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Something doesn't seem right. You may want to write them a support ticket. Major markets such as the NFL are 2 BTC pregame and .5 BTC live. Looks like Stake and Betcoin are still using the same provider although the vig is still a tad better at Betcoin.

The stake site works much better ie FASTER than betcoin, not even close. Payouts at stake are instant, not even a 5 second delay.

[DroopyDog]

Super Bowl promo is nice. If your team is up 15 or more they payout instantly. I bet Falcons bettors would have loved that a few years ago

[littlekona]

any USA guys use yet? and can confirm no issues?

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Just a heads up. Stake does not count overtime/shootout for NHL over unders. This is huge when betting numbers like 4.5 & 6.5 as a 2-2 0r 3-3 tie after 60 minutes makes the UNDER a winner.

[DroopyDog]

Just a heads up. Stake does not count overtime/shootout for NHL over unders. This is huge when betting numbers like 4.5 & 6.5 as a 2-2 0r 3-3 tie after 60 minutes makes the UNDER a winner.

They have 2 different options. Scroll down further and they have totals including OT

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They have 2 different options. Scroll down further and they have totals including OT

Never saw this, thanks.

Obviously want 60 minute line for unders and full game inc O/T for overs.

[JaimeMiro]

No I don't use the chat on Stake.

When at Nitrogen the only reason I used chat was to ask the mods to grade a wager that was stale.

I haven't had any reason to ask mods @ Stake.com for assistance as the site has worked as it should, with very fast grading of wagers.

Did I mention my withdrawals have been instant?

Nitrogen needs a patient punter. There's chaos when waiting for grades, when trying to bet -- lines are posted late and removed way too early. Live betting is a mess. Really like the poker action

[JaimeMiro]

The stake site works much better ie FASTER than betcoin, not even close. Payouts at stake are instant, not even a 5 second delay.

It's close. Betcoin always within the hour, never had a withdrawal take more than 45mins. Stake is instant. However, they don't have System bets for accumulators

[DroopyDog]

It's close. Betcoin always within the hour, never had a withdrawal take more than 45mins. Stake is instant. However, they don't have System bets for accumulators

What is a system bet? Is that like a Round Robin ? You can do those on your own, manually

[JaimeMiro]

Thanks for the heads up, check ur inbox

[DroopyDog]

Why is it that none of these bitcoin books offer open parlays? Would be a welcomed addition IMO

[horja1]

How is their live betting?

[DroopyDog]

They have a lot of live betting, i go full degen live betting individual tennis games there

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Very happy with stake.com

If you sign up remember to tell 'em Raiders sent ya!

[DroopyDog]

Cash out option continues to haunt me. I cashed out a parlay I was sure was dead and took .003
to salvage something. Parlay goes on to win and would have paid .5 btc

im sharp.

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Cash out option continues to haunt me. I cashed out a parlay I was sure was dead and took .003
to salvage something. Parlay goes on to win and would have paid .5 btc

im sharp.

ouch

[raiders72001]

I still think Betcoin is better than Stake. First NCAA basketball game on Betcoin.

Betcoin
Winthrop -9.5 -109
SC Uptate +9.5 -108

Winthrop ML -476
SC +375

Stake
Withrop -9.5 -114
SC Upstate +9.5 -112

Winthrop -526
SC +350


Betcoin has more markets and more live betting. At Betcoin at a resolution of 1920 x 1080, you can see the ML, total and spread of every game on one page. At Stake, I'm only seeing the ML and have to click for each game. If you are looking at SBR Odds or DB on another computer, you have to see all the lines at one time.

[raiders72001]

Why is it that none of these bitcoin books offer open parlays? Would be a welcomed addition IMO

Agree and not one of them has open parlays.

[DroopyDog]

I still think Betcoin is better than Stake. First NCAA basketball game on Betcoin.

Betcoin
Winthrop -9.5 -109
SC Uptate +9.5 -108

Winthrop ML -476
SC +375

Stake
Withrop -9.5 -114
SC Upstate +9.5 -112

Winthrop -526
SC +350


Betcoin has more markets and more live betting. At Betcoin at a resolution of 1920 x 1080, you can see the ML, total and spread of every game on one page. At Stake, I'm only seeing the ML and have to click for each game. If you are looking at SBR Odds or DB on another computer, you have to see all the lines at one time.

