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    Quote Originally Posted by Halflucky View Post
    kyc?
    never.

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    Does anyone use Betcoin.ag ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOWLSZN View Post
    Does anyone use Betcoin.ag ?
    Yes. Nitrogen and Betcoin are my two favorite books.

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    How are their odds, do they copy PIN and refuse all the bets when PIN is moving, like is the case with FairLay?

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    Definitely not a pinnacle clone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limited View Post
    How are their odds, do they copy PIN and refuse all the bets when PIN is moving, like is the case with FairLay?
    Stake and Betcoin may be using the same lines. The lines are the same or Betcoin is a couple cents better each side depending on the sport. Betcoin also has more markets per game.

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    Cant correlate parlay nfl spread and totals, no alternate lines is a no go for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halflucky View Post
    Cant correlate parlay nfl spread and totals, no alternate lines is a no go for me
    Look at the Bears/Cowboys game and click where it says "+90" (I didn't post a link but it shows where to go) to see alternate lines. They even have alts on quarters and 3 way quarters. Stake has "+27" and Betcoin has "+90". Looks like alts are same price and pregame is better at Betcoin.

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    Raiders how are the withdrawals on betcoin? Same as nitrogen? What about live betting and teasers? Ability to parlay alternate lines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    Raiders how are the withdrawals on betcoin? Same as nitrogen? What about live betting and teasers? Ability to parlay alternate lines?
    Withdrawal times compare with Nitrogen, you can parlay alts but not in the same game, no teasers, live betting is one of the best.

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    now talk about betcoin limits and their shady af past , raiders...

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    Hey Droopy, loving the bonus, thanks for it, enjoying stake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    now talk about betcoin limits and their shady af past , raiders...
    You aren't going to have any problems getting paid. I almost always use a VPN. That said, with any of the anonymous bitcoin books it's best not to use a VPN. Stay anonymous with the exception of IP address. I haven't ever had a problem with the VPN other than being locked out of my Nitrogen account twice since 2013 and both times it was fixed fast.
    Last edited by raiders72001; 12-05-19 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    You aren't going to have any problems getting paid. I almost always use a VPN. That said, with any of the anonymous bitcoin books it's best not to use a VPN. Stay anonymous with the exception of IP address. I haven't ever had a problem with the VPN other than being locked out of my Nitrogen account twice since 2013 and both times it was fixed fast.
    any suggestions how to get back on nitrogen if youve forgotten your login details?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    any suggestions how to get back on nitrogen if youve forgotten your login details?
    support@nitrogensports.eu

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    support@nitrogensports.eu
    tried that a while back didnt help me imma try again though may get a different answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    tried that a while back didnt help me imma try again though may get a different answer
    Nitrogen has a banner here at SBR. Maybe SBR can help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Nitrogen has a banner here at SBR. Maybe SBR can help you out.
    Twitter they monitor PM's and typically respond in 24 hours or less

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Nitrogen has a banner here at SBR. Maybe SBR can help you out.
    ok thanks raiders

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    now talk about betcoin limits and their shady af past , raiders...
    Please enlighten me on the shady af past.

    I'm considering depositing there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    Please enlighten me on the shady af past.

    I'm considering depositing there.
    Not directed towards me but there was once a problem with a casino player involving the player, software provider Betsoft and Betcoin. This happened a few years ago. I don't know who was right and who was wrong but a settlement was made between the parties. There was a huge smear campaign that followed.

    Player's statement
    I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.
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    I'm not recommending casino play from any site where play can't be verified with the exception of blackjack at bitcoin books that are provably fair. Blackjack is provably fair at both Nitrogen and Betcoin. The same is true with dice.

    You would need the serverseed from the book and your clientseed.
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    Thanks

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    Nitro is solid book.. send 1k btc get 1k btc.. 30 min payout average for me.. Teaser lack but teaser for suckers.. Live betting could use boost.. Stake a no no for USA players.. You will be free rolled.. Surprise this thread still up.. OP is clearly taking shot at book.. Strongly encourage others to as well..

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    Nah you literally signed up or made new forum name for this post. Need some history here, pal !

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    Primdice was affectionately fun for the short while I played. You'll have to understand that these sites want to become something and they need us. Right now we're the advocates. Essentially Christopher Columbus. 5dimes nor nitro has given me a bonus after losing nearly 6 btc In the last year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStooges View Post
    Primdice was affectionately fun for the short while I played. You'll have to understand that these sites want to become something and they need us. Right now we're the advocates. Essentially Christopher Columbus. 5dimes nor nitro has given me a bonus after losing nearly 6 btc In the last year or so.
    What was your primedice name?

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    Hey Raiders, check out the margins at Stake

    Eagles -8.5 -104
    Giants + 8.5 -108

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halflucky View Post
    kyc?
    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    never.
    That is a major red flag for me.

    Any book that openly says that they will never do KYC are either very naive or are actively trying to attract criminal money.

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    Im not the book , optional

    I was speaking about my experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    Im not the book , optional

    I was speaking about my experience
    You sounded very sure saying "never" in that case.

    Did they tell you that or say it somewhere? Why do you think they will never do KYC?


    Also you and Arie seem very keen to promote this book, and a bunch of new people arriving all keen on it too.

    Do they offer incentives to post positive things about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    You sounded very sure saying "never" in that case.

    Did they tell you that or say it somewhere? Why do you think they will never do KYC?


    Also you and Arie seem very keen to promote this book, and a bunch of new people arriving all keen on it too.

    Do they offer incentives to post positive things about them?
    I was referring to me never being asked for documents. Never been asked on Nitro either. And nope, I dont receive benefits for saying nice things. Would you be so curious if I was talking about an advertiser ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post

    I was referring to me never being asked for documents. Never been asked on Nitro either. And nope, I dont receive benefits for saying nice things. Would you be so curious if I was talking about an advertiser ?
    Then it would be a known quantity and would not seem so unusual.

    Anyway, carry on, maybe you are just keen but the activity looks like an organized effort to promote them with the new signups to forum as well as you and Arie all passionate about mentioning them in so many threads now. Unless they are an approved advertiser, books don't get to promote themselves through incentived posts here.
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    They are known, just not here... They are under the same company as Primedice , probably the biggest BTC casino online since 2013

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    We need to wait for the opinion of Mr. Lonnie55. We can trust him, I think he will not miss such a sweet line as this book. Regular fantastic reviews from two people cause more distrust than truth.

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