be playing with fire if he does his usual routine of getting on top and laying on his opponent. lima has a serious guard game.
    If that spot is playing with fire, it's still his best option, every other scenario is even worse for Askren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Travis' dog!...

    That's the Clint Eastwood of dogs right there
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    Lima is the real deal. Much more dangerous than Askeen's previous opponents. I have a tough time seeing Askren hold Lima down for 5 rounds. Lima may not be able to submit Askren off his back, but he will be able to get back to his feet and overwhelm Askren with strikes.
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    Is Pinnacle completely down for everybody else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    Lima is the real deal. Much more dangerous than Askeen's previous opponents. I have a tough time seeing Askren hold Lima down for 5 rounds. Lima may not be able to submit Askren off his back, but he will be able to get back to his feet and overwhelm Askren with strikes.
    I mean are we totally discounting that Askren could viably submit Lima?
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    yes he could viably submit lima, but it's unlikely, just like it's unlikely that lima will submit askren. This fight is a play on lima, or stay away.
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    Askren at -355? Get real son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Is Pinnacle completely down for everybody else?
    Looks down.
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