One thing you have to factor in is Stakes VIP program which is by far the best I have seen

You get rakeback, you get a weekly bonus paid in cash based on your prior weeks volume, you get bonuses every level you advance through of VIP, there is a monthly bonus based on monthly volume, and I am probably forgetting something

It beyond makes up for the few cents difference.

[henningts]

I cant really say the bonus system is good.
I mean I am still at bottom vip level but when they send you a mail with "your bonus is waiting for you" and you think cool. Then you log in and see you got 50cent in bonus money then this is a joke.

I deposited only 500$ and made bets with but 50cent is just a waste of my time logging in.

[DroopyDog]

I cant really say the bonus system is good.
I mean I am still at bottom vip level but when they send you a mail with "your bonus is waiting for you" and you think cool. Then you log in and see you got 50cent in bonus money then this is a joke.

I deposited only 500$ and made bets with but 50cent is just a waste of my time logging in.

The bonuses are based on wager volume not deposited amount. Which means you get bonuses win or lose. And those email bonuses are in addition to all the other bonuses given:
-rake back
-weekly bonus
-monthly bonus
- vip level up bonuses
- daily reload bonuses


my weekly bonus last week was $300. No restrictions

get your volume up and you’ll be loving the bonuses

[raiders72001]

The bonuses are based on wager volume not deposited amount. Which means you get bonuses win or lose. And those email bonuses are in addition to all the other bonuses given:
-rake back
-weekly bonus
-monthly bonus
- vip level up bonuses
- daily reload bonuses


my weekly bonus last week was $300. No restrictions

get your volume up and you’ll be loving the bonuses

If you are getting $300, that must be casino play. Stake pays 15 minutes faster, otherwise Betcoin is the same or better in everything including bonuses. Betcoin also has tiered VIP programs for sports, poker and casino. Betcoin 100% casino bonus.

The difference is Stake's hold in some markets. Duke game hold is 5.94% (-116/-110) compared to Betcoin's 3.69% (-111/-105).

[henningts]

Stake is getting more and more annoying. in 3 of my last live bets when the game was finally swinging in my dirction suddenly the cashout option didnt work for me anymore, before that when I could cashout with a loss it worked. Contacted the support about it and they just sent draft replies and somehow even mocking me.

Thats it for me at this site, 3000$ wagered and all I got was 50cents in a bonus. Thats not what I was looking for.

[DroopyDog]

Cash outs are only available when the line you bet is still available thru live wagering, thats like that at all places with cash out option

If you bet +5.5 and your team is up 10 that spread is long gone and unable to cash out

[henningts]

Cash outs are only available when the line you bet is still available thru live wagering, thats like that at all places with cash out option

If you bet +5.5 and your team is up 10 that spread is long gone and unable to cash out

No shit! I am in this business for 20 years, I know all that. I bet ML, not spread. ML was available, cashout wasnt.

[DroopyDog]

So i guess its a conspiracy theory, they are watching your specific wagers, and reading your mind when you want to cash out and then taking it away? But I have to ask, why would they take it away intentionally when you are winning the game ? wouldnt they want you to take less profit potentially ?

Theres a bunch of different reasons cash out goes to unavailable during a live event

Let me know a book where the cashout option is available at all times during the game

[henningts]

So i guess its a conspiracy theory, they are watching your specific wagers, and reading your mind when you want to cash out and then taking it away? But I have to ask, why would they take it away intentionally when you are winning the game ? wouldnt they want you to take less profit potentially ?

Theres a bunch of different reasons cash out goes to unavailable during a live event

Let me know a book where the cashout option is available at all times during the game

Hey. I found a way to communicate with them on a good level now. Even reached bronze today.<br>But thanks for your offer, you send me via pm, I appreciate it! I cant reply as I dont have enough posts yet on this forum (not being allowed to reply to messages instead of just deny to start sending them is such a joke here).

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Hey. I found a way to communicate with them on a good level now. Even reached bronze today.
But thanks for your offer, you send me via pm, I appreciate it! I cant reply as I dont have enough posts yet on this forum (not being allowed to reply to messages instead of just deny to start sending them is such a joke here).

