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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    A lot of people are complaining on the Fairlay "Public Chat"... no one can place any wagers. Wonderful.

    Did everyone leave on a vacation for the holiday? Unreal
    Definitely not the place for betting close to kickoff or in-game. Their MM is very cautious about leaving lines up. Def. annoying, but somewhat understandable if you don't have a large staff to monitor lines.

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    Why dont Fairlay add 1x rollover on all deposits.
    p.s LKona i dont bet using btc,im from Europe. If i start 1 day ill chech FL.

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    Hello, I have sent them e-mail and asked about my case one more time, let's see if they reply, will update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo34 View Post
    Definitely not the place for betting close to kickoff or in-game. Their MM is very cautious about leaving lines up. Def. annoying, but somewhat understandable if you don't have a large staff to monitor lines.
    You definitely need to do some adjusting.... different from a traditional sportsbook... that's for sure.

    I've already noticed one game was actually off the board an hour before kickoff... because they had the wrong time programmed in. They did put it back on the board with only 20 minutes remaining before kickoff.

    I've noticed they pulled games 5 minutes before kickoff.... even though their timer had sufficient time remaining.

    They put up around 90% of the 2nd half lines.... so quite possibly... you may not be able to wager your game.

    Basically... I just tell myself to place the wager 10 minutes before the game starts. Usually works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    You definitely need to do some adjusting.... different from a traditional sportsbook... that's for sure.

    I've already noticed one game was actually off the board an hour before kickoff... because they had the wrong time programmed in. They did put it back on the board with only 20 minutes remaining before kickoff.

    I've noticed they pulled games 5 minutes before kickoff.... even though their timer had sufficient time remaining.

    They put up around 90% of the 2nd half lines.... so quite possibly... you may not be able to wager your game.

    Basically... I just tell myself to place the wager 10 minutes before the game starts. Usually works for me.
    Same with horses depending on market maker one closes races 10 min prior to race the other one is better usually at 1 min mark closes race...once you get accustomed its fine esp with the juicy odds they have in many cases!

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    whats the typical amount you can get down on nba/ncaa games ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDog View Post
    whats the typical amount you can get down on nba/ncaa games ?
    NBA - Anywhere between $4,000 - $12,000

    NCAA- Anywhere between $2,000 - $5,000

    Depends on the volume/market.


    I'm sure after the wager is accepted... market will adjust... and you can wager again... at different juice.

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    What's the minimum to deposit?

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    I have no answer... they are ignoring me at all my 1.2btc STUCK, NO SUPPORT, DO NOT PLAY HERE, THEY HAVE STOLEN MY DEPOSIT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMobile View Post
    What's the minimum to deposit?
    Just read it on their website. Minimum deposit is at least 1 mBTC which is currently estimated around $9.88

    When you sign up JMobile they will give you like 6 different deposit addresses to send to. PICK THE mBTC SegWit address and naturally make sure you send BTC only. Reason why you send it to the SegWit address... they don't charge you any deposit fees.

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    As I said I can't do anything because they are totally ignoring my e-mails, no reply at all FOR ME TOTAL SCAM SITE, NO LICENSE, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS THEY IGNORING MAILS, STEALING $10k+, nothing more to say, STAY AWAY!!

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    Line on Oklahoma -7 VS TCU is pretty interesting regarding juice...


    TCU +7 +100
    Oklahoma -7 -102.6

    This is the lowest vig ever. Crazy.

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    Remember: if something is ""too good to be true" it's very risky... if You win big they will probably start same thing as with me. RED FLAG, BOOKIE IS TOTALLY UNTRUSTED!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by betg View Post
    Remember: if something is ""too good to be true" it's very risky... if You win big they will probably start same thing as with me. RED FLAG, BOOKIE IS TOTALLY UNTRUSTED!!
    Were you even net profitable? Show us a screenshot of your profile page with your PnL. Or do you not have "screenshot" technology? LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo34 View Post
    Were you even net profitable? Show us a screenshot of your profile page with your PnL. Or do you not have "screenshot" technology? LOL.
    I have ... I was bad bettor and was down, but who cares? I have been trying to play these "too good to be true" bets and finally they decided to "take me down".

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    Quote Originally Posted by betg View Post
    As I said I can't do anything because they are totally ignoring my e-mails, no reply at all FOR ME TOTAL SCAM SITE, NO LICENSE, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS THEY IGNORING MAILS, STEALING $10k+, nothing more to say, STAY AWAY!!
    agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by betg View Post
    I have ... I was bad bettor and was down, but who cares? I have been trying to play these "too good to be true" bets and finally they decided to "take me down".
    LOL...just out of blue they "took you down" for no reason right? Now lets see how much you deposited and did not wager with just to withdrawal...what a shame to move around so much btc and yet have no camera for a simple KYC request..Tis tis

