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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    Hennings I’m starting to think you probably have issues everywhere you play. Stake has some of the best support in the industry and absolutely the best for bitcoin books.
    Is anyone live betting these e-fifa matches ? I saw Russian tennis started back up recently. And not table tennis lol
    Will be interesting to see once sports are back into full swing if anyone bets table tennis again
    Haha, you are so funny.. sales guy in forums like those guys in shopping centers. Buy stake.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    And 1 more reason betcoin is better is that they take U.S customers. No worries if you win big and they decide to confiscate your winnings.
    Mike, you sure?




    All these sites must state that for their worthless curacao license, none really abide by it. I know that of all the crypto sites, Stake is the last one who would ever try use that to confiscate funds.

    Betcoin is ok, but their site is truly awful

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    We always seem to disagree on Stake/Betcoin but Betcoin has the best support. They have live chat 24/7, support tickets and player chat. I don't see live chat for Stake right now. Betcoin has more e and SRL live too.
    Not sure where you were looking but they have all of that, and i know you love contests/promos... Stake is giving away a Lambo, or the cash equivalent

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    Bet105's interface/offering is clearly the best in the bitcoin space. That said, I'm not sure how they are for guys who bet real money. I'm a $100-200/game bettor. Also not sure on how they treat winners. That was one positive about Nitrogen -- seems like they didn't care how much anyone was winning. BUT Nitrogen completely sucks ass now with their new interface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    Mike78 where u at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    We always seem to disagree on Stake/Betcoin but Betcoin has the best support. They have live chat 24/7, support tickets and player chat. I don't see live chat for Stake right now. Betcoin has more e and SRL live too.
    raiders72001 it seems you have very good opinion about betcoin.
    I believe that they have the best live between bitcoin only books.
    I read in another topic that they are reliable about payments.
    But what about the limits?
    For how long they will let you bet if you are a winning player?
    What is the max bet for live basketball handicap for lower leagues? (I saw yesterday at cloudbet there was a max bet something like 80-90 euros)?
    If they have limited you what is the max bet after the limit?(1-2euros).
    Thank you in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saga View Post
    raiders72001 it seems you have very good opinion about betcoin.
    I believe that they have the best live between bitcoin only books.
    I read in another topic that they are reliable about payments.
    But what about the limits?
    For how long they will let you bet if you are a winning player?
    What is the max bet for live basketball handicap for lower leagues? (I saw yesterday at cloudbet there was a max bet something like 80-90 euros)?
    If they have limited you what is the max bet after the limit?(1-2euros).
    Thank you in advance
    Hey saga, I wish that I had better answers for the above questions but all of that seems to be on an individual basis. Send them a support ticket to try and get higher limits. My theory with limits is take all you can get before getting limited. I do agree that their live betting is the best and payouts are fast, 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Hey saga, I wish that I had better answers for the above questions but all of that seems to be on an individual basis. Send them a support ticket to try and get higher limits. My theory with limits is take all you can get before getting limited. I do agree that their live betting is the best and payouts are fast, 15 minutes.
    Thank for your response.
    Did you have any problem with withdrawals because of using VPN?
    As far as i know i am not from a restricted country but I can't join them otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    Raiders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saga View Post
    Thank for your response.
    Did you have any problem with withdrawals because of using VPN?
    As far as i know i am not from a restricted country but I can't join them otherwise.
    I use a VPN but as the rules posted by Droopy Dog, don't sign up if you're from a restricted country. It seems some are grandfathered in. I joined in 2013. If you aren't from a restricted country, they're a great book. It's nice to keep balances in bitcoin and to be able to make deposits using multiple cryptocurrencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    I use a VPN but as the rules posted by Droopy Dog, don't sign up if you're from a restricted country. It seems some are grandfathered in. I joined in 2013. If you aren't from a restricted country, they're a great book. It's nice to keep balances in bitcoin and to be able to make deposits using multiple cryptocurrencies.
    So you are telling that you are a winning player and you have the same account from 2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    I use a VPN but as the rules posted by Droopy Dog, don't sign up if you're from a restricted country. It seems some are grandfathered in. I joined in 2013. If you aren't from a restricted country, they're a great book. It's nice to keep balances in bitcoin and to be able to make deposits using multiple cryptocurrencies.
    I always liked betcoin but am done with them now after seeing what that guy DoubleRedDragon went through with cloudbet which seems similar as they did once allow USA. Agent accounts VPN is fine but not sure using VPN for betcoin is good idea... Optional can SBR contact Betcoin for verification of the no USA policy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saga View Post
    So you are telling that you are a winning player and you have the same account from 2013?
    I trade bitcoin for a living and just dabble with sports. I'm not playing any of the small markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post

    I always liked betcoin but am done with them now after seeing what that guy DoubleRedDragon went through with cloudbet which seems similar as they did once allow USA. Agent accounts VPN is fine but not sure using VPN for betcoin is good idea... Optional can SBR contact Betcoin for verification of the no USA policy?
    SBR is dealing with a complaint right now involving a VPN user from a restricted country playing there (among other alleged activities).