Reminder for posters. We do not allow asking/offering of referrals on the forum or via the PM system.

[henningts]

Reminder for posters. We do not allow asking/offering of referrals on the forum or via the PM system.

There wanst anything in this direction. He offered help with my problem by maybe talking to somebody at stake, not more not less. As you can see through my previous posts I am already a member there. You are judging people/situations way to fast in my opinion, thats not a good way to mod .

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There wanst anything in this direction. He offered help with my problem by maybe talking to somebody at stake, not more not less. As you can see through my previous posts I am already a member there. You are judging people/situations way to fast in my opinion, thats not a good way to mod .

I guess you wont be trying to poach me to work for you eh. But you are the one doing the assuming too fast here. SBR can see your PMs.

The message was mostly meant as a public service announcement for several people who have been trying to ignore that rule. So they can see other people are not just let go when they are not.

[henningts]

Ok I am officially done with stake.
For the 2nd time in 2 days I got different odds than shown on the site while placing a live bet. Bought a bet at 2,3 odds, the line did not change as there was a break, they give me 2,2 and after the bet was accepted it was still 2,3 on the site. Same happened to me 1 days earlier with even more false odds.
I immediatly contacted the support they said they will check it and get back to me. But first they wrote nonsense like.

"Can you please refresh the page, clear your cache and cookies and try again.
We will report this to our developers to check..
Sorry for inconvenience."

Wtf was I supposed to "Try again" . Later somebody else said:" Someone from our team will contact you later about this, do not worry. "

Obviously this never happened. Now I contacted them again and suddenly they request video proof to help me. Yeah like I make a video of every bet I make. I contacted them seconds after the bet was made to get it fixed, the bet didnt even start yet. They claim this NEVER happened before (for me twice in 2 days) and they wont do anything.

So far for being a trusted site with good support. Well this experiment was a waste of time, money and patience.

[henningts]

More ridiculous quotes from the stake support:

I already explained everything there is to it, guy who you talked to on the first conversation is our new trainee, he didn't ask right questions, I did and we went through them.


you did not explain this. so jovan AND milan are both trainees?




No, only Milan. Milan is our newest member.


but jovan wrote Someone from our team will contact you later about this, do not worry.


as milan "suddenly" went on lunch break




He is a human just like you and me, he went on a lunch break.


so what about jovans reply then?


he is not a trainee




What is the problem with his reply?


Someone from our team will contact you later about this, do not worry.


how many times do I have to paste this


did ANYBODY get back to me?


Once again, where is the issue in that? we are talking, right?




Nobody did, you contacted us again and I've reviewed your issue.




And now he is ignoring me not wanting to help and saying everything at the site works fine. So its my fault that when I contacted them IMMEDIATLY after getting fals odds the "trainee" didnt handle it correctly.
Dont use this site, they are ignorant, unfriendly and cashgrabing amateurs.

[DroopyDog]

Hennings I’m starting to think you probably have issues everywhere you play. Stake has some of the best support in the industry and absolutely the best for bitcoin books.

Is anyone live betting these e-fifa matches ? I saw Russian tennis started back up recently. And not table tennis lol

will be interesting to see once sports are back into full swing if anyone bets table tennis again

[raiders72001]

Hennings I’m starting to think you probably have issues everywhere you play. Stake has some of the best support in the industry and absolutely the best for bitcoin books.

Is anyone live betting these e-fifa matches ? I saw Russian tennis started back up recently. And not table tennis lol

will be interesting to see once sports are back into full swing if anyone bets table tennis again

We always seem to disagree on Stake/Betcoin but Betcoin has the best support. They have live chat 24/7, support tickets and player chat. I don't see live chat for Stake right now. Betcoin has more e and SRL live too.

[themike78]

We always seem to disagree on Stake/Betcoin but Betcoin has the best support. They have live chat 24/7, support tickets and player chat. I don't see live chat for Stake right now. Betcoin has more e and SRL live too.

And 1 more reason betcoin is better is that they take U.S customers. No worries if you win big and they decide to confiscate your winnings.