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    What I don't understand is why Fairlay lets this drag on. If you suspect someone is using your site for purposes other than wagering, close their account, pay their balance and be done with them. What possible reason could they give for keeping his funds unless they can argue that that the funds really don't belong to him. But I haven't seen a response from Fairlay. Bad business practice. I doubt they survive long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    LOL...just out of blue they "took you down" for no reason right? Now lets see how much you deposited and did not wager with just to withdrawal...what a shame to move around so much btc and yet have no camera for a simple KYC request..Tis tis
    They do not reply to my mails from few months... I can get camera but can't verify "source of the funds" which I have on bitcoin address - can You do this? please do.... then I know it's possible. Oh wait... they can say now make movie with your boss who says I pay it to him, it's legal... if they want your money you cannot do anything believe me. Play play play and comeback here to cry cry cry soon. I'm pretty sure you work for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betg View Post
    They do not reply to my mails from few months... I can get camera but can't verify "source of the funds" which I have on bitcoin address - can You do this? please do.... then I know it's possible. Oh wait... they can say now make movie with your boss who says I pay it to him, it's legal... if they want your money you cannot do anything believe me. Play play play and comeback here to cry cry cry soon. I'm pretty sure you work for them.
    betg...we all feel for you but your situation came about because of your actions and your non actions alone...you are the only one ever to have been asked for a KYC from Fairlay due to your Mixing Scheme and then you do not send them the docs they ask for 2+ months then refuse the video they ask when the docs you sent they say may be fraudulent...All these where reasonable requests so now its over and you have only yourself to blame

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    All I'm trying to do is give other posters another place to wager at.... that saves in the long run. I don't think anyone should be paying -110 or -108 etc. Everyone should be with a book that's very low Vig. I think the best book out there that converts BTC to USD is Heritage Sports... on their -105 package.

    But... this Fairlay is a real special book. I got knocked out of the Pinnacle era years back... and was very disappointed. For some reason... I made the most gains with Pinnacle. Call it whatever you want... psychological??? I have no clue. But, I haven't lost yet at Fairlay. I love it! Every player needs an advantage... they need luck.... I mean... we wager to win right? lol

    Ok... so we had one poster who had an issue with a PO from Fairlay. If you're uneasy with a large bankroll there.... then ask for a PO every night... or every 2-3 days. Don't leave your funds in there.

    Everyone should at least log into Fairlay... check it out... look at the lines... look at the low vig... and try it out.

    Been doing this for 20+ years... you need to stay with a book that you feel comfortable with.... you need all the advantages. Yes, I'm superstitious at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    ... you need to stay with a book that you feel comfortable with....
    great line.

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    fairlay is the only book i use now . so far fast deposit instant withrawls good lines and no problems i will report a issuse if i ever get 1 but so far so good Fairlay B or A-

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    B,A- for unlicensed book which are holding 10k$+ for 6 months and making excuse by excuse to take them to the pocket? good luck, hope they won't steal your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betg View Post
    B,A- for unlicensed book which are holding 10k$+ for 6 months and making excuse by excuse to take them to the pocket? good luck, hope they won't steal your money.
    betg - Just wondering... what Bitcoin book are you using now?

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    none for now until I can get my money back so I can start arb bets again - and yes You need many books to do arbitrage betting.

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    Are there an issue with payouts? Requested one two hours ago and hasn't even showed in blockchain. Usually it has been instant from the click of the button

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklissa View Post
    Are there an issue with payouts? Requested one two hours ago and hasn't even showed in blockchain. Usually it has been instant from the click of the button
    The issue is with the bitcoin network being overloaded.

    Many people have been reporting long delays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    The issue is with the bitcoin network being overloaded.


    Many people have been reporting long delays.
    Thanks Optional. So you think it's normal if I don't even see the transaction in blockchain? My gut tells me that the transaction hasn't even been sent yet because at least it would show in blockchain as a unconfirmed transaction
    Last edited by franklissa; 12-08-17 at 03:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklissa View Post

    Thanks Optional. So you think it's normal if I don't even see the transaction in blockchain? My gut tells me that the transaction hasn't even been sent yet because at least it would show in blockchain as a unconfirmed transaction
    It's tough to be sure. But you may be right.

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    Dear Players as I am telling You this service is like ticking bomb - STAY AWAY! one day I AM SURE they will take all the money and disappear, I hope it's not too late, just take Your money out ASAP, good luck! They've already taked my 1,2btc in white gloves.
    @SBR I have sent them e-mail with explanation about source of my funds but they don't reply for over a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklissa View Post
    Thanks Optional. So you think it's normal if I don't even see the transaction in blockchain? My gut tells me that the transaction hasn't even been sent yet because at least it would show in blockchain as a unconfirmed transaction
    Check the troll support box for updates...I see that due to BTC network congestion ( and it is BAD) withdrawals are delayed /returned to account...has yours been returned franklissa...

    Alt coins withdrawals are still working fine per Support Box..One option might be to use their exchange section and swap BTC to another coin and then cash out...I have never tried but may be option if BTC network issues continue
    Last edited by littlekona; 12-08-17 at 07:23 AM.

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    Mine was returned littlekona. Damn this is pretty aggravating. I don't understand what this has to do with a cash out being processed. If the network is congested that just means that we are going to expect long delays with transactions being confirmed. It has nothing to do with a transaction being sent. Just requested another payout and it was returned 10 min later. I am now worried
    Last edited by franklissa; 12-08-17 at 07:53 AM.

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    You should all withdraw money ASAP! as You see they aren't transparency with withdrawals - if they are instant they should be as pending instantly until confirmed and not cancelled. I HOPE FOR YOU GUYS, MAKE WITHDRAWAL ASAP! You will thank me soon for warning.

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    Miner fees have spiked quite high.

    Could they be waiting for those to settle down possibly?

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