    They say that they take their restricted country list seriously in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    SBR is dealing with a complaint right now involving a VPN user from a restricted country playing there (among other alleged activities).

    They say that they take their restricted country list seriously in that case.
    Yes,if you are using vpn from a restricted country probably they are right but where is the problem if you are using vpn from a non restricted country and you can provide the documents that they will ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saga View Post

    Yes,if you are using vpn from a restricted country probably they are right but where is the problem if you are using vpn from a non restricted country and you can provide the documents that they will ask?
    They have said that they do not mind VPN usage in general.

    They also say they do not ask for documents unless a reason comes up to be suspicious of an account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They have said that they do not mind VPN usage in general.

    They also say they do not ask for documents unless a reason comes up to be suspicious of an account.
    Ok,thank you for your help.
    I suppose they are safe.
    I just wonder how fast they limit a winning account.
    Thank you and raiders for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    Mike78 where u at?
    This must be new. I cashed out there a few months ago with no problem. I haven't played there since. If that's the case them I'm done playing there. I play by the rules. No need to risk not getting paid like that weirdo did with cloudbet. Im pretty sure betcoin banned U.S.A years ago but changed their mind. Looks like they went back to original desicion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    This must be new. I cashed out there a few months ago with no problem. I haven't played there since. If that's the case them I'm done playing there. I play by the rules. No need to risk not getting paid like that weirdo did with cloudbet. Im pretty sure betcoin banned U.S.A years ago but changed their mind. Looks like they went back to original desicion.
    They did make a change in their stance on accepting US players. They received a new license. You may want to send a support ticket stating when you joined to make sure it's ok. Keep the proof in case of problems.

    Betcoin is not in the habit of asking for KYC. I've seen very little of it.
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    My point is, its lip service so they can have their silly Curacao license... all books that use that same odds provider must state they dont accept US.

    Only one book has tried to use the stipulation against players (cloudbet) and they are pure garbage anyways

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    So the bitcoin books that accept US customers are Fairlay & Nitrogen? any others?

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    Fairlay has never "accepted" players from the US, im not sure why kona always says they do. But once again, its lip service, all these books allow it, they turn a blind eye to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnythunder View Post
    So the bitcoin books that accept US customers are Fairlay & Nitrogen? any others?
    I'm sure there are others but they are probably garbage books that are not trustworthy. People bash nitrogen but I feel safe with my money there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    I'm sure there are others but they are probably garbage books that are not trustworthy. People bash nitrogen but I feel safe with my money there.
    Pretty obvious im not a nitro fan, but people bash them for good reason. Random account freezes after winning, slow grading, awful sportsbook software, and while 1-2 hours is not long for a payout, in the crypto book category its pretty slow compared to others.

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    The 'safe' books don't always work out though. The limits on live events are a joke. Why allow live better if you can only bet 2mbtc to win 4? That's a waste of everyone's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killawookie View Post
    The 'safe' books don't always work out though. The limits on live events are a joke. Why allow live better if you can only bet 2mbtc to win 4? That's a waste of everyone's time.
    Yeah and not only terrible limits, Terrible live offerings as well

    stake has way more lines for each event and they cover far more leagues/sports

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    I never gave this book a 2nd look. Not sure why. Saw a post from Droopydog and DM'd him asking some questions and he was good enough to throw a bonus my way because he hit a VIP level.

    I've been using a VPM the entire time. They never hit me up for docs. The bonus rules are EASILY the best I've ever seen. Withdrawals are instant (have withdrawn twice after getting reckless and hitting betting the bonus thanks to OP). Pretty amazing

    Well worth checking out. Ask the OP for his username and sign up under him. No idea if there's much benefit - but he's a mensch and nothing wrong with having them know he brought in a few players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killawookie View Post
    The 'safe' books don't always work out though. The limits on live events are a joke. Why allow live better if you can only bet 2mbtc to win 4? That's a waste of everyone's time.
    Which book are you saying offers 2 mBTC max?

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    Not sure how common this is at other books (I've never seen it) - but it's pretty sweet that they grade overs for NHL 1st period and games in real time

    I had the Oilers/Sens over 6.5 Sunday and it went over in the first period. Was credited a couple minutes after the score was 5-2. Obviously no "if it doesn't go 55 min it's a push" stupid rule for us squares who like the bet overs.

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